SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Just now, Bluepeter9 said: They did the hard graft - the team benefited from there 60 min - Miller was instrumental in our opening goal and niko supplied some much needed class - there's an honest discussion! But negativity - seems to equal 'honesty' but it's not - anyway I enjoyed the win that they contributed to Miller had a part to play in one goal. That was pretty much it from a Rangers number 9. Awful. Just like his goals & assists stats for the season. Some much needed class? That's great if there's an end result. What end result was there from his play today? This is just another back McCoist type argument from you. You detest any form of criticism even though the ones you back actually hinder our performances. But even for you this is impressively stupid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,793 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Kenny has been great for us and like him, but he should not IMO be starting games. I think he could still do a job for 20 - 30 if we were needing a goal, but at 37 it is surely no slur on his ability for most fans to be wondering why he is starting every game. Nico is now far too slow and really should not be even in the squad IMO, again this is not being unkind to him just reality for him now. The last thing is that they are not picking themselves, Pedro is doing that, so any anger needs to be directed at him, not the players surely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bluepeter9 said: Yes I thought they did Miller had 3-4 opportunities to score but didn't but at least got in those positions - some of Nikon play was class - but it was not their best games but certainly would not call for them to be dropped based on today - also as it's a team game they started we won well - they get cudos for that ???????????????????????????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Finished, Finished. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T.G 10,773 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Bench players at most. I think Miller offers more but the first decent attacking player we sign will see him dropped. Kranjcar is filling the void when Windass isn't picked or until we sign a left sided midfielder. Personally I'd like to see Niko released but MW made sure we signed a slow as fuck 30+ year old on a 2 year deal. He really was a fucking idiot. There were times when the Dundee players were simply walking past him with the ball. Unacceptable. If Pedro picks him for the old firm game then he has no defence if we lose the game. 451 please. Midfield of Candeias, Dorrans, Pena, Jack and Windass. Alfredo up top. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza2258 478 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Would punt the two of them in January. We carried Niko today and Miller had far too many unforced errors and it seems to be getting worse. Stupid playing Niko wide though. Very stupid. Poss do a job in front of Dorrans and Jack, but we have others. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOPLITE 221 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 They are holding us back time they were dropped and used as squad players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the brown brogue 1,909 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Past couple of games especially its been clear that Kranjcar has been blowing out his arse after 20 minutes. But once hes sat down for 15 minutes at half time when he comes out for the 2nd half he looks like he genuinely struggles to move at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Don't get the sentiments on here sometimes, Miller and Nico would be the first two names on my team sheet every week without fail. I'd have Nico on the left and Kenny on the right........... side of the bench. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewaj3 1,446 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Lol this place cracks me up. Love to have someone to hate. We won 4-1 and the whole team played well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoatbridgeBear 7,113 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Both are done, they slow us down too much, but shove yer personal insults about them up yer holes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,469 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Kranjcar has not had one above average game for us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, stewaj3 said: Lol this place cracks me up. Love to have someone to hate. We won 4-1 and the whole team played well. In your opinion. Most seem to think otherwise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcf 34,152 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Yeah , I think it's a year too many for both . The sad thing is , a lot of us have been saying this for a few weeks now and nothing's changed . Just hope PC sees it too before it ends up costing him . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,435 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 The solution to Miller was to get rid when his contract was up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,461 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 46 minutes ago, Bluepeter9 said: Oh goody - came home after a 4-1 win but would have been dissapointed if we didn't have some negative threads Kenny Miller isn't good enough. I've been saying it for a year. I think that people are waking up to it is a positive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,461 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 35 minutes ago, Bluepeter9 said: They did the hard graft - the team benefited from there 60 min - Miller was instrumental in our opening goal and niko supplied some much needed class - there's an honest discussion! But negativity - seems to equal 'honesty' but it's not - anyway I enjoyed the win that they contributed to at the thought of Niko doing hard graft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Miller should start the old firm game, he's the only one who knows what it's all about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,461 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 17 minutes ago, stewaj3 said: Lol this place cracks me up. Love to have someone to hate. We won 4-1 and the whole team played well. We can't be happy to win, and also have an honest footballing discussion? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser1041 9,088 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 1 hour ago, theclothmonster said: Can't speak for anyone else but I've been saying Miller is a hindrance to the team since MW first season in charge, the fact that he is still in our starting eleven is nothing short of a disgrace. He was one of the few that turned up consistently in that time frame Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,469 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said: Miller should start the old firm game, he's the only one who knows what it's all about. Aye, for both teams. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrup1690 1,064 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 2 hours ago, BridgeIsBlue said: Absolutely terrible the pair of them. Never again must they play for us. This Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,461 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 1 minute ago, kaiser1041 said: He was one of the few that turned up consistently in that time frame Has he though? His goalscoring record as a Rangers CF in his second stint is shite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Let's show a little bit more respect to Miller & Niko, now we may be all of the same opinion - they shouldn't be getting the amount of game time they are getting however... They do not pick the team. Miller has been a great servant to our club, and niko was an excellent player - this is not debatable. If anything get pissed off at Pedro, it's not the players fault. All to often on here you get Miller being called this and that through no fault of his own. Yeah, maybe he shouldn't be playing but he's been picked by someone and he's trying his best for the jersey. Anyway, just my thoughts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theclothmonster 1,707 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, kaiser1041 said: He was one of the few that turned up consistently in that time frame He scored important goals but his general play was a hindrance slowing us down constantly and giving the ball away. The fact that he was one of our better players last season speaks volumes more about MW and "best in the business" recruitment than it does about Miller. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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