Harveydp 100 Posted September 22, 2017 Author Share Posted September 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, westenclosure2008 said: This isn't the place for this kind of debate but you are talking utter shite. Lived in the USA for 10 years. 3 of which I was dating an ER nurse in Kings Daughters Medical centre in Kentucky. Anything you've read in your socialist magazine is easily counteracted with real life facts of how it works. I've had American health insurance it cost exactly $23 per month. It covered me upto $5million. But hey.. you'll know better than me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyaleastend 3,260 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 1 minute ago, westenclosure2008 said: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/06/23/heres-how-much-the-average-american-spends-on-health-care.html Have a read then let me know if you still believe in privatising one of the most admired health systems in the world. is this guy serious? the nhs is a fucking disaster, the problem with national ownership is that no one really give a flying fuck and it becomes a gravy train I'd privatise it tomorrow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveydp 100 Posted September 22, 2017 Author Share Posted September 22, 2017 1 minute ago, westenclosure2008 said: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/06/23/heres-how-much-the-average-american-spends-on-health-care.html Have a read then let me know if you still believe in privatising one of the most admired health systems in the world. ADMIRED? HAHAHA Yeah admired by those who hopefully never have to use it. The NHS is a disgrace. The standard of care is a disgrace. The waiting times are a disgrace. Again I hate to use real life examples but at least 2 of my family members and 1 of my girlfriends found themselves in a corridor for over ten hours. This country has apalling health care. Just because it is "free" doesn't make it good. The NHS is abysmal. A death sentence for anything more than basic first aid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westenclosure2008 794 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Just now, Loyaleastend said: is this guy serious? the nhs is a fucking disaster, the problem with national ownership is that no one really give a flying fuck and it becomes a gravy train I'd privatise it tomorrow. Not sure why I'm defending the NHS in the Bears Den but fuck it I will defend it. I think you are getting your economics wrong it's usually privatisation that = gravy train. Is the drive thru busy tonight mate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyaleastend 3,260 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 I was going to listen to your point of view but then you threw out an insult get fucked ya prick Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westenclosure2008 794 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Harveydp said: ADMIRED? HAHAHA Yeah admired by those who hopefully never have to use it. The NHS is a disgrace. The standard of care is a disgrace. The waiting times are a disgrace. Again I hate to use real life examples but at least 2 of my family members and 1 of my girlfriends found themselves in a corridor for over ten hours. This country has apalling health care. Just because it is "free" doesn't make it good. The NHS is abysmal. A death sentence for anything more than basic first aid. Sorry for your experience mate but it is admired and seen as a benchmark around the world. I've nothing but praise for our NHS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westenclosure2008 794 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Loyaleastend said: I was going to listen to your point of view but then you threw out an insult get fucked ya prick I was just wondering if it was busy or not. No harm meant. Well is it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyaleastend 3,260 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Oh you! You almost sound like you have a personality but I see you're from Lanarkshire.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveydp 100 Posted September 22, 2017 Author Share Posted September 22, 2017 Just now, westenclosure2008 said: Sorry for your experience mate but it is admired and seen as a benchmark around the world. I've nothing but praise for our NHS. Have you ha first hand experience of it? I can think of many examples of specific people I know closely who've been treatwd absolutely shockingly. Perhaps abolishing it is drastic but fundamental change has to happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyaleastend 3,260 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Just now, Harveydp said: Have you ha first hand experience of it? I can think of many examples of specific people I know closely who've been treatwd absolutely shockingly. Perhaps abolishing it is drastic but fundamental change has to happen. Privatise it, make it profit driven, i have never met anyone in all my travels who gave a fuck about or admired the world famous socialist shit stained NHS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyaleastend 3,260 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 i was about to like my own post above, but harvey beat me to it good on you pal socialism is a fucking lie, the politics of tramps Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveydp 100 Posted September 22, 2017 Author Share Posted September 22, 2017 Just now, Loyaleastend said: Privatise it, make it profit driven, i have never met anyone in all my travels who gave a fuck about or admired the world famous socialist shit stained NHS Admired ffs. I might be a Mason but that doesn't mean I'm one for conspiracy theories HOWEVER.. I genuinely think if you're elderly and go into the NHS system they pretend to treat you, if they do it's too an appaling standard. They don't give a fuck about the elderly. The NHS is a death sentence that wastes monumental amounts of money on unnecessary treatments for unfounded diagnosis's. It is a socialist shit hole. Filed wirh immigrants who literally know nothing other than what their checklist tells them Disband the thing. Privatise it. See the difference in care when folk have REAL standards to meet. Where people have a choice of hospital to go to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveydp 100 Posted September 22, 2017 Author Share Posted September 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Loyaleastend said: i was about to like my own post above, but harvey beat me to it good on you pal socialism is a fucking lie, the politics of tramps No truer words said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyaleastend 3,260 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 harvey, you're bang on pal I salute ya Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westenclosure2008 794 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, Harveydp said: Admired ffs. I might be a Mason but that doesn't mean I'm one for conspiracy theories HOWEVER.. I genuinely think if you're elderly and go into the NHS system they pretend to treat you, if they do it's too an appaling standard. They don't give a fuck about the elderly. The NHS is a death sentence that wastes monumental amounts of money on unnecessary treatments for unfounded diagnosis's. It is a socialist shit hole. Filed wirh immigrants who literally know nothing other than what their checklist tells them Disband the thing. Privatise it. See the difference in care when folk have REAL standards to meet. Where people have a choice of hospital to go to. I honestly can't even begin to comprehend the shite you are spouting. You're a fucking moron. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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westenclosure2008 794 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 18 minutes ago, Loyaleastend said: Privatise it, make it profit driven, i have never met anyone in all my travels who gave a fuck about or admired the world famous socialist shit stained NHS I was referring to health professionals not folk you meet at the annual McD's convention. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyaleastend 3,260 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Just now, westenclosure2008 said: I was referring to health professionals not folk you meet at the annual McD's convention. Ad Hominem is the last refuge of the pape you're a shallow man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westenclosure2008 794 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Loyaleastend said: Ad Hominem is the last refuge of the pape you're a shallow man. I give in.. your argument about socialism and immigrants plus how making it profitable would improve it has me beaten and I lashed out. I'm sorry. Now I've given in what are the chances of a free Big Mac? ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveydp 100 Posted September 22, 2017 Author Share Posted September 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, westenclosure2008 said: I honestly can't even begin to comprehend the shite you are spouting. You're a fucking moron. How about.. Be specific. What exactly did I say that was "shite" And you'd do well to watch your mouth you peasant class pant sniffing cunt. Don't you forget I'm the one who satisfies your cum guzzler of a mother most nights. She's a dogger and her son's a cock goblin. Weird family Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,721 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Get in. 40 minutes left of my break make it a good one boys 2-1 harvy so far Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveydp 100 Posted September 22, 2017 Author Share Posted September 22, 2017 1 minute ago, born a blue nose said: Get in. 40 minutes left of my break make it a good one boys 2-1 harvy so far The socialist pant sniffer is too busy wanking with his grandmas false teeth. Poor old dear has canker sores with the amount of the perverts jizz sees inadvertently swallowed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueoysterbar 19,544 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 2 hours ago, westenclosure2008 said: We took them in because as a nation we are good people that helps its fellow men, always has and always will. That is something to be proud of. The true British way. Around about the same time there was a tottie famine in Scotland caused by the same fucking thing, blight or whatever it was. People in Glasgow and Edinburgh donated so much money to the Highlanders and Lowland farmers affected that not many people had to up and leave the place. Contrast that with what the irish did for their own people. Which was round about fuck all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveydp 100 Posted September 22, 2017 Author Share Posted September 22, 2017 Just now, theblueoysterbar said: Around about the same time there was a tottie famine in Scotland caused by the same fucking thing, blight or whatever it was. People in Glasgow and Edinburgh donated so much money to the Highlanders affected that not many people had to up and leave the place. Contrast that with what the irish did for their own people. Which was round about fuck all. Fuck them and their monuments. Why don't they go home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,721 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 It's a knockout Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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