RDB14 2,760 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Saying he must go considering the gap in quality and injuries is ridiculous. It's equally ridiculous to treat him like a king if we win. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid2103 285 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Ger_onimo said: The excuse is already there for a defeat, half our defence is missing. This won't be the game which costs him his job, whatever happens. All of which is irrelevant as we're going to smash the smelly fuckers. This is why I think we should've kept a hold of Hill. Experienced, hard working player who has been in this situation before. Would be a lot more confident if it were someone like him and Cardoso starting as a back 2. But aye bring it on, the young lad will be a hero by 2 o'clock today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow argyle 1,093 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 14 minutes ago, Prso's headband said: A draw should only be celebrated against them if it's at the Piggery with 10 men I get the point (no pun intended). But i recall a game at ibrox. Gough scored late equaliser 2.2 draw. And there was no celebration? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC16 226 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Lets see what pedro is made of.up against it, he needs to get tactics spot on to stop them playing. If he can come up with a gameplan and a victory, will be a hero for time being. Cumon pedro this is it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the old guard 2,323 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 32 minutes ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said: 18 months ago we outplayed a sellick team with Gordon, Lustig, Tierney, Boyata, Lego, McGregor, Roberts, Griffiths and Rogic in it. Our team had Keirnan, Halliday et al in it. They get a high calibre manager in and they go miles ahead. The fundamental solution for us is to get the best possible coach in that dugout. He is nowhere near the standard required Sadly, I tend to agree, although I'm praying for a turning point, and hopefully its today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 ffs . Let's try and win the game in our hearts and heads before we are trying to get our Manager sacked If it doesn't go well . I'm certain , there will be hundreds calling for his head Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, RDB14 said: Saying he must go considering the gap in quality and injuries is ridiculous. It's equally ridiculous to treat him like a king if we win. You are spot on. The kingmakers sit in the boardroom and it's ultimately down to them. If Pedro can positively show what he can do on limited resources compared to the THEM, then he has a chance of the board digging deeper to bring in better quality. We can only speculate as to what the board think in their aspirations and judge them on their actions. Up to now, it's for second place, but if Pedro can show an inkling of inspiration, get a cup and or run them closer in the league, then who knows. Until then, no matter the manager, we play for second spot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,465 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 If we win he gets treated like a god till the next loss. If we lose or draw he'll be hounded by the minority for being no use. Far too many short minded supporters these days. Give him till end of the season, if there's improvement then he stays, if there isn't he goes. Pretty simple. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,016 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 A win would be so much more than just 3 points. It would be a massive confidence boost for us and could be a platform for us to go on and put together a serious run of wins. It would also be interesting to see how they react to losing, especially given they play Anderlecht next week. Two losses in a row and the bottle could crash. Potentially a season changing game today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim beam 2,188 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 If we get beat today or god forbid another pumping then the calls for his head will get louder.he will get to the end of the season and if we finish third or are miles behind them then another building job commences. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger_onimo 20,488 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, Amato said: A win would be so much more than just 3 points. It would be a massive confidence boost for us and could be a platform for us to go on and put together a serious run of wins. It would also be interesting to see how they react to losing, especially given they play Anderlecht next week. Two losses in a row and the bottle could crash. Potentially a season changing game today. This is the vital part for me. The impact of a defeat on them will be far greater than the impact of a win on us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMax399 3,698 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 I hope for a performance above the level we have previously delivered and a win. The guys need to be up for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GersInCanada 7,775 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Win, lose or draw Pedro must keep his job. We are just at the start of a long term project that the board have bought into. We need stability and that means Pedro. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, GersInCanada said: Win, lose or draw Pedro must keep his job. We are just at the start of a long term project that the board have bought into. We need stability and that means Pedro. Nonsense I scratch my head in disbelief at posts like that - results don't matter because it's a long term project? Give over so we put up with 3 years of shite just because? what I will say is that even if we get beat 6-1 today Pedro won't go and he won't be sacked. What we want to happen or what we think should happen has zero baring on the decisions made my the clowns in our boardroom Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 33 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: ffs . Let's try and win the game in our hearts and heads before we are trying to get our Manager sacked If it doesn't go well . I'm certain , there will be hundreds calling for his head TBH, there is more chance of it not going well, but for me it's the manner of any defeat that will say it all for me. If the scum are on their game we have little chance of victory and IMO should we expect anything else? Looking at our back line alone gives me the fear. The most talented among them is a 19 year old and we can forget Tav in any defensive sense. Hodson at best average and another a CD who has less than imposed himself. It has the makings of all going disaterously wrong, or indeed, to a man, they can become the heroes of the hour. Let's hope it's the latter. Many are facing the scum for the first time. A daunting task, so I look for the few elder statesmen so to speak, in our team to lead by example. I am no lover of Tav, but he has been over the course a few times. Today, he is one who for the first time, must take responsibility and be held accountable if he fails in his obligations. We know his defensive frailties, but I cannot excuse his attitude and failure to take responsibility and be disciplined in his play and sticking to the task at hand. Too many give him an easy ride for his attacking forays. Today is not a day for that, so he either shows he has the character to be a Ranger, or he can fuck off. If we were at full strength with all players available, I'd rather not start with Miller, but under the circumstances we now find ourselves his experience will be invaluable. He will give it his all. Whether it's good enough is another matter. With all these injuries, the God's conspire against. If we go down, then let it be fighting and we can still hold our heads high and it will at least show we have the spirit if nothing else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the old guard 2,323 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 45 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: It matters not the venue, their quality is too great, but you are right in one way, show no fear and get right in about them. We were never going to mount a challenge, as the level of investment reflects that. We need players of at least equivilent quality. Where is our Broon, Griffiths, Dembele, Sinclair, Armstrong, Roberts? That's right, we can't even afford one of them. To make a serious challenge, any manager needs the tools to do it and those tools to take this title will cost plenty money. Our board go forward in hope rather than expectation, so realistically it should be no different for us. This was always about second place, but being football, we can pull it off with a one off result and no reason why today cannot be it. Take your point, although pena cost more than Griffiths and armstrong, and roughly the same as sinclair, but team for team they have spent probably three or four times more, although the same can be said when we knocked them out the scottish Cup 16 months ago so it can be done, my point is we must match/compete with them and must show improvement from Pedro's previous old firm games, if not questions must and will be asked, personally I would prefer us to build a team from the back and be harder to beat but unfortunately we are far to easy to score against and not just against them, it's every game, if we don't improve with 44000 bears at ibrox then he's left himself wide open. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,248 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Unless it's an absolute hiding, 7-0, he's going nowhere. Best get that's out your minds right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jintybear 8,536 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Blue Avenger said: It matters not the venue, their quality is too great, but you are right in one way, show no fear and get right in about them. We were never going to mount a challenge, as the level of investment reflects that. We need players of at least equivilent quality. Where is our Broon, Griffiths, Dembele, Sinclair, Armstrong, Roberts? That's right, we can't even afford one of them. To make a serious challenge, any manager needs the tools to do it and those tools to take this title will cost plenty money. Our board go forward in hope rather than expectation, so realistically it should be no different for us. This was always about second place, but being football, we can pull it off with a one off result and no reason why today cannot be it. I'm sorry but that's a pile of pish. Their quality is not great and Europe has shown this. The problem is that teams fear them the way they used to fear us. They may be slightly better pish than us at present but they are far from great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMexican 204 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 We are so inconsistent that I wouldn't be surprised to see us win then drop points in the next game. We aren't winning the league this season but we can set a marker today with a strong passionate performance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,177 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 34 minutes ago, GersInCanada said: Win, lose or draw Pedro must keep his job. We are just at the start of a long term project that the board have bought into. We need stability and that means Pedro. Stability? At what level? Being a team that fights for second every year? Dog shite Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Heart and Hand 8,949 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 fuck up, well smash them the day, mon the mighty Rangers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,435 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Last season the excuse was he was trying to figure out which players were capable so he played a normal game rather than try to keep it tight, and we got pumped. This game already has the defensive injuries as an excuse. I'm not saying the injuries aren't a legitimate issue but he has to get everything else right, formation, tactics, the team need to match them in midfield, we need to show up and make it hard for them. If we get pumped and show very little then the defensive issues excuse won't stand up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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