Dave King

[The Beast 9,210]

21 minutes ago, bornabear said:

King promised many riches, which has been proved to be a lie. Who would have thought Mr King (AKA The Messiah) would have lied to us ?

Yes, we want rid of him, but, like his promises, that is a pipedream. He took over the Club on lies and innuendo and having secured that, he set up his equivalent of Hitler's brownshirts, club1872. This gives him all the power he needs and unless there is a mutiny in club1872, he is here forever. or, unless he can make money out of selling our Club for lots and lots of money. His ultimate goal is to retrieve the 20m he once invested many, many years ago. 

Proven liar in telling lies shocker.

I don't know why anyone is surprised. 

[Bears r us 30,791]

24 minutes ago, five stars said:

Whats the alternative?, is there's someone else wanting to take control and willing to invest heavily?

Or are you suggesting the board just fucks off with no viable replacement?

While you are probably right about an alternative as far as us ordinary fans go, it is the board room members and major shareholders of our club who have the responsibility to look after Rangers and make them competitive again. They told us they would do that. If and it looks like they cannot fulfill that bluster and bravado then they should be using every working hour searching the world for others who can.

They are imposters if they do not do that IMO. 

[onefootwillie 1,518]

Investment is obviously needed . We need 3 quality players plus the likes of Walker , Moult , MCLean and their like to give us a decent team . celtic are better than us but not that great . Now I have no idea if the present board have any investment plans but the problem seems that if they don't there is nobody else about who does and is interested in us 

[saltire266 502]

2 hours ago, onefootwillie said:

Investment is obviously needed . We need 3 quality players plus the likes of Walker , Moult , MCLean and their like to give us a decent team . celtic are better than us but not that great . Now I have no idea if the present board have any investment plans but the problem seems that if they don't there is nobody else about who does and is interested in us 

The job of the board is to make sure the club runs at a sustainable level.The other main part of their job is to attract and secure investment to ensure the club keeps moving up to a better level.

What investment have they brought???? Fail

Whats the business plan?? Fail

Stock exchange??Fail

Protect the name of the business and issue legal challenges to any entity or individual that potentially causes damage to the business..Fail

An open AGM where supporters ask questions about anything and not hand picked pricks that ask pre arranged stuff for ten minutes..FAIL

could write a book about these cunts we have as a board!!

 

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

3 hours ago, MasterD said:

Unfortunetely not that simple when no one else is wanting to invest.

Not even them!

[Gazza2258 478]

Investment is only half the problem. Someone who will spend wisely is the other half. 

[Alves70 393]

14 minutes ago, onefootwillie said:

Investment is obviously needed . We need 3 quality players plus the likes of Walker , Moult , MCLean and their like to give us a decent team . celtic are better than us but not that great . Now I have no idea if the present board have any investment plans but the problem seems that if they don't there is nobody else about who does and is interested in us 

Probably need to clear the debt first before any potential investment is incoming. 

It's vital we get this rights issue over the line. Everything on this subject has been pretty silent for months now. 

 

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

2 hours ago, JukeBoxJohn said:

Board need to sack the clueless cunt they wrongly appointed tonight. Just delaying the inevitable otherwise. 

He will remain until this board decide otherwise, because our board know we are mostly gullible, spineless types. However, the inevitible is, we are not challenging the scum with or without Pedro and that is the heart of the matter. Our board know we will put up with any old shite and keep them tills ringing.

Be prepared for disappointment for a long time to come, including our next manager and the next........!

[K.A.I 36,183]

1 minute ago, Blue Avenger said:

He will remain until this board decide otherwise, because our board we are mostly gullible, spineless types. However, the inevitible is, we are not not challenging the scum with or without Pedro and that is the heart of the matter. Our board know we will put up with any old shite and keep them tills ringing.

Be prepared for disappointment for a long time to come, including our next manager and the next........!

As I keep saying to you and you don't respond, why does it have to be about challenging for the title? why can't there be an in-between something better than now and a bridge between both? a better manager would have us comfortably second, maybe a chance of winning a cup and probably Europa group stages ... if we can't be title challengers, surely it's OK to aim for that? why does it have to be title challenge or nothing? 

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

3 minutes ago, Alves70 said:

Probably need to clear the debt first before any potential investment is incoming. 

It's vital we get this rights issue over the line. Everything on this subject has been pretty silent for months now. 

 

It matters not the debt. Any potential new owner has to pay one way or another

[Bears r us 30,791]

9 minutes ago, VladimirWeiss said:

Investment is only half the problem. Someone who will spend wisely is the other half. 

Yes but that is also the responsibility of King and the board. 

[Alves70 393]

7 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said:

It matters not the debt. Any potential new owner has to pay one way or another

True but if you've got £50m to invest do you really want half of that going to pay off debt that someone else ran up or would you want 100% of that money going directly into the club/team?

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

1 minute ago, K.A.I said:

As I keep saying to you and you don't respond, why does it have to be about challenging for the title? why can't there be an in-between something better than now and a bridge between both? a better manager would have us comfortably second, maybe a chance of winning a cup and probably Europa group stages ... if we can't be title challengers, surely it's OK to aim for that? why does it have to be title challenge or nothing? 

As I previously explained, If you cannot get in quality we remain in the same in the shit pool  standard as all the rest in this backwater, just that we pay over inflated wages because of who we are. Our players are mediocrity incarnated compared to the scum. With mediocrity comes inconsistency. Look at the sheep. Pumped by shite, but they will be there or their abouts at the end of the season in fighting for second place. Only the taigs have the quality to be consistent due to their quality, whilst the rest are a mile off and they have proven that. 

FFS, you only have to start with our keeper. A half decent shot stopper that he is, but his all round game is a fucking embarrassment. Then we only need to move to right back with Tav, the imposter. Need I go on? We cannot and will not do anything with players like these and those fucking two are rated by our support ffs? We couldn't even afford the wages of any of the scum players, far less transfer fees for even one of their better. That says it all. We are not at the races with them, so we fight it out with all the rest, being at the same level as the rest. Our players are simply not better than the rest and until we realise that, we will remain to be in continual disappointment .We will forever be in that category until we can step up the quality of player.

Pedro is no BR, but who is that we could afford? Any decent manager of BR type calibre wouldn't touch us with a shitty stick if he didn't have the budget to match the scum in quality players, far less the board stumping up the wages for the correct candidate. Many shouted De Boar and just look how he turned out and that's with getting paid plenty for his short service.

This board have us on a hiding to nothing, along with every manager they bring in, as their aspirations are not that of ours. Second is obviously their target and whilst that exists we go nowhere and we WILL put up with it and don't our board know it.

We will get a little better, but that will be the extent of it, simply because the investment to do otherwise just isn't there.

[K.A.I 36,183]

2 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said:

As I previously explained, If you cannot get in quality we remain in the same in the shit pool  standard as all the rest in this backwater, just that we pay over inflated wages because of who we are. Our players are mediocrity incarnated compared to the scum. With mediocrity comes inconsistency. Look at the sheep. Pumped by shite, but they will be there or their abouts at the end of the season in fighting for second place. Only the taigs have the quality to be consistent due to their quality, whilst the rest are a mile off and they have proven that. 

FFS, you only have to start with our keeper. A half decent shot stopper that he is, but his all round game is a fucking embarrassment. Then we only need to move to right back with Tav, the imposter. Need I go on? We cannot and will not do anything with players like these and those fucking two are rated by our support ffs? We couldn't even afford the wages of any of the scum players, far less transfer fees for even one of their better. That says it all. We are not at the races with them, so we fight it out with all the rest, being at the same level as the rest. Our players are simply not better than the rest and until we realise that, we will remain to be in continual disappointment .We will forever be in that category until we can step up the quality of player.

Pedro is no BR, but who is that we could afford? Any decent manager of BR type calibre wouldn't touch us with a shitty stick if he didn't have the budget to match the scum in quality players, far less the board stumping up the wages for the correct candidate. Many shouted De Boar and just look how he turned out and that's with getting paid plenty for his short service.

This board have us on a hiding to nothing, along with every manager they bring in, as their aspirations are not that of ours. Second is obviously their target and whilst that exists we go nowhere and we WILL put up with it and don't our board know it.

We will get a little better, but that will be the extent of it, simply because the investment to do otherwise just isn't there.

Sorry to skim over most of that, but are you saying we can't even get a manager who with these players and resources here would finish a comfortable second, and have got to the group stages of the Europa league? 

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

22 minutes ago, Alves70 said:

True but if you've got £50m to invest do you really want half of that going to pay off debt that someone else ran up or would you want 100% of that money going directly into the club/team?

Them you are only willing to pay 25 mil.. The price is the price. Unless you are in serious financial crises, you want back all the money you put in and more. You are paying 50mil including debt or  50mil  for shares, some of which may have been financed in transferring debt to equity.  It all goes to the selling shareholders. It's the investment that comes behind it from the new owners that matters. Like all that money king promised us.

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

6 minutes ago, K.A.I said:

Sorry to skim over most of that, but are you saying we can't even get a manager who with these players and resources here would finish a comfortable second, and have got to the group stages of the Europa league? 

Correct.

Because of who we are, we simply pay a premium for any transfer fees and wages for our mediocrity, whilst the rest get a similar level player for much less.

Outwith the scum, how long has it been for a Scottish club to get into the group stages of the Europa and even then it was by default as they bombed out of the CL qualifiers.

Exactly. Now that's with Scottish teams up against peasants and goat herders and we only reinforced that when we were pumped out. The Scottish game not only stood still in our absence, it went backwards. 

By no coincidence a great time for kingco to make his move as it would cost little to make some sort of an impact in the top tier, hence the investment for second place, largely funded by us. King ain't daft!

Where is our Tierney? Our Dembele and Griffiths? Our Sinclair? Our Armstrong? Players who sadly we can now only dream about and even then, they ain't that good, but that just sums up exactly as to where we are.

Our board have made sure we are not chasing anyone, but simply to play out to be the best of a bad bunch and hope for a miracle.

It is clear the board bought into the Portoguese Mexican connection for cheap players, but Morelas aside, none are taking us to a title, far less consistently beating those around us. Being from sunnier climes, I can't see any attraction to them becoming inspired in playing in a shit league, where you can never catch the dominant force, in shit stadiums, in a shit climate, except taking over inflated wages, even if they had the talent. We are laden with Latino journeymen, no better than Scottish journeymen and the big disappointment that is Alves. FFS, we we even gave Fod an extended contract? What next? A masdive one one for the imposter that is Tav?!

We are a long way off qualifying for anything and so it will remain under any manager.

[scott12003 711]

im no king a ling but him and his investors have put money in 

but cant get a manager to spend wisely

[saltire266 502]

14 minutes ago, scott12003 said:

im no king a ling but him and his investors have put money in 

but cant get a manager to spend wisely

FFS do we know exactly who put what in? Just to keep the lights on but player wise it's way off what's required.Neither the bread man or Pedro has had a decent transfer budget so far.For the money Pedro has spent better than The bread man but you can only buy a certain quality within our outlay

[BLUEDIGNITY 33,647]

It's no even a clusterfuck noo, it's basically just fuck awe, nothing to offer, stagnation !

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

If this was any board except the one the loud mouth cunts in our support wanted we would be having protests and rat masks on Edmiston Drive. 

The fact we don’t shows you just what matters to  those cunts. 

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

1 hour ago, K.A.I said:

Sorry to skim over most of that, but are you saying we can't even get a manager who with these players and resources here would finish a comfortable second, and have got to the group stages of the Europa league? 

Group stages with that team. ??

Your needing to stop blaming the manager for all our faults and focus on the board. 

[the brown brogue 1,909]

4 hours ago, Virtuoso said:

It's time the board were held to account, considering we were promised a manager 'of the highest possible calibre' - yet we got a fucking unknown, sitting 5th in the Qatari league - on a three year fucking contract.

Now we have a dud manager whose just spent nigh on 9 fucking million on a team that look as though they only met prior to kick off.

Maybe C1872 will finally start asking those pertinent questions that they promised when they said that they would demand answers / hold the board to account....only issue being that 'non conflict of interest' James Blair 

Fuck Pedro

Fuck his signings

Fuck King and the board

Fuck C1872.

Not to mention the whole Director of Football debacle.

[K.A.I 36,183]

39 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said:

Group stages with that team. ??

Your needing to stop blaming the manager for all our faults and focus on the board. 

So you are saying that team man-for-man is not good enough to beat that mid-table Luxembourg team, the mob from Cyprus and then was it a Bosnian team? give over ... I know you stretch to cover up Pedro's misgivings with boardroom blame but that's taking it a bit far.

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

3 hours ago, K.A.I said:

Great post. 

Leadership does have to come down from the top you are correct. 

But I would urge caution conflating the blame. 

Yes King should act and sack Pedro and get rid of the football panel that appointed him, but you also can't blame King for Pedro's tactics today, or the pish he spouts in the press embarrassing us, or his coaching, or what he chose to spend 8-million of club funds on in the summer. 

There's blame from top to bottom but it's important it get's aimed proportionately and at the right people.

I will concede, though, that just like the players, performances and results are Pedro's responsibility - Pedro's performance is ultimately King's responsibility in the exact same way, so yeah he's far from blameless.

You have actually conflated your response to suit your agenda.

As for Pedro's tactics today you are now truly grasping at straws. We were beaten fairly and squarely by a far superior team.

It 's fuck all to do with Pedro's performances and all to do with investment for all the reasons stated by more than me.

You are only listening to yourself.

 

[five stars 1,621]

3 hours ago, Bears r us said:

While you are probably right about an alternative as far as us ordinary fans go, it is the board room members and major shareholders of our club who have the responsibility to look after Rangers and make them competitive again. They told us they would do that. If and it looks like they cannot fulfill that bluster and bravado then they should be using every working hour searching the world for others who can.

They are imposters if they do not do that IMO. 

They have invested considered amounts of cash. 

They got rid of MW when it wasn't working.

Payed compensation to get the man in they wanted early.

Then gave him significant funds to completely revamp the squad.

I don't think it's the board fault the cash payed for likes of Pena and Herrara looks like it could of been better spent.

The main valid criticism of the board is that it looks like they brought in the wrong manager.

I hope there's someone out there who wants to invest heavily in Rangers but I'd image if there was they would of shown their hand by now.