GetToTheChoppa 6,873 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 We don't have money to compete cos we got pumped by part timers from Luxembourg. Time to get a name in who players want to play for. A Michael Laudrup figure who can get players on loan from Barca etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, City_of_Blue said: Good post OP. I said earlier, Pedro has been financially hamstrung and I'm convinced he would recruit better if he wasn't forced to buy a whole new team for relative pennies. Other teams managers seem to do ok because they don't have the pressure of having to win every game. Proper strong investment will get us some world class players who have the right attitude and steel to handle the pressures of playing for Rangers. Over to you Dave King. No more bullshit. Sadly most of the bullshit these days is from supporters, namely the Pedro haters and the Tav and Fod lovers. Conclusion, we remain also rans playing for second place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Just now, GetToTheChoppa said: We don't have money to compete cos we got pumped by part timers from Luxembourg. Time to get a name in who players want to play for. A Michael Laudrup figure who can get players on loan from Barca etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billscott 2,463 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 36 minutes ago, Amac9 said: £2m on Pena. £1m on Dorrans. £1.5m on Herrera. £1.5m on Cardoso. Money wasted. It's to do with quality and finding good players. Dembele cost them nothing, Griffiths cost £1m, Sinclair was hardly ground breaking money at £4m. Yet we continually to buy a load of shite. glad you said that we have spent far more than any other team in the league even celtic have not spent much although i realise they have a bigger wage bill we have wasted money on rubbish of the buys pedro has made i only rate jack and moralos the rest of his foreign army are shit we could not even beat thistle over 2 90 min games Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 It's not purely financial. How stupid are some people? It's a big part of not being able to compete with celtic, but what about his tactics, coaching, methods? or the fact we can't win 3 games in Scotland or get past a mid-table Luxembourg team in Europe? our finances blow that lot both Luxumbourg and the Scottish dross outwith celtic out of the water so what's the excuse for that? So no it's not purely financial - although it's the perfect excuse for the people who continue to wrap Pedro in cotton wool. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,500 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 39 minutes ago, Amac9 said: £2m on Pena. £1m on Dorrans. £1.5m on Herrera. £1.5m on Cardoso. Money wasted. It's to do with quality and finding good players. Dembele cost them nothing, Griffiths cost £1m, Sinclair was hardly ground breaking money at £4m. Yet we continually to buy a load of shite. fucking hell dembele and sinclairs wages probably covered our back 4's plus keepers wage, anycunt can find god players its affording their wages thats the issue, the tarriers are spending well over 30million a year in player wages, id be surprised if their midfield 5 didnt cost the same in wages as our starting 11 does Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCR1 1,501 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Yep, it really is, they just have better players, still. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,500 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 minute ago, billscott said: glad you said that we have spent far more than any other team in the league even celtic have not spent much although i realise they have a bigger wage bill we have wasted money on rubbish of the buys pedro has made i only rate jack and moralos the rest of his foreign army are shit we could not even beat thistle over 2 90 min games tarriers spent nearly 6million on 2 midfielders, thats after going unbeaten in a season domestically, nobody can compete with that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, K.A.I said: It's not purely financial. How stupid are some people? It's a big part of not being able to compete with celtic, but what about his tactics, coaching, methods? or the fact we can't win 3 games in Scotland or get past a mid-table Luxembourg team in Europe? our finances blow that lot both Luxumbourg and the Scottish dross outwith celtic out of the water so what's the excuse for that? So no it's not purely financial - although it's the perfect excuse for the people who continue to wrap Pedro in cotton wool. Maybe Graeme Murty was on 100k a week when he got a result at the piggery. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
City_of_Blue 565 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: Sadly most of the bullshit these days is from supporters, namely the Pedro haters and the Tav and Fod lovers. Conclusion, we remain also rans playing for second place. Agreed. I posted this on Fod a few days ago after hearing he signed a new contract: "He is a decent goalkeeper. But in the long term and where we want to go as a club and get back to, we will need way more than a decent goalkeeper." Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ibrox Derry 8,887 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Jose Mourinho or any of the top class managers in England and Europe would only improve this current squad performance by 25% max. It's quality that's the problem and quality equals cash. We have neither. So it's fighting for 2nd and maybe a Cup run, that's the best we can hope for sadly. But as fans we can continue to support as usual, because the Catholics still hate the fact that we are around, they truly thought we were a goner. So sing it loud wear the colours, because whatever they say, the cunts fucking hate it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 minute ago, sandyinroyalblue said: Maybe Graeme Murty was on 100k a week when he got a result at the piggery. Sounds like an EBT ... Lawwell wants our point taken aff us Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman 39 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 The financial aspect is part of the problem but the managers stats suggest this is a bigger problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeirFleckNRothen 1,789 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 He spent £2M or £3M on Pena, for fuck's sake. Gordon, Lustig, Boyata, Armstrong, Rogic, Forrest, McGregor, Simunovic, Griffiths & even Roberts were part of the side/squad that struggled to the 15/16 SPL title in-front of a celtic Park with its top tier closed. They spent £4M on Sinclair, but as I said, we've spent up to £3M on fucking Pena. We've also paid good salaries for Barton, Kranjcar, Alves & Dorrans. What we need is a manager who inspires and instills confidence; Caixinha does the absolute opposite and that blame falls on the boards lap. Yes, they're wealthier than us, but the Scottish Premier League can be won without going all Abu Dhabi, for fuck's sake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, K.A.I said: It's not purely financial. How stupid are some people? It's a big part of not being able to compete with celtic, but what about his tactics, coaching, methods? or the fact we can't win 3 games in Scotland or get past a mid-table Luxembourg team in Europe? our finances blow that lot both Luxumbourg and the Scottish dross outwith celtic out of the water so what's the excuse for that? So no it's not purely financial - although it's the perfect excuse for the people who continue to wrap Pedro in cotton wool. It the current context it is actually. The scum are where they are because of money. They can buy and pay far better than all the teams in this backwater put together. Then there is the footballing standard in this backwater. Outwith the scum, all teams are geared up for the Scottish game and is it therefore any surprise that we, the sheep and StJ were unceremoniously pumped out of Europe's token prequalifiers by no marks? The world of football has well moved on, whereas outwith the scum in this backwater, the rest remain in a timewarp and with this board, we shall remain well stuck in it. The goat and camel herders from Kazak and Azerbejan must laugh their cocks off when a Scottish team comes out the hat. Such great footballing nations they are, not, whilst we are exactly what? Worse than fucking goat herders. Well the fact is, we are! So we get Jose M in tomorrow, on the same bugdet that Dembele, Broon and Sinclair probably earn in wages, so what do we win? The answer is sweet fuck all. There is absolutely nothing to be gained nor accurate in constantly winging on about, well we can't beat the other teams. The answer to that is simply because, we recruit mediocrity just like the rest and whilst we may pay more in inflated wages, they remain mediocrity and with mediocrity comes inconsistency. It is as simple as that. We go nowhere without the funding to match the quality of the scum and that is the heart of the matter. All the winging and removing of Pedro will make not one jot of a difference until the board fund a true title challenge, so it aint hapening and inconsistency will be the watch word. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: It the current context it is actually. The scum are where they are because of money. They can buy and pay far better than all the teams in this backwater put together. Then there is the footballing standard in this backwater. Outwith the scum, all teams are geared up for the Scottish game and is it therefore any surprise that we, the sheep and StJ were unceremoniously pumped out of Europe's token prequalifiers by no marks? The world of football has well moved on, whereas outwith the scum in this backwater, the rest remain in a timewarp and with this board, we shall remain well stuck in it. The goat and camel herders from Kazak and Azerbejan must laugh their cocks off when a Scottish team comes out the hat. Such great footballing nations they are, not, whilst we are exactly what? Worse than fucking goat herders. Well the fact is, we are! So we get Jose M in tomorrow, on the same bugdet that Dembele, Broon and Sinclair probably earn in wages, so what do we win? The answer is sweet fuck all. There is absolutely nothing to be gained nor accurate in constantly winging on about, well we can't beat the other teams. The answer to that is simply because, we recruit mediocrity just like the rest and whilst we may pay more in inflated wages, they remain mediocrity and with mediocrity comes inconsistency. It is as simple as that. We go nowhere without the funding to match the quality of the scum and that is the heart of the matter. All the winging and removing of Pedro will make not one jot of a difference until the board fund a true title challenge, so it aint hapening and inconsistency will be the watch word. You mention context at the start, but here's the context never mind challenging for the title (I agree with you until the board show ambition we can forget it) but the next best thing is to put up a fight, qualify for Europe, finish second, maybe even win a domestic cup - why not aim for that first in a walk before we can run mantra and let us build? ... we can't even win 3 games in Scotland under Pedro and that's fuck-all to do with King and the board Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornabear 6,201 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Yes, the difference is money, plain and simple. Alas, the only money so far, has come from us, the fans. So there is the problem, until we get the money we were PROMISED from this board, we will be going nowhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam_piece 633 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 exactly why pedro was chosen. we cant match them financially at the minute. Does anyone actually think we'll bring in mccinness and he'll magically beat the scum with a third of the budget? Pedro was picked because he opens up an untapped market. To bring in players of the same quality you could get from the championship at a quarter the price. this isnt a shit at glory where a bunch of cunts rise above and win the champions league. Its real life. Its not even fuckkng football anymore. its a game of monopoly. whoever has the most money rules the roost. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alves70 393 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Personally for me the two c***ts most to blame for where or club is at are Murray and Whyte. I know this is going over old ground but these two rats fu**ed us over and left them with unchallenged entry into the CL over the last 5 years. The nonce have taken in probably £50m plus from Europe since 2012 while we have probably lost that amount from not being in Europe. Every trace of that rat Murrays name should be permanently removed from Ibrox and Auchenhowie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,195 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Money is at the root of it. When they got rid of the Norwegian dud, they went and spent big on Rodgers who might be a prick but he's improved them considerably. We need significant investment in both the playing and management staff. There's been nothing forthcoming under this joke of a board to suggest they are capable of providing it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theclothmonster 1,704 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 If its all about the money how did we finish behind Aberdeen last season and look like doing so this season too? Struggling to get results against pishy teams who have a fraction of our budget but aye its all about the financials. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
folkestoneger 8,084 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 2 hours ago, City_of_Blue said: Good post OP. I said earlier, Pedro has been financially hamstrung and I'm convinced he would recruit better if he wasn't forced to buy a whole new team for relative pennies. Other teams managers seem to do ok because they don't have the pressure of having to win every game. Proper strong investment will get us some world class players who have the right attitude and steel to handle the pressures of playing for Rangers. Over to you Dave King. No more bullshit. No team in Scotland can afford world class players Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennybongo 110 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 We've spent more than the other teams by a long long way. We are 5th in the fuckin SPL behind the likes of St Johnstone FFS. Pedro should be fired, no two ways about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, theclothmonster said: If its all about the money how did we finish behind Aberdeen last season and look like doing so this season too? Struggling to get results against pishy teams who have a fraction of our budget but aye its all about the financials. It's a massive red herring mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitzer007 198 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 22 minutes ago, theclothmonster said: If its all about the money how did we finish behind Aberdeen last season and look like doing so this season too? Struggling to get results against pishy teams who have a fraction of our budget but aye its all about the financials. This all day long. Using the OP's logic then we should be a shoe-in for 2nd. At this rate we'll be lucky to qualify for Europe! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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