now then forever 298 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Anybody else think this could work for us? Think McCrorie, Alves and Cardoso would be a good back 3 and you'd have Wallace or John and Tav or Candeias to play wide midfield/wingback. Jack and Dorrans in the middle, or Rossiter if he can ever find fitness. And plenty of options for the 3 forward areas. I'd personally give Nemane a chance on the left to see what he can do alongside Candeias and Morelos, but there's quite a few options. I'd go: Foderingham or Alnwick McCrorie Alves Cardoso Wallace or John Jack Dorrans Tav Nemane Morelos Candeias Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 no, but i think a 3-5-2 is a real option Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Before we plump for any formation we need a better standard of player and dugout THEN we can discuss formation Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,497 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said: Before we plump for any formation we need a better standard of player and dugout THEN we can discuss formation Starts with the board. All down to finance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,716 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 We can't get a control of midfield playing 442. How do we get more control playing 343? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 13,988 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: We can't get a control of midfield playing 442. How do we get more control playing 343? Exactly. If we play 3 at the back, 3-5-2 or a 3-5-1-1 would be the option. We lose the midfield battle every time,so filling it is the only chance to control it and justify 3 at the back Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
now then forever 298 Posted September 24, 2017 Author Share Posted September 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: We can't get a control of midfield playing 442. How do we get more control playing 343? The two playing off the main striker drop deep to support the midfield as required. They can be quite hard to pick up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,716 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, now then forever said: The two playing off the main striker drop deep to support the midfield as required. They can be quite hard to pick up. So a 343 turns to a 361? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddybears1872 129 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Formations need to suited to the players we have.. 3 4 3, Sounds Good, Extra upfront, But I doubt the defence could handle the extra pressure and the midfielders running back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_r_sole 366 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Easy to get a system when you can throw 50 odd million on a couple of defenders... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gj923 1,457 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 29 minutes ago, now then forever said: Anybody else think this could work for us? Think McCrorie, Alves and Cardoso would be a good back 3 and you'd have Wallace or John and Tav or Candeias to play wide midfield/wingback. Jack and Dorrans in the middle, or Rossiter if he can ever find fitness. And plenty of options for the 3 forward areas. I'd personally give Nemane a chance on the left to see what he can do alongside Candeias and Morelos, but there's quite a few options. I'd go: Foderingham or Alnwick McCrorie Alves Cardoso Wallace or John Jack Dorrans Tav Nemane Morelos Candeias Has Nemane not played about 30 minutes of senior football so far in his career? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theclothmonster 1,707 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 We wont ever win the midfield battle with players like Krancjar, Windass and Pena. Not one of them can be arsed to help out when we don't have the ball. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
now then forever 298 Posted September 24, 2017 Author Share Posted September 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: So a 343 turns to a 361? Or more of a 5-4-1, it's pretty flexible, hence why it's a good option. We couldn't play a straight 3-5-2 against celtic as we'd then get destroyed out wide. Tierney and Sinclair both bombing down our right against only one of our players would have a field day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 14,158 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said: Before we plump for any formation we need a better standard of player and dugout THEN we can discuss formation So just stay as we are till the transfer window opens? Doesn't seem the most sensible move. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 10,503 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 1 hour ago, cushynumber said: no, but i think a 3-5-2 is a real option Got to agree that there is something in it. If we play Tav and John as the wide midfielders you get pace and crosses as well as the ability to get back for a back 5. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juniorsparkie 491 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 2 hours ago, now then forever said: Anybody else think this could work for us? Think McCrorie, Alves and Cardoso would be a good back 3 and you'd have Wallace or John and Tav or Candeias to play wide midfield/wingback. Jack and Dorrans in the middle, or Rossiter if he can ever find fitness. And plenty of options for the 3 forward areas. I'd personally give Nemane a chance on the left to see what he can do alongside Candeias and Morelos, but there's quite a few options. I'd go: Foderingham or Alnwick McCrorie Alves Cardoso Wallace or John Jack Dorrans Tav Nemane Morelos Candeias If you read in the post/thread about Portuguese pressing they are all supposed to help each other, track back fill the spaces then move forward with pace. Basically what a 3-5-2 or 3-4-3 would do, but either we don't have the players and/or the Coach to fulfill these fantasy formations. Cardoso and Alva's in a three ? Not for me, hope I'm wrong but don't see it neither has the ability now to do this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gascoigne8 3,378 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Cardozo and alves are too slow to play in a back 3 and tav has no positional sense to play as a wingback, he would be posted missing more often than not Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffy2391 574 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I think a 3-5-2/1-1 could work for us. Candeias and John out wide but running in rather than going for the crosses and a central 3 of Dorrans, Jack and Peña. Jack would be sitting deeper as he currently does, and if we were faced against a 4-4-2, he could be instructed to man mark one of the front two throughout the game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alves70 393 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 We are not good enough to play 3 up front we saw that many times under the previous manager. Still think in the majority of games in Scotland 4-4-2 is good enough it's just guys like Miller, Windass and Wes need to be dropped. Morelos and Herrera should get a run of 5-6 games together to see what they can do. We don't have great options on the left right now but once everyone is fit get John or Nemane out there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEE 4,880 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Works well because they have five outstanding defenders, and two in midfield that will fall back when their wing backs go. We can Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEE 4,880 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Canny edit - we can play any formation and we're still shite. @gogzy @ben51 fix the edit! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,480 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Cardoso at the side of a three, is an idea that gives me so much fear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairheid_bear 166 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Alves70 said: We are not good enough to play 3 up front we saw that many times under the previous manager. Still think in the majority of games in Scotland 4-4-2 is good enough it's just guys like Miller, Windass and Wes need to be dropped. Morelos and Herrera should get a run of 5-6 games together to see what they can do. We don't have great options on the left right now but once everyone is fit get John or Nemane out there. Agreed - with Miller looking less like an automatic pick I want to see if Hererra and Morelos can develop a partnership. Windass is too inconsistent and lightweight to be anything more than a squad player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, BEE said: Canny edit - we can play any formation and we're still shite. @gogzy @ben51 fix the edit! Try now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIRB_72 4,000 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Tav and Wallace/John are wing backs in my eyes and considering we dont have 2 great centre halfs why do we not play 3 at the back with wing backs? I thought even in the Championship we should have been playing, or moving towards, a 3-4-3 or a 3-5-2 with the players we had under Warburton and now Pedro Pedro has never used three at the back and I don't see him starting now unfortunately! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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