RangersMedia 35,961 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: Credit to him tonight, but he remains one of our weakest links. It's alright doing his bit against shite, but let me know when he puts on a decent defensive performance agianst the scum. He needs to get his defensive game sorted. Until then, not good enough As for "brilliant", some need to get of the crack pipe ffs. Overall, we are in a much better place than last season. Good team performance and a 3 goal win away from, all day fucking long! In the context of this league, St Johnstone certainly aren’t “the shite”. They’ve consistently been the 4th or 5th best team for years now, with a fairly settled team and style of play. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Looks to have really settled now he has a decent centre pairing behind him and candaies in front of him. His crosses have been top notch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpswichGer 3,738 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 1 hour ago, cushynumber said: Looks to have really settled now he has a decent centre pairing behind him and candaies in front of him. His crosses have been top notch. Bang on. Imagine being stitched up by McKay in front of you and whatever shitey centre back pairing we had under Warburton. It can't have been easy for Tav. Can't even remember who that was (CB Pairing) - My memory has been erased it was that painful. Traumatic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Heart and Hand 8,949 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 he's become a bit of a scapegoat this season solid and consistent player, and as OP says he's a vital yet under appreciated part of our squad Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 9 hours ago, ben51 said: Proved tonight how important he is to Rangers. Receives a lot of grief due to his defensive capabilities, which I accept to an extent. But quite often he can be very solid and offensively is very important. Two fantastic assists tonight and his relationship with Candeias is strengthening a previous weakness. I'm sure he can keep it up. It has to be said that Candeias works hard on the defensive side if his game and that help make them a good partnership. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol loyal 6,248 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Ive always liked Tav, he's a modern day attacking full back so of course there's times where he might be caught out of position but he's instructed to overlap so that's going to happen sometimes apart from that I think he's reasonably solid defensively and brilliant going forward, great crossing and passing and again this season is one of our most creative players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvd1873 7,044 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 2 simply brilliant crosses for Pena last night, keep it up Tav?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryju84 3,170 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Always supported him - except during an OF game last season when I said he was shite. Obvious credit where its due... but last night we actually had players in the box when crosses came in. Even this wasnt happening at start of season and Tav had no target to aim at. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltire266 502 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I was a critic of his but he has been a better player over the last 3 matches. Needs to nake sure players dont ghost away from him at back post free kicks and corners.Candieas has helped him and thank fuck he dosent take free kicks now either Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ready1873 3,864 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Candeias is his perfect partner on the wing. I like Tav. Always have and was really hoping we kept him in the transfer window. Some proper ability in the lad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavieMacRFC 850 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 On 13/10/2017 at 21:54, Geo17 said: He's been brilliant this season. Candeias has brought the best out in him. I agree 100%, he provides the pace and cover when Tav pushes forward. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I've said this in previous posts but it's worth repeating - We need two hard working wide players in front of the full-backs who can cover for them defensively when they do get forward. Candeias is putting in the defensive shift over on the right and we can see how that is benefitting Tavernier. We need someone to do the same thing for Wallace over on the left and I think young Declan John will be the one who will provide that. Last season our two full-backs, Wallace and Tavernier, had a hand in 25% of all our league goals: Wallace: 5 assists and 3 goals. Tavernier: 5 assists and 1 goal. I've checked out this seasons stats and they're making a similar contribution. So far we've scored 20 league goals: Wallace: 1 assist and 0 goals. Declan John 0 Assists and 2 goals. Tavernier: 4 assists and 1 goal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,121 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 On 13/10/2017 at 21:53, ben51 said: Proved tonight how important he is to Rangers. Receives a lot of grief due to his defensive capabilities, which I accept to an extent. But quite often he can be very solid and offensively is very important. Two fantastic assists tonight and his relationship with Candeias is strengthening a previous weakness. I'm sure he can keep it up. I'd like to see him play in a more advanced role ahead of a back three. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbm26896 995 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Excellent against SJ . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,109 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Must admit I've critical of Tav and still not convinced he's the answer long term but credit where it's due there's been an improvement this season Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 On 13 October 2017 at 22:35, ben51 said: So we'll ignore his assist against the scum last Season. Also, his solid defensive and offensive performance against them in the 1-1 game. (More to shout about against them than most, but I agree not enough). But really on topic, this thread was more about his performances this Season. He's been much improved, not sure why that's so hard to accept... He is supposed to be a defender and as a defender he is poor. Those saying Candias covers for him is as weak as it gets and says everything I want a defender who can defend and the best one in Scotland at that, not makeshift. Solid against the scum my erse. His weaknesses are obvious for all to see and as I say, do it against the scum, then we can start with the OTT adulation, but FFS, to have some saying at this juncture he's brilliant, among the elite, are on fucking drugs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Blue Avenger said: He is supposed to be a defender and as a defender he is poor. Those saying Candias covers for him is as weak as it gets and says everything I want a defender who can defend and the best one in Scotland at that, not makeshift. Solid against the scum my erse. His weaknesses are obvious for all to see and as I say, do it against the scum, then we can start with the OTT adulation, but FFS, to have some saying at this juncture he's brilliant, among the elite, are on fucking drugs. Modern full-backs are asked to go forward and their contribution going forward can often be worth more than what they offer defensively. A few years ago Izaguirre, an attacking full-back who can't defend, won POTY here in Scotland because he was such an asset going forward. During Walter's second spell we were winning titles and pulling off good runs in Europe with Whittaker at RB who again, couldn't defend and often contributed more with his attacking play. The highest rated full-back in the country is Tierney and there's even questions over his ability to defend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanjo 26,294 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Makes mistakes at the back but Candeias has been bailing him out. Tav going forward supplements at the other end too in exchange. I like the partnership this and I hope it improves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markem 7,238 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 On 10/13/2017 at 21:53, ben51 said: Proved tonight how important he is to Rangers. Receives a lot of grief due to his defensive capabilities, which I accept to an extent. But quite often he can be very solid and offensively is very important. Two fantastic assists tonight and his relationship with Candeias is strengthening a previous weakness. I'm sure he can keep it up. Agree, we have plenty threat down that side - if only we could replicate it on the other side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMckee 3,397 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 So we gonna see the 'blue Cafu' patter come back than? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueboyG 5,137 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Said to a few folk last season that I thought there was a player in there somewhere and it's starting to show now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozblue 4,331 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 On 10/14/2017 at 08:00, sandyinroyalblue said: Not really swung in with pace but just really accurate. The problem with Tav is that when he puts some pace on his cross the ball has probably more chance of ending up in the car park or Edmiston Drive depending on what end we are attacking than it has of getting to our players in the box. If he keeps pinging them in like he has been doing lately, that will do me fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper007 45 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 He's playing very well along side Candeias (who is class) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,260 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 He's got a good midfielder, both help each other and compliment each others play. Left hand side is shite by comparison. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
City_of_Blue 565 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Like others have said, he needs to produce the goods both attacking and defensively in the biggest and most important games. I wish Tav well cause there's a lot to like, but he's nowhere near the level that Rangers demand. He's still got age on his side though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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