Drunk and disorderly. 14,418 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 We defended 16 corners successfully agains St Johnstone on Friday. This time last year we would have conceeded at least one goal from them, more than likely 2 or more. Refreshing to see some progress being made in that department. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 We did it whilst leaving players up the park for a change too. Don't know if that helped (less congestion in the box) or was coincidence but was good to see. Having Bruno at the back certainly helped. Solid player and performance. Certainly not the non-committed shite bag some had him down as. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Deacon 55,168 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, Drunk and disorderly. said: We defended 16 corners successfully agains St Johnstone on Friday. This time last year we would have conceeded at least one goal from them, more than likely 2 or more. Refreshing to see some progress being made in that department. Whilst they didn't score and I don't want to be too critical I was still a little worried about how we couldn't just get the ball away cleanly right up the park Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 We didn't concede from them so your point is valid. But, that wee spell in the second half when they got 6 or 7 corners in a row i was shiting it thinking it was inevitable that they would eventually score, they didn't obviously but i think we could have defended them better by clearing our lines up the way and getting out. Wes coming from cross balls gives me the fear aswell, he looks really uncomfortable doing so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,418 Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 24 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: We did it whilst leaving players up the park for a change too. Don't know if that helped (less congestion in the box) or was coincidence but was good to see. Having Bruno at the back certainly helped. Solid player and performance. Certainly not the non-committed shite bag some had him down as. Agreed. MW usually had 10 players defending crosses with very little outlet for the clearances. Bruno might not be the fastest on his feet but is confident in the air and reads the ball well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,418 Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 26 minutes ago, Dan Deacon said: Whilst they didn't score and I don't want to be too critical I was still a little worried about how we couldn't just get the ball away cleanly right up the park Fair point. Hopefully that will come with time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,890 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Bruno was excellent. The worry is when teams miss him out. Their centre half should’ve scored and the one that Cardoso got outjumped and their striker flicked ball over bar from four yards with no-one within 5 yards of him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 12 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: Bruno was excellent. The worry is when teams miss him out. Their centre half should’ve scored and the one that Cardoso got outjumped and their striker flicked ball over bar from four yards with no-one within 5 yards of him. I think Mccrorie is stronger in the air, not seen him lose a challenge. Cardosa (?)seems slow to get up for the header and can be dominated quite easily. A few of them have appeared to be fouls against him but you don't always get them in Scotland. I think he needs a bit more aggression about him. I'd prefer a back 3, or Bruno and Mccrorie. Neither will happen though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Much, much better but Wes has to be more commanding IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,890 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: I think Mccrorie is stronger in the air, not seen him lose a challenge. Cardosa (?)seems slow to get up for the header and can be dominated quite easily. A few of them have appeared to be fouls against him but you don't always get them in Scotland. I think he needs a bit more aggression about him. I'd prefer a back 3, or Bruno and Mccrorie. Neither will happen though. I think 3-5-2 is way to go until we get a left winger. That’d mean Bruno being more central and DJ would have cover. MWell and Hearts will attack DJ and launch balls from our left into the back post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,530 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just now, STEPPS BOY said: I think 3-5-2 is way to go until we get a left winger. That’d mean Bruno being more central and DJ would have cover. MWell and Hearts will attack DJ and launch balls from our left into the back post. 100% Holt/Jack sitting, Dorrans pulling the strings and Pena getting into the box looks as if t could really work but Morelos clearly is a bigger goal threat with a partner. It's a no brainer for me that we try it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,177 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I see Forest fans have had enough of Warburtons inability to change games when they go behind Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluchoo 846 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 14 minutes ago, Gustav said: 100% Holt/Jack sitting, Dorrans pulling the strings and Pena getting into the box looks as if t could really work but Morelos clearly is a bigger goal threat with a partner. It's a no brainer for me that we try it. Im still not convinced with Dorrans and Jack together tbey both sit to deep...Holt played a bit further forward than Jack normally does. You saw the difference with Dorrans when he was the spare man and coukd get forward Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,530 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just now, bluchoo said: Im still not convinced with Dorrans and Jack together tbey both sit to deep...Holt played a bit further forward than Jack normally does. You saw the difference with Dorrans when he was the spare man and coukd get forward He's obviously been told to sit deep though, he should be given more license to get forward. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 The fact we conceded that amount of corners against St Johnstone tells me something’s not right in fact it’s more telling than not conceding from any of them Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dado'sMulls 2,617 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, K.A.I said: The fact we conceded that amount of corners against St Johnstone tells me something’s not right in fact it’s more telling than not conceding from any of them Aye, we need to tighten up on the wings still (especially the left), we need to stop players getting in a position to whip crosses in. Get the oppositions wide men pressed early or better yet fucking clatter them on the half way line. I do not hold much hope for Windass providing either mind you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, Dado'sMulls said: Aye, we need to tighten up on the wings still (especially the left), we need to stop players getting in a position to whip crosses in. Get the oppositions wide men pressed early or better yet fucking clatter them on the half way line. I do not hold much hope for Windass providing either mind you. The wide defensive areas are ridiculously bad twice St Johnstone whipped a ball across and John snoozing as it went behind him and same with Tav on the other side we need full backs more than anything and good ones Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer time 653 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Makes a change leaving the players up the field rather than everyone back inside the 18 yard box Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,110 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 4 hours ago, K.A.I said: The fact we conceded that amount of corners against St Johnstone tells me something’s not right in fact it’s more telling than not conceding from any of them I think it was just a freak run of corners, there were a few squigglers and deflections off our players. A couple of them weren't even corners they were goal kicks. I think the most telling thing is we defended them all and didn't concede. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace 3,556 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 For me, initially we were conceding corners as our FB's were actually stopping the crosses coming in, then when the run of corners started they kept coming as we were defending them well & clearing headers for more corners. As a unit, we should be clearing them for throw-ins or up the park but I don't think we ever looked like giving a goal from any corner that came in ... & that is absolute progress compared to last season where from 17 corners we would've conceded double figures. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper007 45 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 It was a bit of a joke giving away so many corners but a clean sheet nonetheless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Alves had a brilliant game at the back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raging blue 1972 894 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 2 hours ago, .Williamson. said: I see Forest fans have had enough of Warburtons inability to change games when they go behind he said after the game yesterday "It's not about possession - possession is irrelevant ." - funny how he kept spouting out possession stats when we got beat or drew Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronniescu 2,970 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 2 hours ago, .Williamson. said: I see Forest fans have had enough of Warburtons inability to change games when they go behind Their fan I heard on 606 was saying the majority of fans were reasonably happy that slow progress was being made & they were willing to give him a couple of transfer windows to improve things. I was thinking about phoning in to warn him. The guy also said they would have been right back into the game against Derby if MacKay hadn't missed a sitter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markem 7,251 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 That we conceded so many corners presents its own question however I agree with the OP - we wouldn't have defended 6 never mind 16 under Warburton. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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