surfsup2 1,533 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 3 hours ago, gmcf said: After his experiences with us and Newcastle , I would think MA probably has had enough of football . You wud think so but nothing surprises me these days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 3 hours ago, bluenose48 said: My concern was that his ownership of Newcastle stopped him buying more of our shares at the time. Yes I know he has sold the shares he had. But there is nothing to stop him buying a controlling stake in Rangers once he has sold Newcastle. Same as any business, willing buyer, willing seller - can't stop that. But I think ma is a fat cunt that has had his fill of owning football club/s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Wonder if his tanks are included in the sale? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 48 minutes ago, geronimoo said: Newcastle is a club with so much potential but just seem to keep failing, I'm sure they will find a buyer to keep up the tradition of fucking it all up. I don't agree. Where they are is now is as far as they will get, in my opinion. The club with a far higher potential is Leeds Utd; which again, is only my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
linfield1690 4,249 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Newcastle is a yoyo club they make money by getting rellegated and promoted it's where it's owners want them Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 minute ago, WATP-FOREVER said: Same as any business, willing buyer, willing seller - can't stop that. But I think ma is a fat cunt that has had his fill of owning football club/s. And if he took over and we stopped them doing 9 and got in the champions league? Would he still be a fat cunt? To get Newcastle to be a top 6 club you would have to pay £500m at least , £50million and we could be in the champions league. But he sold his shares on us around 10% if I remember, so you are probably right that he has had enough of football clubs. But we could not knock him back if he went for a takeover as we need investment badly as the current board have steadied the ship but that's it, every penny spent is our money the fans. He could basically invest the strips we buy along with season tickets sales season in season out, and that would be far better a deal than they would ever get across the city. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, plumbGER said: Wonder if his tanks are included in the sale? Could do with a couple in defence Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlydon81 245 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 8 hours ago, sasap said: Are you not aware MA sold his Rangers shares or am i missing something..? Very good point unfortunately! I was guilty of wishful thinking about Ashley being interested in turning us around - completely ignored this important fact :-( Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, Turnberry18 said: I don't agree. Where they are is now is as far as they will get, in my opinion. The club with a far higher potential is Leeds Utd; which again, is only my opinion. What does Elland rd hold compared to Newcastle? Newcastle have a.ways like Sunderland always under achieved. They are a bigger club than the likes of Chelsea but because of foreign owners it does not matter a bit about the club. Chelsea were always a mid table club at best and look at them now. The right investor like a Man City, Chelsea scenario then Newcastle would be a force to be reckoned with as it's never an easy place to go and win Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,208 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Dlydon81 said: Very good point unfortunately! I was guilty of wishful thinking about Ashley being interested in turning us around - completely ignored this important fact :-( Aye, he did so much for us first time around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyscott1963 18,018 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Fat Mick the thief is one of the reasons we are in the state we are in at this moment in time. Me personally would not wish this cunt anywhere near our club. He does not deserve to be associated with our club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
linfield1690 4,249 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Just seen on the news there he intends to sell by Xmas I hope his next Shite is a headgehog Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, Copland bear said: What does Elland rd hold compared to Newcastle? Newcastle have a.ways like Sunderland always under achieved. They are a bigger club than the likes of Chelsea but because of foreign owners it does not matter a bit about the club. Chelsea were always a mid table club at best and look at them now. The right investor like a Man City, Chelsea scenario then Newcastle would be a force to be reckoned with as it's never an easy place to go and win Elland Road? There is potential right there. I'm not going to debate with you too much on this, but Elland Road as it stands has space behind two of the sides that could be developed. The city of Leeds is more populated even than Manchester and far more than Newcastle; like Newcastle the city of Leeds only has one club but a is a far bigger city with a bigger surrounding area. You say Newcastle is bigger than Leeds? I disagree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Copland bear said: And if he took over and we stopped them doing 9 and got in the champions league? Would he still be a fat cunt? To get Newcastle to be a top 6 club you would have to pay £500m at least , £50million and we could be in the champions league. But he sold his shares on us around 10% if I remember, so you are probably right that he has had enough of football clubs. But we could not knock him back if he went for a takeover as we need investment badly as the current board have steadied the ship but that's it, every penny spent is our money the fans. He could basically invest the strips we buy along with season tickets sales season in season out, and that would be far better a deal than they would ever get across the city. He's got money - not sure if he's the right guy though - more questions than answers for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Turnberry18 said: You say Newcastle is bigger than Leeds? I disagree. It's 4 letters bigger. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, plumbGER said: It's 4 letters bigger. Can't argue with that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, Turnberry18 said: Elland Road? There is potential right there. I'm not going to debate with you too much on this, but Elland Road as it stands has space behind two of the sides that could be developed. The city of Leeds is more populated even than Manchester and far more than Newcastle; like Newcastle the city of Leeds only has one club but a is a far bigger city with a bigger surrounding area. You say Newcastle is bigger than Leeds? I disagree. Let's just say they should both be top 10 every season in England as they are both big clubs who's fans have suffered enough over the years Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, plumbGER said: It's 4 letters bigger. Thank you ? I blame the schools myself Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 13 minutes ago, WATP-FOREVER said: He's got money - not sure if he's the right guy though - more questions than answers for me. Not saying he is who I would want either , but after Murray then Whyte and now dodgy Dave maybe having to spend up to £11million on shares , he is never gonna do that and this could force his hand as we can't limp along like a wounded animal handing them the titles on a plate before even a balls kicked. He certainly has the money and who knows with these rich cunts as they don't live in the real world Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Copland bear said: Let's just say they should both be top 10 every season in England as they are both big clubs who's fans have suffered enough over the years And on that point we will agree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,430 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 The people that found owners for Chelsea & Man City have tried previously to sell Newcastle but struggled to get any interest. Given how much money it takes down there to get anywhere in the league I'd be surprised if they were sold anytime soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,453 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 37 minutes ago, linfield1690 said: Newcastle is a yoyo club they make money by getting rellegated and promoted it's where it's owners want them http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41564471 Interesting article about the fact championship clubs are losing huge sums of chasing promotion. Newcastle are a rare exception to that "Owners who accept the risk of relegation but also preserve the balance sheet face much better prospects if the club is indeed relegated, with Burnley, Norwich and Newcastle proving to be excellent examples," I'm not saying that I want cashley involved in us, and this a debate that's been had many times. But he's the only person that's been in and around our top table who knows how to manage companies sustainably and has demonstrated he knows how to run a football club relatively successfully. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 63,956 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Just now, linfield1690 said: Newcastle is a yoyo club they make money by getting rellegated and promoted it's where it's owners want them You're saying they make more by going down then back up than they would if they just stayed up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
linfield1690 4,249 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, Gman36 said: http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41564471 Interesting article about the fact championship clubs are losing huge sums of chasing promotion. Newcastle are a rare exception to that "Owners who accept the risk of relegation but also preserve the balance sheet face much better prospects if the club is indeed relegated, with Burnley, Norwich and Newcastle proving to be excellent examples," I'm not saying that I want cashley involved in us, and this a debate that's been had many times. But he's the only person that's been in and around our top table who knows how to manage companies sustainably and has demonstrated he knows how to run a football club relatively successfully. Belive it or not there's money to be made by getting rellegated in the epl Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
linfield1690 4,249 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Gustav said: You're saying they make more by going down then back up than they would if they just stayed up? Aye Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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