Any new manager, whoever it is

[EatDolphins 5,355]

Should be on a one year rolling contract until he's proven himself a winner. No more lumbering ourselves with sub par personnel requiring a payout to punt. 

[sassaaaa 11,406]

2 minutes ago, EatDolphins said:

Should be on a one year rolling contract until he's proven himself a winner. No more lumbering ourselves with sub par personnel requiring a payout to punt. 

Yip and nobody should have had any more than a two year contract over the last 5 years but we know it wont happen with the geniuses running the club.

[BlueboyG 5,238]

The problem is no manager will leave a club for a one year contract if they are on a better deal, they look for stability for their family's .

[K.A.I 36,183]

It’s a tricky one as doing that would limit the pool of decent managers willing to come. They want security like the rest of us.

[EatDolphins 5,355]

3 minutes ago, BlueboyG said:

The problem is no manager will leave a club for a one year contract if they are on a better deal, they look for stability for their family's .

 

3 minutes ago, K.A.I said:

It’s a tricky one as doing that would limit the pool of decent managers willing to come. They want security like the rest of us.

Some kind of performance clause then? 

[Perth_Campsie_Ger 17,995]

Is the rolling contract not what fucked us with McCoist? Thought they were a pain in the arse to get rid of?

[EatDolphins 5,355]

1 minute ago, Perth_Campsie_Ger said:

Is the rolling contract not what fucked us with McCoist? Thought they were a pain in the arse to get rid of?

Not sure what he was on but what I'm thinking if is a one year contract renewed or terminated at the end of the season.

[pcbear 10,913]

Have Willie Wills et al got a book open on our next manager yet?

[RFCRobertson 11,778]

For fucksake, be as well as having a revolving door as the entrance to Ibrox. 

Managers are allowed to have leeway when they first get in, you can't expect EVERY manager to get it right within the first year, building a stable team that plays to their style takes months to implement. Clubs are getting too good at kicking a manger out and as a result it causes instability and the people who really suffer is us the fans and the clubs records. Look at celtic, look how long they've had to build a stable team. Rodgers came in with an already established team that was good but lacking a decent manager to bring it to a better level. They also had 4+ years to build on that team or there's been players that have been there for a long time and are settled and know what they're doing. Look at Brown or Forrest as prime examples of this. 

Pedro needs time, simple as that and while he's here, rather than jump on him at the tiniest of things actually back him and trust he does know what he's doing. there's players still needing let go and players needing to get brought in to strengthen our squad. We don't have any depth and that's not Pedros fault. Look at celtic again, Griffiths comes off who comes on? Dembele. It's a straight trade, good striker for another good striker. They have this depth throughout their squad (except at defence and goals) and the reason they have that is because they have a squad that they were able to build on. They didn't need to go out and revise their squad at the summer, they only needed 3-4 players brought in to just add a little depth to it. Us on the other hand brought in about a full squad of players. 

Patience is key here, if we go out and get a new manager then we're simply giving celtic 10 in a row on a silver platter plate. Someone will inevitably come in and say "We're already doing that", except we're not we are making improvements we are in a better position than we were last year. Hell even last year we got fucked out the semi final. There is still the scottish cup mind you and the league isn't over. All it takes is celtic to drop points here and there (and they've dropped more points this season than they did last season), we play Aberdeen end of november and start of december, we win those two games (in addition to the upcoming games) and we're in second place, hell Aberdeen and celtic are playing tomorrow night. We're in a good position to grab second place, and the gap between us and celtic right now isn't as big as it was last season. There is a gap but it isn't as big. 

Baby Steps yes, but improvements are improvements. 

[STEPPS BOY 73,890]

2 minutes ago, RFCRobertson said:

For fucksake, be as well as having a revolving door as the entrance to Ibrox. 

Managers are allowed to have leeway when they first get in, you can't expect EVERY manager to get it right within the first year, building a stable team that plays to their style takes months to implement. Clubs are getting too good at kicking a manger out and as a result it causes instability and the people who really suffer is us the fans and the clubs records. Look at celtic, look how long they've had to build a stable team. Rodgers came in with an already established team that was good but lacking a decent manager to bring it to a better level. They also had 4+ years to build on that team or there's been players that have been there for a long time and are settled and know what they're doing. Look at Brown or Forrest as prime examples of this. 

Pedro needs time, simple as that and while he's here, rather than jump on him at the tiniest of things actually back him and trust he does know what he's doing. there's players still needing let go and players needing to get brought in to strengthen our squad. We don't have any depth and that's not Pedros fault. Look at celtic again, Griffiths comes off who comes on? Dembele. It's a straight trade, good striker for another good striker. They have this depth throughout their squad (except at defence and goals) and the reason they have that is because they have a squad that they were able to build on. They didn't need to go out and revise their squad at the summer, they only needed 3-4 players brought in to just add a little depth to it. Us on the other hand brought in about a full squad of players. 

Patience is key here, if we go out and get a new manager then we're simply giving celtic 10 in a row on a silver platter plate. Someone will inevitably come in and say "We're already doing that", except we're not we are making improvements we are in a better position than we were last year. Hell even last year we got fucked out the semi final. There is still the scottish cup mind you and the league isn't over. All it takes is celtic to drop points here and there (and they've dropped more points this season than they did last season), we play Aberdeen end of november and start of december, we win those two games (in addition to the upcoming games) and we're in second place, hell Aberdeen and celtic are playing tomorrow night. We're in a good position to grab second place, and the gap between us and celtic right now isn't as big as it was last season. There is a gap but it isn't as big. 

Baby Steps yes, but improvements are improvements. 

 

[K.A.I 36,183]

2 minutes ago, RFCRobertson said:

For fucksake, be as well as having a revolving door as the entrance to Ibrox. 

Managers are allowed to have leeway when they first get in, you can't expect EVERY manager to get it right within the first year, building a stable team that plays to their style takes months to implement. Clubs are getting too good at kicking a manger out and as a result it causes instability and the people who really suffer is us the fans and the clubs records. Look at celtic, look how long they've had to build a stable team. Rodgers came in with an already established team that was good but lacking a decent manager to bring it to a better level. They also had 4+ years to build on that team or there's been players that have been there for a long time and are settled and know what they're doing. Look at Brown or Forrest as prime examples of this. 

Pedro needs time, simple as that and while he's here, rather than jump on him at the tiniest of things actually back him and trust he does know what he's doing. there's players still needing let go and players needing to get brought in to strengthen our squad. We don't have any depth and that's not Pedros fault. Look at celtic again, Griffiths comes off who comes on? Dembele. It's a straight trade, good striker for another good striker. They have this depth throughout their squad (except at defence and goals) and the reason they have that is because they have a squad that they were able to build on. They didn't need to go out and revise their squad at the summer, they only needed 3-4 players brought in to just add a little depth to it. Us on the other hand brought in about a full squad of players. 

Patience is key here, if we go out and get a new manager then we're simply giving celtic 10 in a row on a silver platter plate. Someone will inevitably come in and say "We're already doing that", except we're not we are making improvements we are in a better position than we were last year. Hell even last year we got fucked out the semi final. There is still the scottish cup mind you and the league isn't over. All it takes is celtic to drop points here and there (and they've dropped more points this season than they did last season), we play Aberdeen end of november and start of december, we win those two games (in addition to the upcoming games) and we're in second place, hell Aberdeen and celtic are playing tomorrow night. We're in a good position to grab second place, and the gap between us and celtic right now isn't as big as it was last season. There is a gap but it isn't as big. 

Baby Steps yes, but improvements are improvements. 

 that’s you, KeyzerSouze and BP9 in the one day all posting that desperate pish instead of being honest with yourselves 

do you actually believe every word of that or do you just feel embarrassed you can’t admit he’s a shite manager, we need rid but you’ll stick to a ridiculous narrative that we’ve improved and we can’t have a revolving door?

[Essandoh 21,207]

I have absolutely no confidence of the Board bringing in a capable manager nor do I have any confidence that Caixinha will get us second place. celtic are marching to another unbeaten treble and we’re in this situation. Again.

[Bears r us 30,791]

We are a clusterfuck from King and down and I have no idea when things will get better. 

[KeyserSoze 14,531]

2 minutes ago, K.A.I said:

 that’s you, KeyzerSouze and BP9 in the one day all posting that desperate pish instead of being honest with yourselves 

do you actually believe every word of that or do you just feel embarrassed you can’t admit he’s a shite manager, we need rid but you’ll stick to a ridiculous narrative that we’ve improved and we can’t have a revolving door?

Like your narrative is to rinse and repeat.

Like I said, we all want the very best for our club and some are offering a different opinion to the usual boring stuff. It’s worth considering as we plough through managers at an unsustainable rate. 

[RFCRobertson 11,778]

Just now, K.A.I said:

 that’s you, KeyzerSouze and BP9 in the one day all posting that desperate pish instead of being honest with yourselves 

do you actually believe every word of that or do you just feel embarrassed you can’t admit he’s a shite manager, we need rid but you’ll stick to a ridiculous narrative that we’ve improved and we can’t have a revolving door?

I've told you before that if I ever feel that Pedro has been shite I'll openly admit to it. Managerial tactics only go so far, how the game plays out is up to the players. 

and as I've said before to get rid of Pedro right now would just repeat last season all over again. There is no doubt about it, we're in a good position right now. Last season we were third in the league with 15 points a game in hand (said game resulted in a draw which dropped us to 5th with 16 points). Right now we're 2 points better off than last year with a game in hand. We win against Killie then we go up to 20 pts and we're still in third, more of a goal difference (possibly even second).

There is improvements over last season. Can't you see that? This time last year we were fucked out the league cup, so how is this year any different? Cause we didn't get fucked out by celtic in the final? Even if we did beat motherwell, it wouldn't be any big song and dance and it'd just be onto the next game and Pessimistic loyal would just grumble about something else while they hope Rangers fail just to justify their thoughts and opinions. 

People's hatred of Pedro is actually turning into wanting Rangers to lose and do badly. That worries me more than anything. 

[gersandy 594]

38 minutes ago, EatDolphins said:

Should be on a one year rolling contract until he's proven himself a winner. No more lumbering ourselves with sub par personnel requiring a payout to punt. 

The problem comes when we do find a decent manager another club can come in  and nick him for no compensation fee.

[EatDolphins 5,355]

Just now, gersandy said:

The problem comes when we do find a decent manager another club can come in  and nick him for no compensation fee.

Let's be honest here. Nobodies coming in for any manager we'll get. 

[ger4life_1872 29,460]

That manager then has problems when he's asking players too join a project / commit too long term contracts when he might be gone after 1

[EatDolphins 5,355]

14 minutes ago, RFCRobertson said:

For fucksake, be as well as having a revolving door as the entrance to Ibrox. 

Managers are allowed to have leeway when they first get in, you can't expect EVERY manager to get it right within the first year, building a stable team that plays to their style takes months to implement. Clubs are getting too good at kicking a manger out and as a result it causes instability and the people who really suffer is us the fans and the clubs records. Look at celtic, look how long they've had to build a stable team. Rodgers came in with an already established team that was good but lacking a decent manager to bring it to a better level. They also had 4+ years to build on that team or there's been players that have been there for a long time and are settled and know what they're doing. Look at Brown or Forrest as prime examples of this. 

Pedro needs time, simple as that and while he's here, rather than jump on him at the tiniest of things actually back him and trust he does know what he's doing. there's players still needing let go and players needing to get brought in to strengthen our squad. We don't have any depth and that's not Pedros fault. Look at celtic again, Griffiths comes off who comes on? Dembele. It's a straight trade, good striker for another good striker. They have this depth throughout their squad (except at defence and goals) and the reason they have that is because they have a squad that they were able to build on. They didn't need to go out and revise their squad at the summer, they only needed 3-4 players brought in to just add a little depth to it. Us on the other hand brought in about a full squad of players. 

Patience is key here, if we go out and get a new manager then we're simply giving celtic 10 in a row on a silver platter plate. Someone will inevitably come in and say "We're already doing that", except we're not we are making improvements we are in a better position than we were last year. Hell even last year we got fucked out the semi final. There is still the scottish cup mind you and the league isn't over. All it takes is celtic to drop points here and there (and they've dropped more points this season than they did last season), we play Aberdeen end of november and start of december, we win those two games (in addition to the upcoming games) and we're in second place, hell Aberdeen and celtic are playing tomorrow night. We're in a good position to grab second place, and the gap between us and celtic right now isn't as big as it was last season. There is a gap but it isn't as big. 

Baby Steps yes, but improvements are improvements. 

I'm not reading that mate.

 

[gersandy 594]

Just now, EatDolphins said:

Let's be honest here. Nobodies coming in for any manager we'll get. 

I never suggested that. What the OP was saying though was that we should only give one year contracts. 

The board genuinely thought they’d unearthed a gem in both Warbs and Pedro, so gave them both long terms. That’s the worrying thing for me, the people at the top seem clueless.

[graeme_4 34,458]

42 minutes ago, EatDolphins said:

Should be on a one year rolling contract until he's proven himself a winner. No more lumbering ourselves with sub par personnel requiring a payout to punt. 

The reality is that we might as well not even bother, because Mourinho or Pep couldn’t win the league on our current budget. 

And when we inevitably lose to the filth, we’ll all call for his head anyway. 

[RFCRobertson 11,778]

4 minutes ago, EatDolphins said:

I'm not reading that mate.

Cause you know i'm right  

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

10 minutes ago, Essandoh said:

I have absolutely no confidence of the Board bringing in a capable manager nor do I have any confidence that Caixinha will get us second place. celtic are marching to another unbeaten treble and we’re in this situation. Again.

You actually give a fuck about being second?! The scum will march on to 10iar whether we are second or not.

Please explain how we stop the scum getting 10iar. Is it a new manager? Even the most brilliant manager, or will he require something else per say?

I will take PepG tomorrow, but does he have all the tools to stop 10iar?

Can you see why a new manager, even the best, on it's own isn't the answer?

You do know what it will take as most on here also do, despite all the pathetic deflections?

 

 

 

[cushynumber 25,178]

 

[The Ibrox Derry 8,904]

23 minutes ago, Bears r us said:

We are a clusterfuck from King and down and I have no idea when things will get better. 

This in a nutshell