RFC55 107,787 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Just now, Billy1984 said: I've watched afew of their games and he's started every one mate. On average he's only not played the last 16 mins of each game. Which by Warburton standard is brilliant as he's normally made 3 subs by the60th minuteĀ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hume 12,683 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 I was a big supporter of BM ..... and would have preferred if he had stayed and developed into a more reliable talent .... but he didn't and it's all if's but's and maybe's now .... the bottom line is he is gone now and we need to move on and try and getĀ talented players who want to be at our Club and as was quite obvious in BM's case .... be much more consistent. Those reasonsĀ to me wereĀ his biggest failings with us ... and it was never more apparent at the end of W&W's tenure where his loyalties lay and they were not at Rangers. I wish him well as he was a good wee player ... but I don't think we got what we were due for him ....that of course is down to his agent and our well known historic lack of bargaining powers. His agent is a dick like the majority of them and is talking shite now ..... like the majority of them ..... shockeroonie!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giffnockger 4,840 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 45 minutes ago, DBBTB said: His agent was on a podcast talking about the whole lead up to him leavingĀ and he said Forest were willing to pay a lot more for him than they did because they had banked 15 million from selling a player and Warburton & Weir both knew the player well. I know he blew hot and cold and his lack of heart infuriated people but IMOĀ his talent was clear to see and I think the fact we sold him and haveĀ had to rely on Josh Windass as his replacement wasĀ shocking management (i know we didnāt get Walker but Iām not convinced he would have been an upgrade either). Weāve seen this thread a hundred times whenĀ players (especially bad ones)Ā leave and do well elsewhere butĀ McKay has 4 goals and 7 assists from 15 games so farĀ for Forrest and I do think we will end up seeing the decision to sell him as cheaply as we did as a massive mistake. I have no doubt getting rid of him was the right move. Never prepared to put in 100% for us! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy1984 6,314 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: On average he's only not played the last 16 mins of each game. Which by Warburton standard is brilliant as he's normally made 3 subs by the60th minuteĀ watched them v hull a couple of weeks back and sure enough the 60th minute double sub happened.Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 107,787 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Just now, Billy1984 said: watched them v hull a couple of weeks back and sure enough the 60th minute double sub happened.Ā He cost us a few points doing it. Change for changes sake etcĀ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,453 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Yes to selling him, but we should've got a bit more money for him.Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briton 394 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 No. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy1984 6,314 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Just now, Rfc52 said: He cost us a few points doing it. Change for changes sake etcĀ Definitely, that and also they lost 2 goals against hull and had to hold on when the game should have been out of sight, so similar to us under him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 107,787 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Just now, Billy1984 said: Definitely, that and also they lost 2 goals against hull and had to hold on when the game should have been out of sight, so similar to us under him. His principles are admirable but he really needs to have the players to.do it. His signings for the premier league were absolutely atrociousĀ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy1984 6,314 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Just now, Rfc52 said: His principles are admirable but he really needs to have the players to.do it. His signings for the premier league were absolutely atrociousĀ Agree, the first 6 months under him were really enjoyable. Trouble is teams suss him out and no plan B and players who maybe don't fancy a battle means his teams fall short. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 We definitely could've, and should've, got more for him but yes, we were right to get rid. He didn't want to be here and was far from consistent. A player who shows flashes of being talented and nothing more won't help us get to where we want to be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 42 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: He's started 13Ā games out if 14......... He's also been subbed off 9 times :wink: So your post was incorrect. NaturallyĀ Apologies , out of the 18 games he's played he's had four games of 90 minutes , and either been subbed on /off or kept on the bench for the other 14. Superstar statistics , wee prick was never good enough for us like so many of past and present managers signings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 I think we could have got marginally more but I think when a squad was being transitioned the way ours was, you need guys off the wage bill to get others on it - and you need it done quickly. Much the same if you go to webuyanycarĀ - you know you will get less than selling private - but its quick and hassle-free. Ā Not fussed in the slightest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 hour ago, DBBTB said: Thatās what I remember too but his agent said that wasnāt the case and he made it be knownĀ four times that McKayĀ was happy to stay but thatās probably BS too.Ā You never know for sure with these stories. Everybody has their own version of events and they are usually positivelyĀ skewed to suit the person telling them. Ā An agent saying a player was happy to stay..... what he really means is unless he can get more money elsewhereĀ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 107,787 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 minute ago, sassaaaa said: Apologies , out of the 18 games he's played he's had four games of 90 minutes , and either been subbed on /off or kept on the bench for the other 14. Superstar statistics , wee prick was never good enough for us like so many of past and present managers signings. He's played 14. Use their site for your stats. It's easierĀ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,913 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Capeable of brilliance fleetingly, the poor games outweighed tbe good by a margin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Just now, Rfc52 said: He's played 14. Use their site for your stats. It's easierĀ You seem to be struggling , read above statistics they are 100% accurate . Add to the fact the wee prick didn't even want to stay at the club , we are well shot of him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,062 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 minute ago, sassaaaa said: You seem to be struggling , read above statistics they are 100% accurate . Add to the fact the wee prick didn't even want to stay at the club , we are well shot of him. To be fair, you're the one who originally said he was a 'sub' and not been 'subbed'.Ā He's been in the first eleven 14 times, which suggests he's a key player for their team - regardless of whether or not he's included in Warburton's predictable 60th minute substitutions or not.Ā We should have sold him, but should have got a hell of a lot more than we did.Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 107,787 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, sassaaaa said: You seem to be struggling , read above statistics they are 100% accurate . Add to the fact the wee prick didn't even want to stay at the club , we are well shot of him. Go to their websiteĀ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Just now, Leeds_Bear said: To be fair, you're the one who originally said he was a 'sub' and not been 'subbed'.Ā He's been in the first eleven 14 times, which suggests he's a key player for their team - regardless of whether or not he's included in Warburton's predictable 60th minute substitutions or not.Ā We should have sold him, but should have got a hell of a lot more than we did.Ā He's had 4 full games since he went to them out of 18. Tells you everything you need to know. Some on here idolise the prick , he's shite and has always been shite apart from the one game in ten he does a shift. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMotor 2,208 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Probably one of the most naturally gifted players I have seen at the club in the last 20 years and one of my favourites to watch even on his off days. However, I think selling him was the right thing for us and him. I think there was a mental issue there somewhere that was affecting his confidence/performances, which, combined with his contract situation, meant he had to go. A shame though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose244 2,618 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Had talent, but went missing far too often. The club was too big for him bottom line!Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Rfc52 said: Go to their websiteĀ Don't need to genius , the stats i put up are spot on............ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 107,787 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Just now, sassaaaa said: Don't need to genius , the stats i put up are spot on............ It's easier using their official ones....... Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingtom80 166 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā glad he's gone,but we should have got more Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā money for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.