Prso's headband 35,278 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, Wearethepeople72 said: That means the way the fixture list pans out has too much of an impact on what you get and don't get but. For example, why should I not be in the pot for Aberdeen and Hibs just because I got allocated Dundee when I would rather have had Aberdeen or Hibs? Am sure everyone would rather have Aberdeen or Hibs lol. Aye let the supporters pick what games they want and make it even harder in the CCCS lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,662 Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 58 minutes ago, Prso's headband said: Am sure everyone would rather have Aberdeen or Hibs lol. Aye let the supporters pick what games they want and make it even harder in the CCCS lol. He's right in a way though. If you got.hamilton and thistle twice that's you fucked for even a chance of hibs and aberdeen.. The system as is the now should just be an all in ballot. Apparently buses are going.to be struggling as well. So even being a member of a bus who run a points system may have to ballot their members. It's a shite system. I liked it better in div 3 You got.nesrly every game Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wearethepeople72 1,845 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Gustav said: Doesn't really work like that and nor should it. As others said join a bus that travels to away games. I know it doesn’t, it was just an example of how you’re basically at the mercy of the fixture list. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wearethepeople72 1,845 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Prso's headband said: Am sure everyone would rather have Aberdeen or Hibs lol. Aye let the supporters pick what games they want and make it even harder in the CCCS lol. That’s not what I’m saying at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,278 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 11 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: He's right in a way though. If you got.hamilton and thistle twice that's you fucked for even a chance of hibs and aberdeen.. The system as is the now should just be an all in ballot. Apparently buses are going.to be struggling as well. So even being a member of a bus who run a points system may have to ballot their members. It's a shite system. I liked it better in div 3 You got.nesrly every game That’s just purely down to numbers though. If you got Hamilton and Thistle already then this time aye you’ve no chance of Aberdeen or Hibs but we still play them again when you have a chance in the ballot. FWIW I’ve had Hearts, St Johnstone and Ross County so I’m not in the line for Aberdeen or Hibs but I’d fully expect 95% of those on it to be in with a shout for the tarriers as the allocation will have evened itself out by then. Edit Its a shame the buses struggle for Aberdeen and Hibs but it’s a numbers game and I’m sure if Aberdeen start to falter again their attendances will drop and our allocation will probably double again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,662 Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just now, Prso's headband said: That’s just purely down to numbers though. If you got Hamilton and Thistle already then this time aye you’ve no chance of Aberdeen or Hibs but we still play them again when you have a chance in the ballot. FWIW I’ve had Hearts, St Johnstone and Ross County so I’m not in the line for Aberdeen or Hibs but I’d fully expect 95% of those on it to be in with a shout for the tarriers as the allocation will have evened itself out by then. No i.defo get that. But like when people looked like they were missing the final v hibs as those who got the semi final were not expected to be entered into ballot until those who missed the semi were sorted. Now that meant people were to be punished as they were lucky in the semi final ballot. Which is shite. It's a ballot and everyone should be in imo for every game. I've had hearts and Motherwell and Hamilton. So look like I'll be out of any chance for either game. When second round of fixtures come.round I'll probably get one of them. They do need a better system imo but it is tough to implement. I mind like kai said getting my season's worth of allocation a few years back but then teams can't decide if we are getting our usual allocation or if they're cutting it so that doesn't help the club sort out allocations Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Enclosure Row N 2,820 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: It's a ballot and everyone should be in imo for every game. Going with your theory of everyone in every game. If for example - I got 19 away league games, maybe four away league cup games, a couple of Scottish cup fixtures, semis and finals - and you got absolutely fuck all, nothing, nada, zilch, hee-haw, nowt - would you still want the same system to work? With your way - it would be entirely possible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,383 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just now, East Enclosure Row N said: Going with your theory of everyone in every game. If for example - I got 19 away league games, maybe four away league cup games, a couple of Scottish cup fixtures, semis and finals - and you got absolutely fuck all, nothing, nada, zilch, hee-haw, nowt - would you still want the same system to work? With your way - it would be entirely possible. Nah it wouldn't Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,278 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: No i.defo get that. But like when people looked like they were missing the final v hibs as those who got the semi final were not expected to be entered into ballot until those who missed the semi were sorted. Now that meant people were to be punished as they were lucky in the semi final ballot. Which is shite. It's a ballot and everyone should be in imo for every game. I've had hearts and Motherwell and Hamilton. So look like I'll be out of any chance for either game. When second round of fixtures come.round I'll probably get one of them. They do need a better system imo but it is tough to implement. I mind like kai said getting my season's worth of allocation a few years back but then teams can't decide if we are getting our usual allocation or if they're cutting it so that doesn't help the club sort out allocations If it went back to your bottom paragraph nobody could really complain then but until clubs decide their allocation this is the way it’s going to be. The clubs are hamstrung by their fans as they would no doubt want to give us the maximum possible but their fans out of spite won’t want it. If you take 9k on CCCS and apply that to the tarriers aberdeen and hibs then you should theoretically get one tarrier game and another of the twice we play hibs and aberdeen. Maybe they should do it like that then ballot the rest! But there are probably flaws in there as well. If people are in for every game that creates a serious problem where you could have 3k getting 10 games a season and the rest getting 5-6. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wearethepeople72 1,845 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 A better way to do it would maybe be to start it fresh for the games that are harder to come by. For example you could have Aberdeen, Hibs and Hearts when they play at Tynecastle, the games that are harder to come by. The ballot starts fresh for the first game against those three, then you could take out those allocated for the next game. The way they do piggery tickets seems fine, everyone gets one of the two games, the remainder get balloted, that’s fine. Then you could use the current system for the rest of the games. Because in theory right now someone could have Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs, while someone else could have Hamilton, St Johnstone and Partick but it’s seen as fair because it’s the same amount of games when it’s really not. This way everyone would get roughly the same amount of the bigger games and the same amount of the lesser games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,662 Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 11 minutes ago, East Enclosure Row N said: Going with your theory of everyone in every game. If for example - I got 19 away league games, maybe four away league cup games, a couple of Scottish cup fixtures, semis and finals - and you got absolutely fuck all, nothing, nada, zilch, hee-haw, nowt - would you still want the same system to work? With your way - it would be entirely possible. Tbh aye I'd take it. I don't see why it can be a "ballot" but then people are excluded. It's not really a ballot. I lost out on both tarriers in semi and hibs final. My fault as i.never ticked the box for priority semi.and finals. But I don't believe I should have been put in a privileged position for the final as i.missed the semi. It's not those who were successfuls fault. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 2 hours ago, East Enclosure Row N said: Going with your theory of everyone in every game. If for example - I got 19 away league games, maybe four away league cup games, a couple of Scottish cup fixtures, semis and finals - and you got absolutely fuck all, nothing, nada, zilch, hee-haw, nowt - would you still want the same system to work? With your way - it would be entirely possible. The odds of that would be extremely high even if possible in theory Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy1984 6,314 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 They missed a trick by not introducing a points system during the lower league years imo. Any change now would be very hard to implement so the current system is probably here to stay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, Billy1984 said: They missed a trick by not introducing a points system during the lower league years imo. Any change now would be very hard to implement so the current system is probably here to stay. Two championship seasons seemed like you were getting the away tickets most weeks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,662 Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, Billy1984 said: They missed a trick by not introducing a points system during the lower league years imo. Any change now would be very hard to implement so the current system is probably here to stay. Defo mate looks like it. I was on cccs in 3rd division but then due to circumstances wasn't back on till championship 2nd season iirc. But would've been better if those who were everywhere between 3rd and prem got rewarded . There's no real good system though Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,662 Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 1 minute ago, simplythebest said: Two championship seasons seemed like you were getting the away tickets most weeks Bar Dumbarton Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,595 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Personally I'd do first come first serve Each person on the scheme gets emailed 24-48hrs before tickets go on sale either go in and buy, Do it online or over the phone. 1 per Rangers number Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Rfc52 said: Bar Dumbarton Yup I did get allocated them one of the times though Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy1984 6,314 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just now, simplythebest said: Two championship seasons seemed like you were getting the away tickets most weeks It did, a proper points system during those years and before could have made distribution of tickets since we came back up fairer for those of us who followed back up from the bottom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just now, KingKirk said: Personally I'd do first come first serve Each person on the scheme gets emailed 24-48hrs before tickets go on sale either go in and buy, Do it online or over the phone. 1 per Rangers number Bit horrific if people's work situation means they can't get online or on the phone for a bit... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy1984 6,314 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: Bar Dumbarton never got one there, was in the home end once because the guy who runs our bus knows willie gibson who played for them then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,344 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, KingKirk said: Personally I'd do first come first serve Each person on the scheme gets emailed 24-48hrs before tickets go on sale either go in and buy, Do it online or over the phone. 1 per Rangers number That would be shite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,662 Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 1 minute ago, simplythebest said: Bit horrific if people's work situation means they can't get online or on the phone for a bit... Aye not everyone has access to phones or comp etc. Guys offshore and the likes would struggle Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just now, Rfc52 said: Aye not everyone has access to phones or comp etc. Guys offshore and the likes would struggle Given the phone queues and online traffic it may not even be enough for folk to try during a lunch break or something either Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy1984 6,314 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 people camping outside the ticket office the night before like they do at tin pot clubs like hibs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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