K.A.I 36,183 Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 hour ago, psb07158 said: McTominay is a good, young footballer who has played at a higher level in the few first team games he’s had than the majority of our squad. Hasn’t looked out of place in Europe for United and they just gave him a new contract I’m sure. He’d be the physical presence in midfield people were expecting from Jack. People said that about Rossiter at Liverpool ability wise Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,436 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Tbf McTominay has actually played in Europe under Jose this season he isn’t a kid at under 20s level whose closest appearance has been on the bench Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 McTominay ? Wasn't O'Halloran one "mick" to many ? already ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 And yet hivees get a city loanee and he looks a cracking player. I've no doubt, given how many have failed with us, it's more about us as a club and how we use them than it is about the player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 31 minutes ago, K.A.I said: People said that about Rossiter at Liverpool ability wise But did Rossiter actually play for Liverpool in the UCL and hold his own? The only reason we ever got Rossiter was because he is quite clearly crocked. McTominay is a young boy in Mourinho’s plans at OT for the future cos like I said, he trains with the first team, has played this season and just got a new contract. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGovanIniesta 1,000 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I watch every United game and I can confirm McTominay is gash. Mourinho famously hasn’t produced any of his own youth yet and he’s supposed to be his guy, it’s caused a bit of an uproar that he prefers McTominay over Pereira, Fosu-Mensah, Tuanzebe or any youth player with actual potential. Sort of signings we should aim for on loan is Patrick Roberts level loans from teams like United such as the above, canny get away with loaning in bang average young players just because it’s cheap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwallowsHisOwnSpunk 7,798 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 If they are of a Weiss, Roberts, Bartley type level of player then loans are a great idea when it’s Nemane, Dalcio and crew then there is no point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, psb07158 said: But did Rossiter actually play for Liverpool in the UCL and hold his own? The only reason we ever got Rossiter was because he is quite clearly crocked. McTominay is a young boy in Mourinho’s plans at OT for the future cos like I said, he trains with the first team, has played this season and just got a new contract. Hold his own isn’t a glowing endorsement mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, TheGovanIniesta said: I watch every United game and I can confirm McTominay is gash. Mourinho famously hasn’t produced any of his own youth yet and he’s supposed to be his guy, it’s caused a bit of an uproar that he prefers McTominay over Pereira, Fosu-Mensah, Tuanzebe or any youth player with actual potential. Sort of signings we should aim for on loan is Patrick Roberts level loans from teams like United such as the above, canny get away with loaning in bang average young players just because it’s cheap. Roberts is apparently a 1.5 to 2m a year loanee. Miles outwith our financial reach. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGovanIniesta 1,000 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 18 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: Roberts is apparently a 1.5 to 2m a year loanee. Miles outwith our financial reach. He was already bought for 12m though so that doesn’t surprise me, whereas if we scout early and go for players like Tuanzebe, even take Reece Oxford when we went for him last season then that’s our level, not McTominay. Mourinho favours Rashford out wide over United’s best player Martial purely because he works hard and follows orders, same goes for Fellaini in midfield or Mkhitaryan at 10 over Mata, McTominay is nowhere near the level of anyone Mourinho’s loaned/bombed out, that’s the types we should have on our radar (Pereira, Tuanzebe, Gomes, Fosu-Mensah, Roshaun-Williams, Borthwick-Jackson) just before they break onto the scene and cost 5 times as much to bring in. seen a few folk say ‘they play for man united we can’t afford to scoff at that’ Federico Macheda anyone? Big difference between a bang average six foot four Scottish midfielder and some of the BPL youth from places like Holland who are technically or physically five years above their actual age. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Knowing his family I’d be surprised if he ends up at Ibrox. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,112 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 4 hours ago, piperpete said: It’s what your willing to pay that decides what standard of loan player you get, That Roberts at celtic would have cost more than all our loans added together , if we go down the loan route then only one and a player who will make an impact as Roberts has, not four players who will feature in Rangers trivia quizzes in years to come with “ can you name thus players picture?” Hivs have got another from City - Barker, I think. No brain but can run better than Windass - and gave the tramps a few headaches. Seems like more of a prospect than Nemane & won’t have been anywhere near the Roberts money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piperpete 3,186 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 19 minutes ago, HG5 said: Hivs have got another from City - Barker, I think. No brain but can run better than Windass - and gave the tramps a few headaches. Seems like more of a prospect than Nemane & won’t have been anywhere near the Roberts money. That’s my point mate, if you want a top youngster you pay top youngsters wonga if you go down our route you take a gamble with a player in the last year of his contract who needs to shine to get a move . Playing for us gives plenty tv free adverts for such players rather than staying in a reserve side and disappearing from the game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,112 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 hour ago, piperpete said: That’s my point mate, if you want a top youngster you pay top youngsters wonga if you go down our route you take a gamble with a player in the last year of his contract who needs to shine to get a move . Playing for us gives plenty tv free adverts for such players rather than staying in a reserve side and disappearing from the game. Obviously, Roberts comes at some cost. Given the value for money provided by so many of our signings, someone like that might have been worth a shot. Pains me to see there are others out there, like Barker, who seem a lot more capable than the one we ended up with. That last corner ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 4 hours ago, psb07158 said: But did Rossiter actually play for Liverpool in the UCL and hold his own? The only reason we ever got Rossiter was because he is quite clearly crocked. McTominay is a young boy in Mourinho’s plans at OT for the future cos like I said, he trains with the first team, has played this season and just got a new contract. He also a big lad about 6ft 4 and able to handle himself in games we have too many wee boys in our team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Smile said: He also a big lad about 6ft 4 and able to handle himself in games we have too many wee boys in our team. Matt Crooks was 6ft 5 and came from uniteds youth team Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,577 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Ethan lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFM 3,809 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 No more loans, enough of it. I sincerely hope Mark Allen's vision of Rangers isn't one where we become a club Premiership sides loan their youngsters to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 Just now, RDFM said: No more loans, enough of it. I sincerely hope Mark Allen's vision of Rangers isn't one where we become a club Premiership sides loan their youngsters to. Mark Allen is the biggest waste of a wage yet Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 33 minutes ago, Siwel said: Matt Crooks was 6ft 5 and came from uniteds youth team Mourinho, i'm sure would have given him a game if he was at United in October against Benfica Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Just now, Smile said: Mourinho, i'm sure would have given him a game if he was at United in October against Benfica Mourinho is a fraud, Portuguese Tony Pulis Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 8 hours ago, ben51 said: McTominay has had a few chances under Jose which is saying something. Hopefully it's not just loans this January though. Nope, we are going to get a bottle of buckie in too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Siwel said: Mourinho is a fraud, Portuguese Tony Pulis What I'm really saying is I cannot see us getting him in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,877 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 No loan player is going to give it 110% they don't give a fuck about us as we don't pay their wages and they know they will be back home in 6 month. its fucking ridiculous loaning kids like that. If you loan its for experience and established talent not some punt on a Rossiter type. clubs fucked Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Underwhelming as fuck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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