Gaz52 11,837 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Fronted by Kenny Miller, the similarities between PLG, Ferguson and Miller Caixinha is staggering. The foreign players are being alienated, we've got a world class defender in Bruno Alves who can't perform and doesn't look happy. As soon as Caixinha is gone then we start to see Wilson, Holt etc getting games every week when they're simply not Rangers class and are dragging the rest of the squad down with them. I don't care if Holt and Wilson had 1 good game this season, they're not good enough to play for Rangers, neither is Miller (anymore) We badly need a manager in to kick people's balls and get rid of the cancerous cliques and division within the place. It's too much of a pals' act from the top to the bottom and it's ruining us, we could buy 3 or 4 good quality players and they'll struggle to do anything when players like Miller are throwing toys out the pram and creating a division in the squad because he's rightly not starting games anymore. How dare Pedro drop Miller? The guy never stood a chance the minute he done that. Look across the city, everyone of them are singing from the same hymn sheet, there's not even as much as a rumour coming from them about fall outs etc. Look at our squad under Smith, Souness etc, no-one would ever go against the grain with those guys or they'd be out. We really are a shambles at the moment, Murty, Miller, Wilson, Holt etc have all been there since the Championship and have a sense of entitlement because of this, we badly need rid of these characters who can't deliver on the pitch and are creating division off of it - don't believe for a minute they want the best for Rangers, they want the best for themselves Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,248 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 How do you know they're being alienated? There are cluliques in every multi-national squad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,454 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Bruno Alves has not and never will be world class, Wilson came in because he had tae, same as Holt, and he was our best player in the first two games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 King Kenny is a legend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Also, how the fuck can you say Murty is entitled? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, Gaz52 said: Fronted by Kenny Miller, the similarities between PLG, Ferguson and Miller Caixinha is staggering. The foreign players are being alienated, we've got a world class defender in Bruno Alves who can't perform and doesn't look happy. As soon as Caixinha is gone then we start to see Wilson, Holt etc getting games every week when they're simply not Rangers class and are dragging the rest of the squad down with them. I don't care if Holt and Wilson had 1 good game this season, they're not good enough to play for Rangers, neither is Miller (anymore) We badly need a manager in to kick people's balls and get rid of the cancerous cliques and division within the place. It's too much of a pals' act from the top to the bottom and it's ruining us, we could buy 3 or 4 good quality players and they'll struggle to do anything when players like Miller are throwing toys out the pram and creating a division in the squad because he's rightly not starting games anymore. How dare Pedro drop Miller? The guy never stood a chance the minute he done that. Look across the city, everyone of them are singing from the same hymn sheet, there's not even as much as a rumour coming from them about fall outs etc. Look at our squad under Smith, Souness etc, no-one would ever go against the grain with those guys or they'd be out. We really are a shambles at the moment, Murty, Miller, Wilson, Holt etc have all been there since the Championship and have a sense of entitlement because of this, we badly need rid of these characters who can't deliver on the pitch and are creating division off of it - don't believe for a minute they want the best for Rangers, they want the best for themselves 5 With Alves suspended for Murty's first game then injured for two of the following three games, Cardoso out injured and Dorrans also missing, there have not really been many alternatives. EDIT: Murty only joined us last year. He wasn't with the club in the championship so not sure how he's 'entitled' based on that. Having spoken to Murty on a few occasions the idea he's only doing what's best for himself is bollocks. He wouldn't have come here to start with if that was the case and would have stayed at Norwich where he had a nice cushy gig already. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geronimoo 1,474 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Just by looking at the club its plain to see there is a toxic undertow with imho Miller at the front of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Holt, Wallace, Miller and whilst he was here, Halliday. Those 4 offer the club nothing and need removed asap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,890 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 There’s cliques in every squad, the secret is to get a manager that ALL players respect. Holt and Miller were terrible last night but Candeias/Herrera et al were just as bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Our issue is everyone is fucking rotten. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 I don’t see any obvious cliques just a raft of talentless players and a ruderless ship guiding them oh and incompetent, lying custodians overseeing the lot of it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza27 15,283 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 The players are just mince it’s as simple as that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
linfield1690 4,249 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Players are shite and the board need removed fucking scunnered tbh Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 The board need to go they are not fit for purpose the rot starts at the top. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Get some cunt in who has a steeliness and a bit of managerial savvy in, even til summer. Sort a defensive system and pick the best players for it. Prioritise players who aren't shitebags or duds. Who will not be pushed around, even if currently in the youths. Get Miller to fuck. Do that, we'll pick up more points more consistently. Win more and we'll be in a better place, as will the players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
five stars 1,621 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 I think you might be right. Strip Miller of the captaincy, he's not good enough to be on the park, never mind to be captain. Wallace has been out for so long and was never captain material anyway. Make big Bruno captain, he's a natural leader with vast experience. And possibly Ryan Jack as vice captain. If Miller throws the toys out the pram (again) send him to train with the youth team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 1 minute ago, five stars said: I think you might be right. Strip Miller of the captaincy, he's not good enough to be on the park, never mind to be captain. Wallace has been out for so long and was never captain material anyway. Make big Bruno captain, he's a natural leader with vast experience. And possibly Ryan Jack as vice captain. If Miller throws the toys out the pram (again) send him to train with the youth team. 2 Tbh, he's come across as nothing but a big shitebag since joining us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,801 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 There's not one there Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,516 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Stopped reading at world class Bruno Alves Mon tae fuck Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1mgg 3,766 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 I would just be happy getting rid of windass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger_onimo 20,488 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 57 minutes ago, Gaz52 said: Fronted by Kenny Miller, the similarities between PLG, Ferguson and Miller Caixinha is staggering. If the situation is so similar then we should be getting back to winning ways under a new manager with Miller in the team? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,454 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 12 minutes ago, five stars said: I think you might be right. Strip Miller of the captaincy, he's not good enough to be on the park, never mind to be captain. Wallace has been out for so long and was never captain material anyway. Make big Bruno captain, he's a natural leader with vast experience. And possibly Ryan Jack as vice captain. If Miller throws the toys out the pram (again) send him to train with the youth team. Scottish fitbaw's too physical for him but mon we'll make him captain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Reynolds 3,359 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Who exactly is in this clique, and how does one join? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Alves isn't world class but is still international class, he hasn't been great but this wee narrative developing that he has been rotten is not true either. Miller is pish, his wee cameo at Murrayfield means fuck all when he has been woeful the rest of the season. Holt comes in, injects a wee bit of energy but has been gash the last 2 games. Wilson had 1 good game, last 2 games he has made mistake after mistake, last night taking his eye off the ball at the opening goal, never good enough. We need a manager who commands respect of all the players and who isn't afraid to drop underperforming players without worrying about wee rebellions occurring. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Just now, plumbGER said: Alves isn't world class but is still international class, he hasn't been great but this wee narrative developing that he has been rotten is not true either. Miller is pish, his wee cameo at Murrayfield means fuck all when he has been woeful the rest of the season. Holt comes in, injects a wee bit of energy but has been gash the last 2 games. Wilson had 1 good game, last 2 games he has made mistake after mistake, last night taking his eye off the ball at the opening goal, never good enough. We need a manager who commands respect of all the players and who isn't afraid to drop underperforming players without worrying about wee rebellions occurring. Using last night's game as an example. Alves, Cardoso and Wallace all injured. Who do you play ahead of Danny Wilson? Aidan Wilson and Ross McCrorie together? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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