gsa 3,906 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Although yesterday was one of his better games, I personally don't think Jack is good enough to be a centre midfielder for us. Added to that is the fact Tavernier gives us pace and energy going forward but is pretty awful defensively. Would Jack plaything right back and Tavernier further forward be the answer? Apparently Jack was competent as a right back for Scotland v Holland. Providing everyone is fit I'd go for this set up- Fod Jack Alves Cardoso or Wilson John Tav Holt Mccrorie Candieas Dorrans Morales That to me, looks a solid enough team. Another centre back and perhaps centre midfielder would be ideal but even without them, that's a team capable of putting together a run of wins. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,470 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 No. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EatDolphins 5,355 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Yer back then Ally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMRFC 4,780 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Okay so Jack and Tavernier were both outstanding in both Aberdeen games and now you want to change their positions? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsa 3,906 Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, EatDolphins said: Yer back then Ally. Not much gardening to be done once the frosts begin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Found a system that seems to suit our players.......lets change it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,470 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Also, Mccrorie is fine where he is, and Windass shouldn't be dropped. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsa 3,906 Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, EMRFC said: Okay so Jack and Tavernier were both outstanding in both Aberdeen games and now you want to change their positions? Jack is a poor midfielder and Tavernier can't defend. He evidence for both of those things being true fat outweighs anything they did in two games. Two games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsa 3,906 Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, ForeverAndEver said: Also, Mccrorie is fine where he is, and Windass shouldn't be dropped. Mccrorie would still be playing where he is. The deep centre midfielder. Windass is not good enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 He was strolling that midfield yesterday and was my motm until he got sent off. Mccrorie has done great in the DM role in the last 2 games and given great protection. This has allowed Tav, John and other midfielders the cover needed to attack. He's also helped Jack with the midfield workload and what a difference it has made. We've lost one goal in 2 games now, from a stunning free kick. I'd be loathe to change anything tactically. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Heart and Hand 8,949 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,470 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, gsa said: Mccrorie would still be playing where he is. The deep centre midfielder. Windass is not good enough. He's most certainly good enough in this team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, gsa said: Jack is a poor midfielder and Tavernier can't defend. He evidence for both of those things being true fat outweighs anything they did in two games. Two games. Jack didn’t misplace a pass the second game against Aberdeen and bullied their midfield Tav is a right back, I think he’d be quite ineffectual as a winger because he would not get the same space he does as a right back running into space from deep to create chances. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,530 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Both have been outstanding in this system the last 2 games, why change it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, gsa said: Mccrorie would still be playing where he is. The deep centre midfielder. Windass is not good enough. Windass has been good the last couple of games, although I’d like us to we can’t drop him just because we don’t like him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Tav Jack and Windass all getting it despite being some of our best players yesterday ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Heart and Hand 8,949 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Wednesday night was probably the best team performance I can remember in over a year, maybe even a better team performance than we had at the beginning of Warburtons time here, it suits the players and shouldn't be changed If Murty is still in charge vs Ross Cty he'd be daft to change it and would be rightly criticised if he did Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Wouldn't change a thing. 2 of our best performances of the season against the best team we'll need to play (outwith the filth). Tav has become an excellent RB. Jack has come on to a game being allowed to play a bit further forward. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,833 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 If you had posted that before the two Aberdeen games, it would have been a pretty good shout but tougher to change when things are good Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsa 3,906 Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: Tav Jack and Windass all getting it despite being some of our best players yesterday ? They're hardly "getting" it. Jack is a very average player and Tav can't defend, regardless of the last two games. This forum is incredible. The consensus seems to be that "everything is amazing" because we won twice against Aberdeen. Look where we are in the league. Lookat our results this season. Tav will have more defending to do away at Hibs and celtic and Jack will be playing against tougher opponents in the middle of the park. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC16 226 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, gsa said: Jack is a poor midfielder and Tavernier can't defend. He evidence for both of those things being true fat outweighs anything they did in two games. Two games. Jack ran the game yesterday Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsa 3,906 Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, bluenoz said: If you had posted that before the two Aberdeen games, it would have been a pretty good shout but tougher to change when things are good Tougher games to come away at Hibs and celtic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsa 3,906 Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, RFC16 said: Jack ran the game yesterday One game. He hasn't "ran" many this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, gsa said: Tougher games to come away at Hibs and celtic. Tougher games to come at Hibs? They're below Aberdeen in the league and were lucky to beat Thistle at the weekend Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Jack is not "a very average player". He's growing into the shirt and I see the type of footballer we've not had since Ferguson. Bossed the last two games, and has been very decent before then too. Very comfortable and assured in possession and rarely gives the ball away, and as players lift their game around him, Jack will become a fulcrum. He's always available for a pass and is comfortable taking the ball in any situation...exactly what we've been needing. Jack will become a massive player for us and a future captain....and doesn't have the pace to be a right back anyway. Tavernier is in his best position, and get's unfairly criticised. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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