East Enclosure Row N 2,799 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 There was a phrase used in the Souness / Butcher era (and probably long before that?) of "Fortress Ibrox" - meaning that the defence should be solid, impermeable, unbreakable. My own opinion is that this doesn't happen when Danny Wilson is in the team. I think Bruno Alves is solid - a wall, and we defend much better when he plays. Any coincidence that he was out when Dundee and Hamilton beat us? Danny Wilson not a first pick for me. As a few have said - we need to lighten the wage bill due to existing contracts of others. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 63,953 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Definitely. More than good enough to be a solid 3rd choice and I think he could even be a first team player for us if he had someone decent alongside him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,062 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Gustav said: Definitely. More than good enough to be a solid 3rd choice and I think he could even be a first team player for us if he had someone decent alongside him. Is he? I'd be interested to see his win percentage as a Rangers CB in the SPFL. Can't be more than 50%? Our 3rd choice CB should be as good as our first two - to push them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Enclosure Row N 2,799 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Gustav said: Definitely. More than good enough to be a solid 3rd choice and I think he could even be a first team player for us if he had someone decent alongside him. What chance do youths have of breaking through if we carry third choice players? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 63,953 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Just now, Leeds_Bear said: Is he? I'd be interested to see his win percentage as a Rangers CB in the SPFL. Can't be more than 50%? Our 3rd choice CB should be as good as our first two - to push them. No idea what his win record is. Good luck getting a first team quality player in to sit on the bench. Just now, East Enclosure Row N said: What chance do youths have of breaking through if we carry third choice players? So you don't have squad members? Just first team players and youths? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue 9,282 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Similar to the Bates thread, he’s played well of late. He isn’t good enough to be first pick to take us to the next level but he is far batter backup than Bates is. We can’t get rid of the entire squad so he is a squad filler that should be retained. If he wants first team football then he should be sold, not released and picked up by a Hearts, Aberdeen, etc for nothing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,062 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, Gustav said: No idea what his win record is. Good luck getting a first team quality player in to sit on the bench Haha, what?! Seriously? Other teams manage it, why shouldn't we? It's up to the player to make sure they're not sat on the bench. That's my whole point. Currently we don't have the level of quality to push the starting 11. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 34,986 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 I like him tbf. He’s a good CB and people forget he’s won 3 trophies with us, not many in the squad have won any trophy never mind 3. All he literally needs to do is go back to when he played with us the first time and treat every game as seriously as he treats Aberdeen, tarriers etc. When he’s on his game he can be a great CB he just needs consistent concentration Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,524 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Depends who we can get in. He shouldn't be good enough for us. I'd prefer to replace him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy1984 6,314 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 I would give him another deal. A good enough player to be one of four cb's in our squad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,498 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 No. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Alves n Wilson our best CB pairing imo , Wilson always shows up in the big games and just needs to eradicate the casualness from his game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,062 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: He played well in both games against Aberdeen, Hearts and Partick. That's 4 from 6. Even the other two games I think people over blame him for things, McCrorie solely at fault for the opener against Hamilton. Wilson wasn't at fault for either Dundee goal IMO. It seems we get beat by a combination of bad finishing and other individual mistakes and Wilson takes the blame for it, absolutely mental. Wilson should get a new deal as 3rd of 4th Choice CB if the wages are not too high. He didn't play well in the Partick game IMO, every chance for Partick came (bar one from what I can remember) from Wilson stepping up and poor positioning. I accept he would be good enough as back up but only if he drops his wages, he's not done anything to earn a new deal. It's players like Wilson which will hold us back from progressing and winning the league. We need to be getting better quality in and out the starting 11. I ask myself if I'd be happy with Danny Wilson being first choice centre back for 4 or 5 games in a row while our 'first-choice' was out injured and the answer is I wouldn't. He's had plenty of opportunities to prove himself at the club and rarely shown the ability required for a title winning team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMotor 2,208 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Yes. After that header at the weekend, I'd medically induce a concussion, give him the number 9 shirt off Miller's back and tell him he's Derek Johnstone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 4 hours ago, sassaaaa said: I said it going by some of the shite i am reading in here. Only shite was posted by you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat 4,511 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Certainly good enough to be 3rd choice cb imo. Plays well alongside Alves. If we do move him on we should be looking for a fee. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 70,939 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 We'll need to be buying someone first because he's a starter for us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,430 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 How many still think he should be getting a new contract? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,141 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 No. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 On 05/12/2017 at 20:29, jjbscotty12 said: I know his contract is up in the summer,would you give him a new deal ? After that performance at Kilmarnock I'd hunt him to borrow, we need much better than what Wilson offers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the old guard 2,291 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 His last two performances have been woeful, if he gets a new deal we'll be accepting mediocrity for a while yet. He's very inconsistent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilly86 700 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 If there's one player who typifies the physical and mental weakness throughout the club, it's him. Not a coincidence that all of these diddy teams with fat, immobile strikers can beat us up with long balls aimed right at him, knowing he'll shite it. So no. He's not mediocre, just crap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxric72 199 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Good bump! Far too slow and casual. How many times yesterday did he just hump the ball up the park and immediately we lose possession? Fucking pish!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ready1873 3,864 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 He's shit and has been since he came back. Far too slow and constantly caught flat footed or on the wrong side of strikers. Was brutal yesterday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 81,468 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Class player, I'd get him tied in to at least another 10 year deal Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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