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Is it possible to succeed in Europe with poor domestic opposition?

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Although I think rogers is a gold plated dud and far from the top manager the great unwashed take him to be history does show that more often than not both the Old Firm tend to be  successful together in Europe. The best example of this of course was May 1967 when both were in European finals but even a few years later we won in Barcelona only 2 years after they had been in the Milan final. Indeed even the UEFA finals in the noughties were only 5 years apart so I guess the truth is be careful what you wish for declan :whistle:

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The likes of Basel manage it and I wouldn't imagine their league is very strong 

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6 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said:

The likes of Basel manage it and I wouldn't imagine their league is very strong 

Correct and spent 10million less on their squad than celtic

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Olympiacos play in the least competitive league in the world and have did alright for themselves considering how far they can possibly go given they’re not that big of a club.

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7 hours ago, ger4life_1872 said:

The likes of Basel manage it and I wouldn't imagine their league is very strong 

They're about 5 points behind Young Boys in 2nd :lol: 

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9 minutes ago, Sasa'onlyPLGsuccess'Papac said:

Yeah a few Greek teams have reached the quarter finals a few years ago as did a Cypriot.

If you're a good team you're a good team regardless of domestic opposition.

The third best team in Cyprus easily beat the (at the time) second best team in Scotland, sums up for me how shite this league has become.

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6 hours ago, Bronzy said:

They're about 5 points behind Young Boys in 2nd :lol: 

There's a League Semtex could be in .

They'd love to be right up their **** 5 pts behind 🤔

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There are some decent teams that do relatively well in Europe while playing in mediocre domestic leagues, there isn't a league anywhere as uncompetitive as ours though. The general standard in Scotland now is truly shocking and its proved every summer in the European preliminary rounds. The 2nd, 3rd and 4th best teams in Greece, Cyprus, Switzerland etc beat our lot year after year. The team that won our league at a canter last year got beat at home easily from an average Anderlecht team. Anderlecht though play in a competitive league, not a very good league mind but a competitive one.

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16 hours ago, ger4life_1872 said:

The likes of Basel manage it and I wouldn't imagine their league is very strong 

Basel are a team I always enjoy watching on CL nights. They’re never going to go very far but they’re a team who play to their strengths.

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22 hours ago, ger4life_1872 said:

The likes of Basel manage it and I wouldn't imagine their league is very strong 

I think our league in recent years has been absolutely dire

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7 hours ago, MurrayWilson said:

There are some decent teams that do relatively well in Europe while playing in mediocre domestic leagues, there isn't a league anywhere as uncompetitive as ours though. The general standard in Scotland now is truly shocking and its proved every summer in the European preliminary rounds. The 2nd, 3rd and 4th best teams in Greece, Cyprus, Switzerland etc beat our lot year after year. The team that won our league at a canter last year got beat at home easily from an average Anderlecht team. Anderlecht though play in a competitive league, not a very good league mind but a competitive one.

We probably think it's better than it is because we are so close to it and Scotland is pretty geographically isolated from the rest of Europe ... just look at the teams who have eliminated our top clubs in recent years before most of us are even back our summer holidays to get a true perspective on the standard of Scottish football 

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39 minutes ago, Thermopylae said:

I think our league in recent years has been absolutely dire

Oh I agree 100% on that ,but even in a poor league you can do relatively well in Europe if your a decent team 

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It depends on attitudes. Hearing Brenda and the mhedia stating just how proud celtic have done Scottish football after getting pumped just gives the players a license to do fuck all. 

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18 hours ago, Bronzy said:

The third best team in Cyprus easily beat the (at the time) second best team in Scotland, sums up for me how shite this league has become.

We can't even tempt their shit manager, sums it all up for me as well.

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I don't think it is,  as much as they won't want to admit it they need us to challenge them and push them domestically..

And vice versa.. 

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Rosenborg of Norway always seemed to be in the group stages of the champions league a while ago.

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