bluenoz 30,814 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 There is no creativity in that midfield. Long gone are the days when we had players like Ferguson, Mendes or McCall. Players that could single handedly change a game. Windass, Candeias, Holt and Jack can all run like fuck but they lack basic skills like passing a ball five yards to feet. They have no vision and the amount of times they give possession away is astounding. Kids like Barjonas & Thompson etc may be young but they have more skills than those four combined. They are not the solution either but midfield wins or loses games more often than not and to me that is the root of our problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
googglebot 4,736 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 What midfield? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,714 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I would love to dominate a decent team's midfield. It's not happening, I know, but I really would love to know what it's like again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewhitesettler 2,711 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I'd love for our players to find some decent form. They keep asking for consistency from referee's. I'd like some consistency from them, in a good way Some of them have the ability, they just don't show it enough. The 3-0 sheep game is what we want in every game, not 1 in 10 games. Just when we look as if we've turned the corner, they go and get beat, at home, by St Johnstone, fucking infuriating so it is. It's like being on a roller coaster ride, the ups are great, but the downs are bad. I was starting to look forward to the game against the taigs,I'm now back to dreading it again.?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Far too often our midfield looks powder puff. We need a couple of solid, no nonsense, ball winners, that'll help us stamp our authority on games. I watched an interview of SAF regarding Gazza. During that interview SAF spoke about having 'three lions' at the centre of the pitch. I think he knew, even decades ago, the importance of grit and a 3 man midfield. We need guys in there who will fight for us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gersandy 594 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: I would love to dominate a decent team's midfield. It's not happening, I know, but I really would love to know what it's like again. We can’t dominate shit teams. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivybank 4,580 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Every manager gets their tactics spot on against us,which tells you a lot about our players,their pish that they can't overcome pub players Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Weakest part of our team yet look at this list of names Kranjar, Pena, Dorrans, Rossiter, McCrorie, Jack, Windass, Barjonas, Holt, Candeias, Dalcio, O'Halloran, Halliday, Nemane and Burt. 15 fucking players on our books who are midfielders. 15! I would bin 11 of them tmrw morning. Without even batting an eye lid. Dreadful squad management. Not sure this board could raise a fee for any of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the brown brogue 1,909 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 It would help it we had someone in there capable of scoring, or at the very least consistently making the goalkeeper work, from distance. Teams can afford to give us plenty of time and space as invariably we'll fanny about then try and play it out wide or backwards and give the ball away. If we had a genuine goal threat in the middle of the park at least it would give the opposition something to think about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westenclosure2008 797 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I think going forward a midfield of Dorrans, Jack and McCrorie should be good enough for most games but it’s the creative player at the top of the diamond that we are sorely missing. We have no creativity in that team whatsoever. Kenny Miller gets stick for dropping so deep but you seen Morelos do it a lot today which tells it’s own story. Some decent wide players wouldn’t go amiss either. Candieas started the season well but has benn rotten for the last half dozen games but we have no competition for his place. 1 or 2 Creative forward players is my wish for January. I’m not holding my breath though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, the brown brogue said: It would help it we had someone in there capable of scoring, or at the very least consistently making the goalkeeper work, from distance. Teams can afford to give us plenty of time and space as invariably we'll fanny about then try and play it out wide or backwards and give the ball away. If we had a genuine goal threat in the middle of the park at least it would give the opposition something to think about. See the amount of times we try and walk the ball in with they wee stupid fucking combination plays outside the box! They always break down and we end up getting caught on the break. At least if we have a shot from distance and it goes wide or over we can regroup and get back into position. If you don't buy a ticket you can't win the lottery. Just had a flashback there to McLeish saying his players didn't like shooting. When he was questioned why we didn't shoot more from outside the box. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,888 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 At home against teams who park the bus, there’s no need for Jack, Holt and McCrorie to be in starting 11. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewhitevanman 1,619 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Why did he bring on Niko after we lost a goal? The guy offers nothing He’s brutal now he was some player years ago but without being over dramatic he rossiter and Alves are stealing a wage from us that could be used to bring in a couple of decent players. I thought I was going to have a heart attack when him and Alves were just making a cunt of everything they tried. I don’t know if anyone else notice that when 3-1 down he tried to do a World Cup chip over to holt who just touched it with the top of his and it went out for a by kick then niko starts clapping as if it was good that holt TRIED to get his head on it. We are a shambles and murty is getting hung out to dry by our board. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, bluewhitevanman said: Why did he bring on Niko after we lost a goal? The guy offers nothing He’s brutal now he was some player years ago but without being over dramatic he rossiter and Alves are stealing a wage from us that could be used to bring in a couple of decent players. I thought I was going to have a heart attack when him and Alves were just making a cunt of everything they tried. I don’t know if anyone else notice that when 3-1 down he tried to do a World Cup chip over to holt who just touched it with the top of his and it went out for a by kick then niko starts clapping as if it was good that holt TRIED to get his head on it. We are a shambles and murty is getting hung out to dry by our board. Niko had an absolute nightmare. He genuinely looks finished. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewhitevanman 1,619 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Tenerife Bear said: Niko had an absolute nightmare. He genuinely looks finished. I agree 100% mate that game said he was finished to me and we need to get rid Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the brown brogue 1,909 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, Tenerife Bear said: See the amount of times we try and walk the ball in with they wee stupid fucking combination plays outside the box! They always break down and we end up getting caught on the break. At least if we have a shot from distance and it goes wide or over we can regroup and get back into position. If you don't buy a ticket you can't win the lottery. Just had a flashback there to McLeish saying his players didn't like shooting. When he was questioned why we didn't shoot more from outside the box. I said it myself in the match thread, teams always seem to score 20-odd yard crackers against us. Simple fact is though goals from outside the box are ten a penny for most other teams in world football, it just that because we never see it from Rangers player it always seems like such a surprise when teams do it to us. Its probably also the reason that Foderingham concedes so many from outside the box, he's clearly not used to dealing with many long range efforts in training. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Niko should never have had the pleasure of playing for the club , said at the time it was a ridiculous signing .......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, the brown brogue said: I said it myself in the match thread, teams always seem to score 20-odd yard crackers against us. Simple fact is though goals from outside the box are ten a penny for most other teams in world football, it just that because we never see it from Rangers player it always seems like such a surprise when teams do it to us. Its probably also the reason that Foderingham concedes so many from outside the box, he's clearly not used to dealing with many long range efforts in training. See when you watch the shooting drill in the warm up, the players shooting is awful. Hardly anyone hits the target never mind score a goal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewhitevanman 1,619 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 39 minutes ago, sassaaaa said: Niko should never have had the pleasure of playing for the club , said at the time it was a ridiculous signing .......... U did indeed and I’m sure it was u I said to that if we could keep him fit he could be a cracking player for us? How wrong was i? This is probably a bit strong and maybe my anger at today is making me feel like this but I seriously am starting to dislike the likes of niko rossiter Alves Hodson and the rest of the wasters at the club that don’t ever try and right their wrongs or even push themselves to get fit. We really had the chance to put some pressure on they cunts with a decent home game and again our players blew it, simply not good enough. Anyway a wee rant but I totally agree with ur post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,714 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 3 hours ago, gersandy said: We can’t dominate shit teams. Yeah there's that too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I'm beginning to wonder if there's any point to all of this. We don't have the players, nor the manager to make it better anyway. We are just repeating ourselves and it's not going to make them better. Before we went down we could say we were under par after a bad result, but I'm beginning to think this is the best this team can do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 That midfield 3 of Jack, Holt and Candies isn’t THAT much better than Black, Templeton and McLeod in the lower leagues imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Just now, K.A.I said: That midfield 3 of Jack, Holt and Candies isn’t THAT much better than Black, Templeton and McLeod in the lower leagues imo This is now what I'm thinking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsa 3,906 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Turnberry18 said: I'm beginning to wonder if there's any point to all of this. We don't have the players, nor the manager to make it better anyway. We are just repeating ourselves and it's not going to make them better. Before we went down we could say we were under par after a bad result, but I'm beginning to think this is the best this team can do. I agree with this. They didn't have a nightmare game, their attitude wasn't particularly poor, they weren't too casual or lax. They just played to their ability. They did it last Saturday and on Wednesday night and we got lucky. The playing staff have been grossly mismanaged and we're now left with a squad full of players who aren't good enough. We don't have a single good ( not great, just good) centre midfielder. That's a shocking position to be in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, gsa said: I agree with this. They didn't have a nightmare game, their attitude wasn't particularly poor, they weren't too casual or lax. They just played to their ability. They did it last Saturday and on Wednesday night and we got lucky. The playing staff have been grossly mismanaged and we're now left with a squad full of players who aren't good enough. We don't have a single good ( not great, just good) centre midfielder. That's a shocking position to be in. Look at the midfield we had a few short years ago; it's heartbreaking to really put it all in perspective. We are now very ordinary. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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