Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Just now, TheKingObv said: Lol. Being an amateur ref doesn't make you any more qualified to judge the honesty of top refs. It does - ive trained with John Beaton, willie collum etc etc and seen the commitment theyve put in to get to the top of refereeing Can you expand on your claim WITH EVIDENCE that Beaton has an agenda against Rangers? Sorry my turn to laugh now Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, eejay the dj said: No disrespect mate but that means nothing Because your honest doesn't mean these muppets are We will just have to agree to disagree. I think Beaton had a very very poor game against hibs in August. But biased? No chance - absolutely none - not him not any of them. Up to standard? Thats another debate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vision 16,725 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 11 hours ago, eejay the dj said: well I must be in the para club also mate . These 2 are bought and paid for IMO Honest refs ? No chance Anyone seeing Thompson in the St johnstone v Scum game last year would know what I mean The guy has been cheating for years Since he apologised to them 7/8 years ago Keep an eye on 1:09 secs, gies Samaras a we tap on the stomach, as if saying unlucky Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T.G 10,773 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Beaton is a fucking cheat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,639 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said: It does - ive trained with John Beaton, willie collum etc etc and seen the commitment theyve put in to get to the top of refereeing Can you expand on your claim WITH EVIDENCE that Beaton has an agenda against Rangers? Sorry my turn to laugh now You're a nothing referee mate. They aren't gonna come out to a nobody like yourself and state that they are biased I haven't claimed they have an agenda against us. I'm just saying you're no more qualified to judge than anyone else who watches our games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, TheKingObv said: You're a nothing referee mate. They aren't gonna come out to a nobody like yourself and state that they are biased I haven't claimed they have an agenda against us. I'm just saying you're no more qualified to judge than anyone else who watches our games. I am a nothing referee but a referee nonetheless who has observed some of the refs now like Collum, Beaton, Muir, etc when they were nothing. But they worked their butts off, made sacrifices to get to the top and it's not so they could throw football matches. That goes for any team who claim refs have it in for them. This is a hypothetical point but a genuinely honest point. If i was in my seat at Ibrox at the next OF game and was asked to be an asst running the line I would do it to the best of my ability. I know that sounds strange but it's honestly what I'd do - i suppose just like Scott McDonald did on helicopter sunday when had a motherwell shirt on or John Brown scoring a hat-trick against Rangers with a dundee shirt - you just do your best Referees are not corrupt and in the final analysis you have no evidence. That makes your opinion - NOTHING! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,639 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said: I am a nothing referee but a referee nonetheless who has observed some of the refs now like Collum, Beaton, Muir, etc when they were nothing. But they worked their butts off, made sacrifices to get to the top and it's not so they could throw football matches. That goes for any team who claim refs have it in for them. This is a hypothetical point but a genuinely honest point. If i was in my seat at Ibrox at the next OF game and was asked to be an asst running the line I would do it to the best of my ability. I know that sounds strange but it's honestly what I'd do - i suppose just like Scott McDonald did on helicopter sunday when had a motherwell shirt on or John Brown scoring a hat-trick against Rangers with a dundee shirt - you just do your best Referees are not corrupt and in the final analysis you have no evidence. That makes your opinion - NOTHING! You're an absolute zoomer. I haven't once said they're corrupt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, TheKingObv said: You're an absolute zoomer. I haven't once said they're corrupt. Apologies, i tbought you were intimating refs were dishonest ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 81,999 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said: Referees are not corrupt and in the final analysis you have no evidence. That makes your opinion - NOTHING! What about Mark Clattenburg mate? Hes came out lately and said he completely fucked a game involving Spurs and Chelsea so he didn't have to take the heat from Spurs fans for ruining title aspirations. He's a league above the shite in Scotland Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 81,999 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Dean the fucking mind reader Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said: I am a nothing referee but a referee nonetheless who has observed some of the refs now like Collum, Beaton, Muir, etc when they were nothing. But they worked their butts off, made sacrifices to get to the top and it's not so they could throw football matches. That goes for any team who claim refs have it in for them. This is a hypothetical point but a genuinely honest point. If i was in my seat at Ibrox at the next OF game and was asked to be an asst running the line I would do it to the best of my ability. I know that sounds strange but it's honestly what I'd do - i suppose just like Scott McDonald did on helicopter sunday when had a motherwell shirt on or John Brown scoring a hat-trick against Rangers with a dundee shirt - you just do your best Referees are not corrupt and in the final analysis you have no evidence. That makes your opinion - NOTHING! No offence mate but, get to the top? They get paid £1k to referee a game once and week and still have to work a full time job the rest of the time Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, .Williamson. said: What about Mark Clattenburg mate? Hes came out lately and said he completely fucked a game involving Spurs and Chelsea so he didn't have to take the heat from Spurs fans for ruining title aspirations. He's a league above the shite in Scotland Thats a clusterfuck of a situation. He shouldgt have done the interview nor got tangled up in explaining how he ''managed the game' - he's now claiming he was misrepresented. He's left an awful mess behind him but he's not dishonest - just stoopid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 81,999 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said: Thats a clusterfuck of a situation. He shouldgt have done the interview nor got tangled up in explaining how he ''managed the game' - he's now claiming he was misrepresented. He's left an awful mess behind him but he's not dishonest - just stoopid. Give over Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Captain Hilts said: No offence mate but, get to the top? They get paid £1k to referee a game once and week and still have to work a full time job the rest of the time No offence mate but you have no idea the time and commitment these guys make in their prime years to get to that 1k a game. Or maybe you do -- please share your vast knowledge of refereeing - you could probably cover that in a tweet ????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, .Williamson. said: Give over Coronation Street ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said: No offence mate but you have no idea the time and commitment these guys make in their prime years to get to that 1k a game. Or maybe you do -- please share your vast knowledge of refereeing - you could probably cover that in a tweet ????? The vast majority of them are rank rotten, so I'm finding it hard to admire the time and commitment they put in to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 81,999 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said: Coronation Street ??? Why are you acting like you know what each individual referee thinks within their own head just because you did a bit of training alongside them? You've just tried to tell me Clattenburg wasn't dishonest durin that game, despite him saying recently he was. There were bannings and fines handed out after that game due to how fucking terrible he decided to be Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Captain Hilts said: The vast majority of them are rank rotten, so I'm finding it hard to admire the time and commitment they put in to it. I agree with that - they are as poor an elite set of refs that i can remember Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: Why are you acting like you know what each individual referee thinks within their own head just because you did a bit of training alongside them? You've just tried to tell me Clattenburg wasn't dishonest durin that game, despite him saying recently he was. There were bannings and fines handed out after that game due to how fucking terrible he decided to be To answer your first question as respectfully as i can and be succint - refs are not dishonest Second question - how he 'managed' that game was completely incorrect possibly misguided (some thing to say about a guy who reffed the Euros and Champions League final in the same summer) but thats what he gets for that fucked up interview - but not dishonest Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLawMan 6,240 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Must admit im with Deanz on the cheating bit also. Its quite simple in Scotland. Gers fans think everyone is pro mank. Mank fans think everyone is pro Gers. All non Mank and Gers fans think everyone is pro Mank and Gers. We cant all be right. For every decision we show that goes against us, i bet Brendan and Dimothy could find an equally bad one that went against them. Some times i dont even think its the refereeing standard thats bad. Ive seen decisions where the replay has shown it from 6 different angles and Ive been 100% sure im right only to see it from a 7th angle and think, oops, shit, he got it right. The game is so fast nowadays that they make decisions on the spot and of course they will get it wrong. Offsides another thing that people moan about that linesmen are cheats because after Sky has went through 3 slow motions and a pause from a ball that was played from 50 yards away it shows the guys toe was offside and the linesman missed it. It doesnt stop me moaning about refs in the heat of the moment stuff by the way but I dont believe any of them deliberately go out to give decisions against us or them or anyone and ultimately risk a good pay nowadays. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 27 minutes ago, TheLawMan said: Must admit im with Deanz on the cheating bit also. Its quite simple in Scotland. Gers fans think everyone is pro mank. Mank fans think everyone is pro Gers. All non Mank and Gers fans think everyone is pro Mank and Gers. We cant all be right. For every decision we show that goes against us, i bet Brendan and Dimothy could find an equally bad one that went against them. Some times i dont even think its the refereeing standard thats bad. Ive seen decisions where the replay has shown it from 6 different angles and Ive been 100% sure im right only to see it from a 7th angle and think, oops, shit, he got it right. The game is so fast nowadays that they make decisions on the spot and of course they will get it wrong. Offsides another thing that people moan about that linesmen are cheats because after Sky has went through 3 slow motions and a pause from a ball that was played from 50 yards away it shows the guys toe was offside and the linesman missed it. It doesnt stop me moaning about refs in the heat of the moment stuff by the way but I dont believe any of them deliberately go out to give decisions against us or them or anyone and ultimately risk a good pay nowadays. Really? (First one was a yellow card a piece, the second was given as a foul to the Aldi taigs.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLawMan 6,240 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, Captain Hilts said: Really? (First one was a yellow card a piece, the second was given as a foul to the Aldi taigs.) Stokes should have walked twice in that game. The first one was ridiculous. No doubt about it in my mind. Doesnt change my opinion though. Hibs had a stick on penalty the other week. We got away with it. Collum gave a penalty against us last season that was 2 yards outside the box. It went against us. Ross County player deliberately dived against the manks and got a penalty that was as bad as ive seen in years. Shit happens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,494 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 6 hours ago, TheLawMan said: Stokes should have walked twice in that game. The first one was ridiculous. No doubt about it in my mind. Doesnt change my opinion though. Hibs had a stick on penalty the other week. We got away with it. Collum gave a penalty against us last season that was 2 yards outside the box. It went against us. Ross County player deliberately dived against the manks and got a penalty that was as bad as ive seen in years. Shit happens. Like you say mate penalty decisions are hit and miss, refs angle, speex etc, however to claim that beaton is completely honest with they two examples above going against us, is highly dubious, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,148 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Beaton is a cheating fenian bastard end of story Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,428 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Just now, eejay the dj said: Sometimes I wonder about you Awww am flattered pal but am not that way inclined. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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