kingtom80 166 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 in my thinking I would have made,motm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdave30 8,698 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Played well today, If he could defend as well as he can go forward consistently he would be in the EPL but if my Gran had wheels she would be a bike. Heres hoping he carries his form into the new year against the sheep and ross county. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsden bear 2,376 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Tav was awesome. Turning into a proper Rangers player Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlands plater 16,958 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Thought he was immense today. His defending is improving, no coincidence Murty was a right back? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 minute ago, harlands plater said: Thought he was immense today. His defending is improving, no coincidence Murty was a right back? His defending has improved since the start of the season long before Murty took over. He's been one of our best players this season. He's easily the best attacking full-back in Scottish football. Criminally underrated by our support. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 minute ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: His defending has improved since the start of the season long before Murty took over. He's been one of our best players this season. He's easily the best attacking full-back in Scottish football. Criminally underrated by our support. I would have got shot of him on several occasions but he's worked hard on his defending and won me over this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the old guard 2,321 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Brilliant today, put teirney in the shade, if that cunts worth 30 mil, what's tav worth? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGOH 2,344 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Unbelievable today, best player on the park by some distance Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 IF, he played like that every week he wouldn’t be playing for us. BUT, he doesn’t yes he can go forward but he’s in the back 4 and too many times he gets caught ball watching, way out of position and loses his man at the back post. But then let’s not get in the way of a history rewrite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number5 2,109 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Unbelievable in the 2nd half. Gets slagged plenty but thought he looked a class act. Well played Tav Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluenose88 132 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Played really well today and kept his concentration up. Forced the withdrawal of Sinclair in the second half and with a bit of luck could have had a fantastic winner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misteral 2,932 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 MOTM for me and probably many others. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBlue 136 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 9 minutes ago, Misteral said: MOTM for me and probably many others. This Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy 731 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Never been his biggest fan, especially his defensive qualities and would have been quite happy to punt him, but when he concentrates and puts his defensive duties first, and then takes the opportunities to attack, as he did today, he really becomes a valuable player for us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drum 160 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Wasn't afraid to scream advice at his team mates either. Long me he continue at this standard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
livibear101 248 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Never understand the flack he takes sometimes. Really good player that we need in our team as majority of the time he drives us up the pitch. My MOTM today defo ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theclothmonster 1,704 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 He had a very good second half after a shaky first 45 minutes, tierney tore him apart that first half. If he played like he did in the second half far more often we'd have far more points than we do, he doesn't though and he is one of the biggest reasons we ship so many easy goals. Today he showed some leadership qualities and was getting amongst people but usually he is one of the first to throw the towel in and stop trying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakbear 3,580 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Courtyard Bear said: IF, he played like that every week he wouldn’t be playing for us. BUT, he doesn’t yes he can go forward but he’s in the back 4 and too many times he gets caught ball watching, way out of position and loses his man at the back post. But then let’s not get in the way of a history rewrite. But your first point explains the second. These threads never fail to amaze me. Tav is as good a right back as we can expect at this point. Any better and he would be snapped up. Plus the valuations that are put on players are always mental. The value of a player is determined by how much a club are willing to pay and because of our circumstances we are not in a position to demand more. Look at Van Dick from the scum. They sold him not so long ago for a decent fee but a year or so later he goes for 75 million. He hasn’t improved that much since leaving the scum but the selling club were far stronger and in a stronger league. If Tav played in the English championship he would be valued at 2 or 3 times more than he will ever be valued at while he is our player. That’s just the reality we have to deal with. I for one hope we keep him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 IMHO, that's the best second 45 have ever seen him playing. He was gliding past players like they weren't there. Immense performance. If he was as good at defending I doubt he would be with us. He brought a smile to the face today and felt plaesed as fuck for him. Some better finishing and those cunts were toast today. Let's not get carried away, as we are still full of average players, but it's becoming apparent what each are good at and comfortable with. We showed a spine today. Stood up well in a physical contest. Harnessing all that and get it all working as a collective as second nature and getting that winnng never say die mentality is key and yet to materialise consistently. Maybe Murty can get it out of them. A few quality additions would work wonders, but I sadly can't see us getting them, such is our finances. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, Bakbear said: But your first point explains the second. These threads never fail to amaze me. Tav is as good a right back as we can expect at this point. Any better and he would be snapped up. Plus the valuations that are put on players are always mental. The value of a player is determined by how much a club are willing to pay and because of our circumstances we are not in a position to demand more. Look at Van Dick from the scum. They sold him not so long ago for a decent fee but a year or so later he goes for 75 million. He hasn’t improved that much since leaving the scum but the selling club were far stronger and in a stronger league. If Tav played in the English championship he would be valued at 2 or 3 times more than he will ever be valued at while he is our player. That’s just the reality we have to deal with. I for one hope we keep him So we have except sub standard players because we are Rangers or play in Scottish Football. Mate no offence but that bollocks, if we had improved Tav as a defender and got maybe 4/5 mill for him to a bottom half EPL team where he improved again and moved on to better with us getting a cut then I would say well done. But we haven’t improved him as a defender he is still making the same glaring errors he has from day one. He won’t go for 4/5 mill and it will be to a championship side and probably only to mid table cannon fodder where he won’t improve very much and won’t get a big money move to a top 6 EPL side. Simply because he’s a defender that when you boil it down can’t really defend except for a few games a season and that’s playing in Scotland. So please tell me how that is in anyway good for us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakbear 3,580 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just now, Courtyard Bear said: So we have except sub standard players because we are Rangers or play in Scottish Football. Mate no offence but that bollocks, if we had improved Tav as a defender and got maybe 4/5 mill for him to a bottom half EPL team where he improved again and moved on to better with us getting a cut then I would say well done. But we haven’t improved him as a defender he is still making the same glaring errors he has from day one. He won’t go for 4/5 mill and it will be to a championship side and probably only to mid table cannon fodder where he won’t improve very much and won’t get a big money move to a top 6 EPL side. Simply because he’s a defender that when you boil it down can’t really defend except for a few games a season and that’s playing in Scotland. So please tell me how that is in anyway good for us. No offence taken. And none intended either. But the reality is who would we replace Tav with? Who could we afford that would be better than him and willing to join us. I know it’s not your job to identify decent right backs for Rangers but the point remains we are fishing in a very small pond of talent and the bait we are using is significantly smaller than the bait being used in England. I would take anything in the region of 2 million for him, wouldn’t sell him for much less. We paid 200k for him and I would say he has seen his stock rise by playing for us even if he hasn’t dramatically improved. Similar to Van Dijk it’s not about the ability as much as about who the selling club is If he goes then we will struggle to replace him with better for less than 2 million. As others have said we will probably be left with Hodson. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyM 39 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Folk have gave Tav a hard time for a while but I think he is a really good player. He is a real asset in that team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgowsBlue 329 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 He was so composed on the ball today especially in the second half. When everyone was treating it like a hot tattie he put his foot on it, took it a wee run and played some excellent passes which gave everyone else the confidence to play a bit more Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGOH 2,344 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Best player in Scotland, someone challenge me on that n come see me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just now, Bakbear said: No offence taken. And none intended either. But the reality is who would we replace Tav with? Who could we afford that would be better than him and willing to join us. I know it’s not your job to identify decent right backs for Rangers but the point remains we are fishing in a very small pond of talent and the bait we are using is significantly smaller than the bait being used in England. I would take anything in the region of 2 million for him, wouldn’t sell him for much less. We paid 200k for him and I would say he has seen his stock rise by playing for us even if he hasn’t dramatically improved. Similar to Van Dijk it’s not about the ability as much as about who the selling club is If he goes then we will struggle to replace him with better for less than 2 million. As others have said we will probably be left with Hodson. With this board I’ve no idea. You would need to see what we get if/when he leaves. If we can squeeze 2 mill out of a championship side then all that money should be used to replace him. If we had the right people in charge and Tav could give us the rest of the season like he did for 90 mins today. Then I could see 5/6 mill easy to a bottom half EPL side then you never know what could happen. But we have all watched Tav we know there’s every chance he will have a shocker at Fraserburgh. I agree we need to be out there looking for those unfound gems and yes it’s bloody difficult but if we can find just one every summer transfer window and we can improve him sell for a good profit and hopefully win a watch with any sell on clause then the ones that fail are more than outweighed. I know that’s not an easy ask but it’s where we find ourself in this day and age. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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