2nd half

[markem 7,251]

That's what happens when you get in their face in the middle of the park - finally we did that and their composure and bottle goes.

That has to be the blue print for future games v them.

Well done lads, in particular Bates, John and Tav for me (several more though!)

[danger ranger 922]

We were the best team today, we need a goal scorer.

[markem 7,251]

8 minutes ago, danger ranger said:

We were the best team today, we need a goal scorer.

Think we have one mate? - unfortunately wasn't his day.

The question we need to ask ourselves is why we are being HIbs, Aberdeen, standing up to the yahoos yet losing to the also rans.

[hammer93 15,056]

1 minute ago, markem said:

Think we have one mate? - unfortunately wasn't his day.

The question we need to ask ourselves is why we are being HIbs, Aberdeen, standing up to the yahoos yet losing to the also rans.

Warburton had a white record in bigger games now Murty seems to get a tune more for bigger games than the so called lesser games

[danger ranger 922]

1 hour ago, markem said:

Think we have one mate? - unfortunately wasn't his day.

The question we need to ask ourselves is why we are being HIbs, Aberdeen, standing up to the yahoos yet losing to the also rans.

No, we have not got a goal scorer and we badly need quality through out the side especially up front.

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,613]

1 hour ago, danger ranger said:

No, we have not got a goal scorer and we badly need quality through out the side especially up front.

We have the top spfl scorer who had chances he should have taken. All forwards miss chances or have off days.

Most teams have 4 forwards all of whom can strongly contribute. We have 1. That's the problem, not Morelos.

[danger ranger 922]

56 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said:

We have the top spfl scorer who had chances he should have taken. All forwards miss chances or have off days.

Most teams have 4 forwards all of whom can strongly contribute. We have 1. That's the problem, not Morelos.

A contradiction in terms, top scorer who should have scored, really and not for the first time this season, make your mind up.

He is playing up front on his own and badly needs support but that is no excuse for easy chances being squandered and he should have won the game today with that header, he has to concentrate and keep his eyes open and again, not for the first time this season. We have a lack of quality throughout the team and if addressed then I would expect Morelos to score more, we shall see.

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,613]

1 hour ago, danger ranger said:

A contradiction in terms, top scorer who should have scored, really and not for the first time this season, make your mind up.

He is playing up front on his own and badly needs support but that is no excuse for easy chances being squandered and he should have won the game today with that header, he has to concentrate and keep his eyes open and again, not for the first time this season. We have a lack of quality throughout the team and if addressed then I would expect Morelos to score more, we shall see.

How the fuck is it a contradiction?

Is he our top scorer? Is he the league's top scorer (or was going into game not looked at other results)?  Yes he missed chances but are you saying scorers don't miss chances?

Yes he should score more but so should every scorer ever to have played the game. Doesnt make him someone that can't or doesn't score. Mccoist for instance was exactly the same.

Fucking contradiction, fucking daftie.

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

5 hours ago, markem said:

That's what happens when you get in their face in the middle of the park - finally we did that and their composure and bottle goes.

That has to be the blue print for future games v them.

Well done lads, in particular Bates, John and Tav for me (several more though!)

Has to be the blue print for every game we play not just against the scum. 

[Blackandra 732]

5 hours ago, markem said:

Think we have one mate? - unfortunately wasn't his day.

The question we need to ask ourselves is why we are being HIbs, Aberdeen, standing up to the yahoos yet losing to the also rans.

I'm certain its down to the way the lesser teams play. They sit in their own half which makes it harder to break them down then hit us on the break, where as the bigger teams open up a bit which seems to suit us. It's probably the reason our home form is shit aswell.

[wishawbear87 116]

A think the morelos header is only saved by a bit of luck from Craig Gordon, morepository getso a good connection heads it down does everything right,keeper is diving away from it and by sum bit of luck it hits his outstripped leg 9 times out of ten that goes in but not today unfortunately 

[Laudrup1984 25,100]

They can't deal with the high press. They can't deal with any press. Any time we pressed them, they panicked, they lost possession, they misplaced passes. Every time a team presses them, they come unstuck. Over the past few weeks, us, Hearts, Motherwell, Killie, Anderlecht etc have got in their faces and they can't handle it. Luckily for us, the taigs, their fans and the media continue to dismiss it all and merely blame it on fatigue. All this whilst they have a squad of about 50 cunts or something! It's a nonsense but it doesn't bother me in the slightest. In fact I hope they continue to think they're invincible. Keep blaming it on fatigue.

They're not nearly as good as many make out. Anyone can look good when they're not put under pressure. The thing is you don't even need to be a good player to play the high press, close players down, put them under pressure. You merely have to be competent and moderately fit. It's really not that difficult. Why teams sit off them is a mystery!

Our depleted squad have shown we can match them. I still think this season might be too much to claw back but if we don't believe we can catch them, certainly next season, with a few decent additions, as well as getting some key players back from injury then we should just give up. They are there for the taking if we go about our business in the right manner. First things first though, we need an extra bit of quality in the final 3rd, that bit of quality that wins us games like today, and also wins us games against the lesser teams, someone who can make the difference in the final 3rd. There are many players out there who could improve us, and who will not cost millions. We get into so many great positions but just lack that cutting edge at times.................

[slimjim1690 4,534]

4 minutes ago, Blackandra said:

I'm certain its down to the way the lesser teams play. They sit in their own half which makes it harder to break them down then hit us on the break, where as the bigger teams open up a bit which seems to suit us. It's probably the reason our home form is shit aswell.

Spot on, been saying it all season, what is needed is a midfielder who will drive at defences and make defenders have to make decisions and draw them out of their comfort zone someone with a quick brain who can spot an opening or can link with a forward, someone not afraid to have a pop from outside the box, we make it to easy for teams who sit in with high crosses from the wings into wee Morelos, talking about Morelos, I can see shades of McCoist's first season with us in him in that he gets into great positions but snatches at chances, if composure can be coached into him then maybe just maybe we might just have another McCoist on our hands, but the boy does need support.

[andyhrfc 2,242]

Droves of them were leaving on 80 minutes.  If they can't stay for the last 10 minutes of an OF game at 0-0 I doubt very much they will be back for the lesser lights.    Upper tier closed again next season?

[orange&blue92 1,284]

5 hours ago, markem said:

Think we have one mate? - unfortunately wasn't his day.

The question we need to ask ourselves is why we are being HIbs, Aberdeen, standing up to the yahoos yet losing to the also rans.

The reason is we don't have a motivator as a manager, these games don't need motivation, the games against the dross do. We're not as bad a wee think btw, just a good gaffer away(no disrespect to Sir Grahame of Murty)

[Jam_piece 633]

30 minutes ago, wishawbear87 said:

A think the morelos header is only saved by a bit of luck from Craig Gordon, morepository getso a good connection heads it down does everything right,keeper is diving away from it and by sum bit of luck it hits his outstripped leg 9 times out of ten that goes in but not today unfortunately 

Exactly. try 99/100. the luck they get for being the scum of the earth and the secrets they hide  The theory of karma blown away in an instance.

[Sweetheart 8,458]

3 hours ago, Courtyard Bear said:

Has to be the blue print for every game we play not just against the scum. 

I'd say it has to be the blue print for every game we play, to build consistency. It just goes to show what the team can do when they are united, focused, brave and up their game.

 

[danger ranger 922]

5 hours ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said:

How the fuck is it a contradiction?

Is he our top scorer? Is he the league's top scorer (or was going into game not looked at other results)?  Yes he missed chances but are you saying scorers don't miss chances?

Yes he should score more but so should every scorer ever to have played the game. Doesnt make him someone that can't or doesn't score. Mccoist for instance was exactly the same.

Fucking contradiction, fucking daftie.

Kris Boyd is the leagues second top scorer, two less than Morelos, an overweight and slow striker in a poor team, not much of a boast eh?.

Morelos has done good things this season but he has also been sloppy especially in front of goal and that has nothing to do with support or every striker misses chances, he has been sloppy and yesterday was no different.

We also put in two great performances against Aberdeen and then threw it away with unprofessional sloppy performances, if we want to win this league then we need to sharpen up and that includes Morelos.

[Big Al 55 9,241]

Yes fuck why we did or dindnt win today...Why don't we have the same commitment in every game.

[Parky89 12]

7 hours ago, Blackandra said:

I'm certain its down to the way the lesser teams play. They sit in their own half which makes it harder to break them down then hit us on the break, where as the bigger teams open up a bit which seems to suit us. It's probably the reason our home form is shit aswell.

Think thats where walter smiths knowledge would help. He would know how to play so teams would open up and we could then take advantage of that. Murty needs to find a game plan that suits us at home.

[left winger 14,105]

5 hours ago, Parky89 said:

Think thats where walter smiths knowledge would help. He would know how to play so teams would open up and we could then take advantage of that. Murty needs to find a game plan that suits us at home.

I think Walter Smith's budget would be much more helpful than his knowledge. He didn't have some magic formula to beat teams that defend deep.

[Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312]

When we play ‘them’ then yes, that is the blue print. Get smashed into them. Loved the way McCrorie went after Lego in the 2nd half. Although Tav had to calm him down at one point as he was always too far forward ??

but playing accies, st Johnstone etc is a totally different examination. There’s very little to press, especially at Ibrox. It’s not so much effort and commitment. It’s flair and imagination. There’s very little of that in our squad. That’s the priority in the next transfer window or two. A couple of ‘Sone Aluuko’s’ 

 

[HG5 11,076]

15 minutes ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said:

When we play ‘them’ then yes, that is the blue print. Get smashed into them. Loved the way McCrorie went after Lego in the 2nd half. Although Tav had to calm him down at one point as he was always too far forward ??

but playing accies, st Johnstone etc is a totally different examination. There’s very little to press, especially at Ibrox. It’s not so much effort and commitment. It’s flair and imagination. There’s very little of that in our squad. That’s the priority in the next transfer window or two. A couple of ‘Sone Aluuko’s’ 

 

That’s a good distinction.

Against the lesser lights, we tend to obsess on retention rather than penetration.

While we’re shuffling from side to side, they’re getting men back to close the gaps.

Not that they’re parking the bus all the time, but the amount of time we allow them means they’d be seriously neglectful if they didn’t get bodies back.

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,613]

7 hours ago, danger ranger said:

Kris Boyd is the leagues second top scorer, two less than Morelos, an overweight and slow striker in a poor team, not much of a boast eh?.

Morelos has done good things this season but he has also been sloppy especially in front of goal and that has nothing to do with support or every striker misses chances, he has been sloppy and yesterday was no different.

We also put in two great performances against Aberdeen and then threw it away with unprofessional sloppy performances, if we want to win this league then we need to sharpen up and that includes Morelos.

So is Kris Boyd not a scorer? 270 goals in just under 600 appearances suggests again you're talking nonsense. Or Kris Boyd IS a scorer but currently Morelos who isn't is out gunning him, Griffiths, club 18-30 million Dembele etc... Not much of a counter argument of yours eh?

Morelos stats are 12 goals in 24, a ratio which i'd argue any striker would be pleased with over the course of a season.

You said "we do not have a goal scorer" and then stated it was a contradiction to say he was.

I'm proving he is a goal scorer, best currently in the country, outgunning those valued at many millions more, for a team not even at the top of the league. Not bad for a relatively young guy.

Your issue appears to be that he misses chances. So again, I've given mccoist our greatest ever scorer as a perfect example of a scorer, and one who missed plenty chances over the years. Or was he not a scorer in your eyes because of those misses.

Why don't you just say what you really think which is he can miss chances. Then like with every forward in history we can discuss the merits of ghat without the bullshit of doing the guy a service and saying he' s not a goal scorer.

 

[Gaffbear 4,096]

In the pub yesterday talking to rabid anti Naismith and Lafferty supporters and all agreed that with those 2 playing we would have pumped them .

Starting tomorrow we must match their spending with quality ( I'm not suggesting them ) who will improve us all over the park , especially on the left , behind the strikers and a striker and well chase them down to the wire .

They're a fuckin bog average side who've looked half decent in a shite league .plus their big men shat it yesterday . Lego , dembele , sinclair , Tierney, Boyata and lustig all posted missing and hiding .

Pity it' the winter break cos they could crumble.