davis1986 996 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Please don't put Walter Smith in same sentence as Murty Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 Just now, Smile said: Honestly, theres no hope for you at all, good work trying to belittle Smith. Please, point me to where I have tried to "belittle" Smith. By pointing out, correctly, that he had not been a manager until he took charge here? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,594 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Real Ranger said: That's a bit unfair on Rangers supporting sports direct employees. Sports Direct who bumped us out of football tops for a couple of years. Or a newspaper that printed lies for over a decade making us unapproachable to future investors. £150m in debt etc... Geez peace Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,435 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Jobbies Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 As for the comparison, well itâs plain stupid. But Iâm sure the OP knows this and just wants to start one of his letâs all have an argument threads because heâs bored oot his tits and is waiting for his delivery to arrive from his dealer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: Please, point me to where I have tried to "belittle" Smith. By pointing out, correctly, that he had not been a manager until he took charge here? Â 7 minutes ago, The Dude said: So he wasn't a manager? Just an assistant and a youth coach but definitely not an actual manager? Jimmy Bell hasbeen sat in the dugout for 30 years. Must be dead experienced as a manager 1 Here. Bored with this now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 Just now, davis1986 said: Please don't put Walter Smith in same sentence as Murty Why not? Can I put them in a sentence together pointing out Walter has been giving Murty advice or is that not allowed either? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzy 26,095 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 minute ago, davis1986 said: Please don't put Walter Smith in same sentence as Murty Walter Smith and Graeme Murty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 Just now, Courtyard Bear said: As for the comparison, well itâs plain stupid. But Iâm sure the OP knows this and just wants to start one of his letâs all have an argument threads because heâs bored oot his tits and is waiting for his delivery to arrive from his dealer. Actually, the comparison was made after another poster insisted no Rangers manager in history had had as poor a start as manager as Murty has. Well, turns out that was a load of shite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Smile said: Â Here. No, that's belittling you. Not Walter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davis1986 996 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 minute ago, The Dude said: Why not? Can I put them in a sentence together pointing out Walter has been giving Murty advice or is that not allowed either? Your tying to compare them you know exactly what your trying to do Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Bronzy said: Walter Smith and Graeme Murty. Graeme Murty and Walter Smith Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Pedroâs record is comparable do we bring him back as well. ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Thats an interesting comparison. It shows how sometimes your perception of history is flawed when presented in black and white. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser1041 9,088 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Walter couldnt even handstand ffs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 Just now, davis1986 said: Your tying to compare them you know exactly what your trying to do No, I've compared their opening 20 results as rookie bosses taking their first step as managers in their own right at Ibrox. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 minute ago, The Dude said: Actually, the comparison was made after another poster insisted no Rangers manager in history had had as poor a start as manager as Murty has. Well, turns out that was a load of shite. Mate you bang away on your keyboard not sure what thrill you get out of it mind you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Ranger 3,193 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 8 minutes ago, Smile said:  Just idiots though Smith was an assistant at Dundee Utd under Mclean and won the European championship with a Youth team with Scotland not as inexperienced as the Googlers think i guess. You could also go back to Souness, a man with no managerial experience at any level or McCoist's time as number 2 to Smith at club and international level. Now that Murty is in the hot seat the board owe to him to provide transfer funds that will strengthen the team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 minute ago, cushynumber said: Thats an interesting comparison. It shows how sometimes your perception of history is flawed when presented in black and white. For me, more than anything, it suggests that Murty's shite results (and some have been absolutely woeful) come with the territory to a degree when you appoint a rookie manager. Smith had the same hiccups that Murty is having now. With the right people around him (for Archie Knox read Jimmy Nic) Murty has at least a fighting chance of being a success as Rangers manager Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Mate you bang away on your keyboard not sure what thrill you get out of it mind you. Aren't you also banging away on your keyboard? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Just now, The Dude said: For me, more than anything, it suggests that Murty's shite results (and some have been absolutely woeful) come with the territory to a degree when you appoint a rookie manager. Smith had the same hiccups that Murty is having now. With the right people around him (for Archie Knox read Jimmy Nic) Murty has at least a fighting chance of being a success as Rangers manager I think all managers need luck in the short term, in order to get something established for the long term. If you dont get that luck in the short term, then - and i dont care who you are - you will be out of a job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theclothmonster 1,704 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 minute ago, The Dude said: Actually, the comparison was made after another poster insisted no Rangers manager in history had had as poor a start as manager as Murty has. Well, turns out that was a load of shite. No another poster did not insist that, go back and read the question I asked. Has a Rangers manager ever had such a poor run against diddy teams? That was the question I asked, the point is Murty has a real problem with playing against teams that park the bus and he hasn't found an answer to it. Walter lost to Hearts, Aberdeen, Sparta Prague and Hibs in his 6 losses, these are not traditional diddy teams. Murty has lost to Dundee x2, ICT, Hamilton, St J and Kilmarnock in such a short space of time and has struggled in pretty much all the other games against the lesser teams. If you are going poo poo the point I was making that's fine but at least poo poo the actual point and quote I was making and not one that just suits your agenda. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Ranger 3,193 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: Sports Direct who bumped us out of football tops for a couple of years. Or a newspaper that printed lies for over a decade making us unapproachable to future investors. £150m in debt etc... Geez peace So SD aren't too bad then, they only bumped the club for a couple of years. ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 minute ago, theclothmonster said: No another poster did not insist that, go back and read the question I asked. Has a Rangers manager ever had such a poor run against diddy teams? That was the question I asked, the point is Murty has a real problem with playing against teams that park the bus and he hasn't found an answer to it. Walter lost to Hearts, Aberdeen, Sparta Prague and Hibs in his 6 losses, these are not traditional diddy teams. Murty has lost to Dundee x2, ICT, Hamilton, St J and Kilmarnock in such a short space of time and has struggled in pretty much all the other games against the lesser teams. If you are going poo poo the point I was making that's fine but at least poo poo the actual point and quote I was making and not one that just suits your agenda. Motherwell and St Mirren? Dundee are a traditional diddy team? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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