K.A.I 36,183 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Band of Brothers said: Yes and played pretty well in games I seen, It always seems he gets fit for start of the season plays 1-2 games and thats him done for season it really is a pity as I think he would be a good player to have fit as likes a tackle but we have seen so little of him we cannot judge. Under 19’s it was and 9 caps he’s never played for under 21s Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band of Brothers 10,303 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Under 19’s it was and 9 caps he’s never played for under 21s Aye thats rite I couldn't remember but still a good level for us to be signing. If we could get him fit of course it would be good to see him get a run see whats in his locker for the game up here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Mmoney would be better spent on someone who isn't injury prone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Band of Brothers said: Aye thats rite I couldn't remember but still a good level for us to be signing. If we could get him fit of course it would be good to see him get a run see whats in his locker for the game up here. Is it a good level though mate? The amount of shite from beneath the under 21s who don’t do anything in the game is in the majority - the real ones with a chance and actual talent move upto the 21’s - he is not a good player - people see he was a Liverpool youth player and get a romantic notion dont get me wrong he was a gamble worth taking initially but injuries aside after a few games you could tell he’s an average player that doesn’t have it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,247 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 hour ago, The Dude said: It’s nothing to do with money. He was offered a very similar deal by us. The fact he could go and work with some of the best coaches in the game and some of the best players made is why he moved. Folk will say “aye but if he’d stayed here he could have earned that move in the future” but he’s also have potentially missed out on 3/4/5 years worth of better coaching that should (in theory at least) make him a better player. Ive heard it from folk on all sides of the move it was nothing to do with money. Having got to know Billy a wee bit last season, he’s a boy that wants to play at the highest level he can and after speaking to plenty of people (both at Rangers and elsewhere) the chance to go down and try his luck there was too hard to pass up. Thanks for the insight. My only issue would be why Chelsea? Spurs, Liverpool, Southampton and even Man Utd all seem to ahead of Chelsea in terms of development of youth players, bringing through their own. Infact, in terms of promotion of youth players, Chelsea are probably up there with the worst in the Premiership. I understand the point regarding better coaching etc. But in my opinion, i tend to think that advanced promotion and higher level demands play more of a role in the development of players. Thats just my opinion ofcourse. If at 16 my son has the chance of playing at our level of youth opposition, as well as the trust of his club to be involved in first team squads at such a young age, or has the chance to go the Chelsea youth setup, I’m pretty sure I know what I’d want him to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsa 3,906 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 hour ago, HG5 said: Was going to post something similar. On a more local level, Colin Cameron (ex-Hertz, Wolves, among others) had a similar complaints & was on the verge of packing it in, I believe, until someone thought outside the box & pinned it down to issues with his teeth! AC Milan discovered something similar with Beckham at their Milanelo laboratory. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 17,254 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 15 hours ago, johanhentze said: Very interesting article that I hadnt read. 1 hour ago, HG5 said: Was going to post something similar. On a more local level, Colin Cameron (ex-Hertz, Wolves, among others) had a similar complaints & was on the verge of packing it in, I believe, until someone thought outside the box & pinned it down to issues with his teeth! I can't remember the players name now, but I remember hearing something about this just last year (2017) and thought it was a load of crap at the time. Maybe not though... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,082 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, gsa said: AC Milan discovered something similar with Beckham at their Milanelo laboratory. Wow - he was well advanced in his career by the time they found that out, then! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, HG5 said: Wow - he was well advanced in his career by the time they found that out, then! Or he was older when the problem started.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,478 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Chelsea have the best youth system in England maybe other than Southampton. The players maybe don't make it into their first team but I bet they produce more players who go onto have a career at a good level than anyone else, also makes them considerable money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,082 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 28 minutes ago, Malvern said: Or he was older when the problem started.... Good point!? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsa 3,906 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 hour ago, HG5 said: Wow - he was well advanced in his career by the time they found that out, then! Apparently a small hole in his tooth was causing back problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 He’s still alive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 his opposable thumbs are still in working order. excellent news Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 25 minutes ago, Siwel said: He’s still alive. Old picture but? No? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackrfc95 4,255 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Hopefully a sign he's on his way back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, plumbGER said: Old picture but? No? Aye I’m sure Barton was still here when that pic was took Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, Siwel said: Aye I’m sure Barton was still here when that pic was took Aye cos that's not even our top now is it? I couldn't see any comments with the picture, what was he saying? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, plumbGER said: Aye cos that's not even our top now is it? I couldn't see any comments with the picture, what was he saying? A thumbs up emoji and two punching emojis. No idea what to take from that hopefully means he’s back soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Siwel said: A thumbs up emoji and two punching emojis. No idea what to take from that hopefully means he’s back soon. Hope so, i know a good few on here don't rate the boy but it's impossible to judge him on his performances for us when he has just been returning from injuries anytime he has featured. After such a long time out it's to be expected he will be very rusty, could take him months to actually get up to match speed again providing he can stay fit for that long which i'm not too sure he is able to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, plumbGER said: Hope so, i know a good few on here don't rate the boy but it's impossible to judge him on his performances for us when he has just been returning from injuries anytime he has featured. After such a long time out it's to be expected he will be very rusty, could take him months to actually get up to match speed again providing he can stay fit for that long which i'm not too sure he is able to. only 20 too so he’s still gonna be quite raw. I think he has potential but I don’t expect him to be able to get fit enough to ever reach his potential. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz-96 41 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Was there not a rumour kicking about that Templeton had an injury problem and we could never get to the bottom of it. Then after he left us he spent money on seeing a specialist and they were able to discover what was wrong and sorted him out. Could it be something similar with rossiter? Only thing that makes me doubt that though is that murty said he's already seeing different people. Just seems strange though that we can't get to the bottom of Rossiters injuries Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piperpete 3,186 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, Siwel said: A thumbs up emoji and two punching emojis. No idea what to take from that hopefully means he’s back soon. Could be just letting us know he is alive . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser1041 9,088 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 55 minutes ago, Siwel said: He’s still alive. Out for 6 weeks apparently he broke both thumbs posting that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 4,654 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Florida bound maybe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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