KeyserSoze 14,521 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 6 hours ago, Gustav said: £10m+ to spend could also be integral to winning the league. Arguable even more so. £10+ million = half to the "soft loan company" and half to Mark Allan - that won't win us the league. Keeping him might Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sausagetrunks 6,016 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 16 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: I'm getting the feeling that people on here don't realise how big a player Alfredo actually is for us. He goes there'll be a huge dip in quality going forward. there is a reason they're willing to pay 11 million for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,913 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: If they've offered £11m up front we should bite their fucking hand off. Right up to the elbow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, pcbear said: Right up to the elbow. Deep throat that shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,103 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 minute ago, sausagetrunks said: there is a reason they're willing to pay 11 million for him. Because they're mad bastards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, pcbear said: Anything happening on this save me trawling back? No tellling you go back and read through the thread ya lazy so & so. ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,103 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 minute ago, KeyserSoze said: £10+ million = half to the "soft loan company" and half to Mark Allan - that won't win us the league. Need to factor in investment which is (apparently) around the corner, new sponsorship and kit deals, season ticket money as well. Also consider the squad we already have, spend the money on three quality first team players. I'd argue we'd be in with a great shout. We should be within touching distance this season, they're not as far ahead as some think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,103 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, pcbear said: Anything happening on this save me trawling back? @OhW Thinks we will only get £6m for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,016 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, DeanMK said: Use the £11m to tie Kenny Miller down to a new 4 year deal. 4 years at his age? Surely the security of a 5 year deal would be more tempting for him. Worth offering to ensure he doesn't leave for free to go elsewhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,103 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Amato said: 4 years at his age? Surely the security of a 5 year deal would be more tempting for him. Worth offering to ensure he doesn't leave for free to go elsewhere I've heard he's actually gunning for the DoF job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,521 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, Leeds_Bear said: Need to factor in investment which is (apparently) around the corner, new sponsorship and kit deals, season ticket money as well. Also consider the squad we already have, spend the money on three quality first team players. I'd argue we'd be in with a great shout. We should be within touching distance this season, they're not as far ahead as some think. Proper investment is the only factor to bring in decent players - our season ticket sales have always been the same bar a couple of years in the lowers. we have a quality player so why are we not trying to keep him? I will never understand the economics of selling player and using the funds to buy players who might actually be duff or not - it's a gamble - no need to gamble as Alfie is becoming a known asset - Those three players you talk about will have a combined wage well in excess of what might keep Morelos with us for 55 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhW 4,669 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 19 minutes ago, Leeds_Bear said: @OhW Thinks we will only get £6m for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1690tamRFC 5,001 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: Proper investment is the only factor to bring in decent players - our season ticket sales have always been the same bar a couple of years in the lowers. we have a quality player so why are we not trying to keep him? I will never understand the economics of selling player and using the funds to buy players who might actually be duff or not - it's a gamble - no need to gamble as Alfie is becoming a known asset - Those three players you talk about will have a combined wage well in excess of what might keep Morelos with us for 55 Who says we are not trying to keep him ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger_onimo 20,488 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 The amount of cunts acting all angry and bemused at the prospect of us adopting a tried and tested, successful and sustainable business model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,103 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: Proper investment is the only factor to bring in decent players - our season ticket sales have always been the same bar a couple of years in the lowers. we have a quality player so why are we not trying to keep him? I will never understand the economics of selling player and using the funds to buy players who might actually be duff or not - it's a gamble - no need to gamble as Alfie is becoming a known asset - Those three players you talk about will have a combined wage well in excess of what might keep Morelos with us for 55 Understand all those points, but we're a selling club now. Our business model for growth has to be reliant on buying cheap and selling high - as you say our season ticket sales have always been the same and we have no other real income currently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost 431 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I’d take it right now. Possible sell on clause if we can in case he does improve but players in that league don’t tend to invite big subsequent transfers. It’s a one-way street at the moment. Personally, I don’t rate him that highly to justify the quoted bids. He’s too temperamental, petty and likely to sink back into another goal drought at any point. £11m is too good to turn down and if they feel they’ve maxed out their bid then they’ll move on and we won’t see anything like it again. Shaping up to be a Dembelle Mk11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, 1690tamRFC said: Who says we are not trying to keep him ? Exactly, we’ve rejected 4 bids for him ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,521 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, 1690tamRFC said: Who says we are not trying to keep him ? I'm not explaining that to you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,604 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ger_onimo said: The amount of cunts acting all angry and bemused at the prospect of us adopting a tried and tested, successful and sustainable business model. Surely it's only a successful business model if you're getting maximum value from the player being sold? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,521 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Leeds_Bear said: Understand all those points, but we're a selling club now. Our business model for growth has to be reliant on buying cheap and selling high - as you say our season ticket sales have always been the same and we have no other real income currently. "selling club" like Motherwell, Hivs and Hertz? when was the last time a "selling club" won anything? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: Surely it's only a successful business model if you're getting maximum value from the player being sold? It is and imo we’re getting way more than value for him if he goes for this much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger_onimo 20,488 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 minute ago, BridgeIsBlue said: Surely it's only a successful business model if you're getting maximum value from the player being sold? Agreed, but that’s a matter of opinion. My opinion is that he isn’t worth £11m now, and isn’t likely to be worth more than £11m in the future. We should cash out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, KeyserSoze said: "selling club" like Motherwell, Hivs and Hertz? when was the last time a "selling club" won anything? Taigs won the league last 6 years by being a selling club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,521 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Siwel said: Exactly, we’ve rejected 4 bids for him ffs yes but I am debating with a poster who thinks we should sell him, what the club do is irrelevant to our conversation.... ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger_onimo 20,488 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 minute ago, KeyserSoze said: "selling club" like Motherwell, Hivs and Hertz? when was the last time a "selling club" won anything? Every club outwith about a dozen European ones are selling clubs. It’s not 1990 ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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