NeoGeo7 10,502 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 This thread highlights what a stupid decision it was last night to celebrate in that way. 8 pages of debate about his ability, his attitude etc. instead of the focus being on a really good run and finish at the end of a really good move from us. It’s like Tav giving the ref on Saturday the opportunity to give a penalty Windass has given the supporters the chance to slate him. He simply as to become a man. Take accountability for his actions good or bad. theredhandofNewcastle and dougie76 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordersbear 1,105 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 4 hours ago, Courtyard Bear said: Stupid wee boy who thinks he’s better than he is. Maybe it will dawn on him when he’s back in League 1 down South. No way is he going back to league one. Will be at least division 3 Courtyard Bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,484 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I don't really care to be honest. We can give it out to him, he can give it out to us. He gets the most stick in the whole team despite being one of our top 3/4 players. If he feels annoyed by the constant stick even when he's playing well then I couldn't really care if he celebrates like that, not going to lose any sleep over it. folkestoneger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrup1690 1,064 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 57 minutes ago, folkestoneger said: If he scores and assists every game he can do all the ssshhhhing he likes. He did pass tav the ball but I wouldn’t really class it as a assist tbh. he was minging in first half but improved in second,he just needs to man up a bit for me and take criticism on chin and rather than ‘ssshhh’ the fans actually do his talking on pitch. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1mgg 3,766 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Has he not been punted yet Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,530 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, Broxi said: I don't really care to be honest. We can give it out to him, he can give it out to us. He gets the most stick in the whole team despite being one of our top 3/4 players. If he feels annoyed by the constant stick even when he's playing well then I couldn't really care if he celebrates like that, not going to lose any sleep over it. If he doesn't like the stick he should knuckle down and stop acting like a bellend and it will stop. binsy08, dougie76 and Courtyard Bear 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,455 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 13 minutes ago, Gustav said: Would be surprised if the fool can tell the time/tie his own shoe laces tbh He does have a certain gormlessness about him HG5 and The Specky Forum Organiser 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,484 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gustav said: If he doesn't like the stick he should knuckle down and stop acting like a bellend and it will stop. Usually it should be "if he doesn't like the stick he should start playing well and scoring" which he is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,530 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, Broxi said: Usually it should be "if he doesn't like the stick he should start playing well and scoring" which he is. The majority of the stick he gets isn't for his performances it's for his attitude. dougie76 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Brogues 223 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, simplythebest said: Fans pay to watch Rangers while the players get paid handsomely so it's not as if we're dealing with people in the same situation There's obviously no excuse for over the top personal abuse and social media can be bad for that but I think you're dealing with a small amount of people that would cross the line. In the overall picture though players should be able to deal with some stick and accept the right of the support to give them it when they're in such a privileged position I do agree . But players are all different. I'm not sure how i would react if i was in his position. He probably just feels relief more than anything when he scores, as a team they are always under pressure. When you score a goal its just raw emotion. Either way he has to improve his consistency, if he does, he will find that stick from fans would decrease. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Broxi said: Usually it should be "if he doesn't like the stick he should start playing well and scoring" which he is. Hibs game says hello plumbGER and dougie76 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPWF 8,230 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, Gustav said: The majority of the stick he gets isn't for his performances it's for his attitude. I give him stick for both tbf. He’s pish. The epitome of a loser English lower league player. He’ll be quite happy to score the odd goal through the season and never win anything, because that’s exactly what these guys are told is acceptable at Accrington Stanley and the likes. Finishing second in the Championship is treated like winning the Champion League by these guys. Very few have the mental capacity to push beyond that and understand that winning is the only option at Rangers. ShanksRFC, HG5 and Blue Avenger 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,484 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, simplythebest said: Hibs game says hello Joint top goals+assists player in the team says hello Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, Broxi said: Joint top goals+assists player in the team says hello It doesn't say much with the way our squad has performed this season There's ability there but there's no way he's been consistent enough to get all offended at criticism Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Broxi said: Usually it should be "if he doesn't like the stick he should start playing well and scoring" which he is. Which he isn’t. ?? 1 great game in 5 and popping up with the occasional goal doesn’t make a superstar. Hes another Nicky Law, does very little 90% of the time scores a goal and feels he has justified his weeks wage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don logan 8,062 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I think he's the most naturally skilful player we have but by his nature is a bit aimless and a drifter. So needs a good coach and motivator behind him to ensure he makes a worthwhile contribution. dougie76 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post plumbGER 24,518 Posted February 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2018 We should all do a mega-sssshhhhh the next time he goes hiding in a game like the hibs game or Kilmarnock away. Tiger Shaw, bombaybadboy08, Courtyard Bear and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, don logan said: I think he's the most naturally skilful player we have but by his nature is a bit aimless and a drifter. So needs a good coach and motivator behind him to ensure he makes a worthwhile contribution. Aye, a McGills bus heading south. SPWF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza1212 1,212 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 36 minutes ago, NeoGeo7 said: This thread highlights what a stupid decision it was last night to celebrate in that way. 8 pages of debate about his ability, his attitude etc. instead of the focus being on a really good run and finish at the end of a really good move from us. It’s like Tav giving the ref on Saturday the opportunity to give a penalty Windass has given the supporters the chance to slate him. He simply as to become a man. Take accountability for his actions good or bad. Personality I think it has greater implications than this one incident. It shows me the player is still not 100% clear of what will pass as acceptable behaviour at this club and I've got more of an issue with that to be honest. They have to know what it means to play for Rangers and everything that entails. It used to be that having the talent was just enough to get you in the door at Ibrox, nothing more. If you wanted to make it here you had to apply yourself and conduct yourself in a manner befitting the club's stature in the game. Windlass has done none of that. I'm also not buying this horse shit that modern players don't react well to the old authoritarian methods. There has to be respect otherwise the whole thing comes down around you. All the top men in the game have it and given our proud history this is the last club in the country that should be deviating from that path. dougie76, SPWF and HG5 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 61,461 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Single handed kept us in the Scottish and this is the thanks he gets!! Bears r us 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,248 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 36 minutes ago, Gustav said: If he doesn't like the stick he should knuckle down and stop acting like a bellend and it will stop. It wouldnt stop. He's a totally different player under Murty, the stick hasn't stopped. He's given pelters by fans yet they're the first to greet like wee wean's when he gives it back. He should give up social media for a while. James Rolle 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,530 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, Big Al II said: It wouldnt stop. He's a totally different player under Murty, the stick hasn't stopped. He's given pelters by fans yet they're the first to greet like wee wean's when he gives it back. He should give up social media for a while. Proves my point, he's getting stick despite playing well, it's his attitude not his performances. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reformation Bear 6,453 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Interesting that it seems to have taken the media reporting of a 'sshhhh' and the accompanying photographs of it to prompt Murty into declaring a need to have discussion with Windass about the gesture to the fans. Maybe its not really an issue at Ibrox since the Club uses a photo of the 'sshhhh' gesture in its own website so there is clearly no real concern at Rangers about the gesture. The talk by Murty would then perhaps just be a talk for appearances sake (a gesture even) to quell the media (and social media) discussions. Storm in a proverbial teacup is a conclusion that the Club is quite likely to make and then quietly move on. Windass does seem to be uniquely clueless though. Aside from his gesture he's been on the receiving end of criticism - or shall we be more generous and call it kindly creative advice - not just in social media forums but from his own manager. More than once we've heard Murty single out Windass for public comment - usually a mix of some praise for snippets of good work and then some exasperation about other aspects of his game that need to be improved. Its not as if the stuff he is hearing is just coming from fans.....or has he done a 'sshhh' thing to Murty too as a way of telling him to pipe down and leave him alone? He plays for Glasgow Rangers but all too often he comes across in his overall standard of play as thinking he is playing for Accrington Rangers where his fading out of games or lack of effort to fight for the cause it is less noticeable, or important in his mind and as a result more acceptable to him. There comes a tipping point with players at big Clubs like Rangers when it becomes clear to them that they either make it and thrive at the Club or don't make it and its the journey to the exit door that they must follow. He's been given gilt edged opportunity under Warburton, Pedro and now Murty to make it and to show that he's not just got what it takes but is actually delivering to a high standard on a consistent basis. In my estimation he has not been able or willing to take his opportunity so for me it looks far more like the exit door beckoning than it does his becoming a recognised top notch first team performer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,793 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 If only the boy had the wit to do his silly bow celebration then he could have got the plaudits for his goal and assist. I have no idea why but have never taken to him since he arrived, yes he seems to have good stats but his whole game contribution is normally poor. I assume someone will have a wee word and explain that taking the piss of the people who pay his wages is not a great idea. dougie76 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don logan 8,062 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 22 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: Aye, a McGills bus heading south. Would only get him as far as Largs. You should have said Stagecoach........................ Drunk and disorderly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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