gj923 1,457 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 57 minutes ago, MaddistonKnight said: I've been on his back all season (well, less so recently) , but I have to take my hat off to him for that stat. Pretty impressive. Aye he has 17 goals but only 4 of them are against the top 6 with the rest against bottom six or lower league teams. Its like Morelos 17 goals but only 3 against the top 6 this season. The No.9 and Smile 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jasper Blues 497 Posted March 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2018 Windass v Candeias on Sunday. One scores a cracker then does a Nicky Law, comes off the park fresh v One who scores a cracker, works his arse off, back-tracks, tackles, puts inviting crosses into the box, comes off the park knackered. I know which one I would have in my team(if I had a team). TFP77, TheGovanIniesta, BridgeIsBlue and 8 others 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mearns loyal 2,711 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 24 minutes ago, GT66 said: We'll struggle to find one as good imo. Coutinho, Hazard, Ozil etc. all great on the ball creatively but dont work when theyre off it. Building a team around a number 10 should be about having a set up which allows them freedom to move about areas behind/ beside the striker. Saying that, ater Sunday I don't think it's the way we should be setting up just now with the midfield and defence that we are missing. Coutinho Hazard Ozil and... Windass ffs ? Blue Avenger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rum Ham 2,059 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: ? You having a laugh Obviously not comparing him to them, but struggle to name any number 10s that work hard off the ball Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,530 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Dan Deacon said: And yet for some myself included he's just not up to it. I'm confused ?? @Blue Avenger disnae like this Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Dan Deacon said: And yet for some myself included he's just not up to it. I'm confused ?? That’s because he will do one of those things a game and nothing much else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rum Ham 2,059 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, mearns loyal said: Coutinho Hazard Ozil and... Windass ffs ? Giving examples of number 10's obviously. Some of the best in the world at it that are lazy bastards too, as well as there being parallels to what Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool fans have said about them to what is said about Windass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gers31 246 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Even thought he scores and assists he is not consistent the whole game he is in the game the first half then second half he is no were to be found not good enough HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mearns loyal 2,711 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, GT66 said: Giving examples of number 10's obviously. Some of the best in the world at it that are lazy bastards too, as well as there being parallels to what Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool fans have said about them to what is said about Windass. Three players who I would guarantee are, and always will be more productive in a game than Windass. Can you see Windass ever playing for Chelsea Arsenal or Barcelona? If you believe he can then I will gladly remove my previous post... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amac9 2,060 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 32 minutes ago, plymouthranger said: If his shot went in (and it was really close, great save from the keeper) then he scores 2 goals in an Old Firm game. If Morelos instead scores he would have had a goal and an assist. That's hardly nothing. If, but's and maybe's. The story of our season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, ForeverAndEver said: Underrated. Genuine chance of our POTY, probably goes to Tav or Morelos though Tav is the only real consistent performer, perhaps candeas. Windass was shite at the start of the season, it's only his recent form that has got him a lot of attention. It's Morelos recent form which means he does not deserve player of the year - plus the very fact he misses so many easy chances. He has a lot to learn. HG5 and The No.9 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGovanIniesta 1,000 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Away from home he’s quality but at home when teams sit in he doesn’t have the brains to score or create and is a total passenger so when they hit us on the break or try to battle us he’s a lost puppy HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markem 7,251 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 What to do with him. Highly likely to get you a goal however as good as a man down in many other respect imo. I’d love to know if we are coaching the other elements of his game, for example pressing with a purpose and not running into the space he thinks he should. Murty seems to have a real blind spot with him and for me it’s not helping the lad. Start hooking him when he’s fallen out of the game, explain to him why and help him improve. The boy is not the brightest and whilst he keeps getting 90 minutes in his head everything is fine. HG5 and Blue Avenger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, GT66 said: Obviously not comparing him to them, but struggle to name any number 10s that work hard off the ball We need 11 men working hard off the ball No matter what position they play We are no Barca or Madrid where we have 7/8 Athletes at the top of their game carrying a few creative genius markem, Blue Avenger, HG5 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 10,867 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 41 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: I will be truly gutted if he is in our first team next year I just don't understand this view at all, and it's one that's obviously shared by many given the likes it got. Very few players in the league possess the quality that Windass does. He needs to show that quality more consistently and be more assertive in games. I'm not aiming this at you specifically, but some of our fans seem to just want a team full of tough tackling cloggers. No-one else in our team could have scored that opening goal on Sunday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,510 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 18 minutes ago, markem said: What to do with him. Highly likely to get you a goal however as good as a man down in many other respect imo. I’d love to know if we are coaching the other elements of his game, for example pressing with a purpose and not running into the space he thinks he should. Murty seems to have a real blind spot with him and for me it’s not helping the lad. Start hooking him when he’s fallen out of the game, explain to him why and help him improve. The boy is not the brightest and whilst he keeps getting 90 minutes in his head everything is fine. I know it's turned into a cliche to talk about his intelligence or lack of it but I honestly don't think he has the brains to take on board instructions and be coached That's not intended as a defence of Murty as I totally agree he needs subbed more often markem 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zander1 180 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I think we need to stop thinking of him as a 'number 10'. He's not that type of player. He's essentially a second striker who takes a deeper starting position but he's not really a midfielder who'll get a hold of a game. If we play him we have to accept we're essentially playing 442. The No.9, Dan Deacon and dougie76 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 21 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: We need 11 men working hard off the ball No matter what position they play We are no Barca or Madrid where we have 7/8 Athletes at the top of their game carrying a few creative genius Far too much sense for in here. Windass is the man. Let's build a team around our special number 10. I mean you just can't miss likeness to Gazza. It's just uncanny so it is. Oh I forgot about and Hazard, Ozil and Couhitino as well. Fuck me, how standards have fallen indeed. However, threads on Windass are always good for a chuckle. eejay the dj and HG5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Stats are good and that but until he actually starts to deliver he should be put out on Loan. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 hours ago, .Williamson. said: I don’t think he’s underrated at all. He gets abuse on here from some but in general everyone seems to rate him. People on social media couldn’t be any further up his arse Fuck knows why, ge vanished after the 4th minute on sunday HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 40 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said: I just don't understand this view at all, and it's one that's obviously shared by many given the likes it got. Very few players in the league possess the quality that Windass does. He needs to show that quality more consistently and be more assertive in games. I'm not aiming this at you specifically, but some of our fans seem to just want a team full of tough tackling cloggers. No-one else in our team could have scored that opening goal on Sunday. What good did his goal do given he disappeared right after it for the rest of the game, why cant he put the same shift in for 90mins HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rum Ham 2,059 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, mearns loyal said: Three players who I would guarantee are, and always will be more productive in a game than Windass. Can you see Windass ever playing for Chelsea Arsenal or Barcelona? If you believe he can then I will gladly remove my previous post... Why do you keep replying as if I have said Windass is, or could be, as good? Not saying hes even got half the talent, but rather giving examples of a number 10 role and what its about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 59 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said: I just don't understand this view at all, and it's one that's obviously shared by many given the likes it got. Very few players in the league possess the quality that Windass does. He needs to show that quality more consistently and be more assertive in games. I'm not aiming this at you specifically, but some of our fans seem to just want a team full of tough tackling cloggers. No-one else in our team could have scored that opening goal on Sunday. Give up while you're ahead ffs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, eejay the dj said: We need 11 men working hard off the ball No matter what position they play We are no Barca or Madrid where we have 7/8 Athletes at the top of their game carrying a few creative genius Awh ffs, Windass is too good to work off the ball. Just like Hazard and that. Fuck me, I've come out with some belters in my time, but these Windass appreciation threads are the best yet. Keep them coming. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mearns loyal 2,711 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 21 minutes ago, GT66 said: Why do you keep replying as if I have said Windass is, or could be, as good? Not saying hes even got half the talent, but rather giving examples of a number 10 role and what its about. He’s no a number 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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