plumbGER 24,518 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Copland bear said: Does it matter who he supported as a kid ? Since Walter we have had one nugget after another and here's a guy with a amazing record at Killie and yet some would not even consider him. Would you consider moving seat for safe standing if the club brought in Clarke as manager as part of the deal? BridgeIsBlue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 10,784 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 The disappointing thing about this whole debate is the dearth of realistic outstanding candidates. Sean Dyche would be perfect for what the club needs and what most fans are looking for. At a club much smaller than ours and unlikely to be able to take them much further. There's not a chance however of getting a manager currently employed in either the Premiership or probably even the top 6-10 of the championship. Dyche would be on several million a year for a start but no-ones leaving the Premiership for Scottish football. So the net is limited to managers out of work, managers employed at clubs in the smaller Europeean countries who might see being successful at Rangers as a stepping stone to down south, and managers working up in Scotland already. - Clarke, Ross and Robinson from up here. - Neilson's out of work and from the board's perspective fits the bill of being able to work with a DoF. - De Boer will probably be linked for as long as he continues to still be without a club. I don't follow European football well enough to know who might be both doing a good job and see Rangers as career progression. The tl:dr here is we're fucked Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,733 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 5 hours ago, DBBTB said: Where was all this clamour for Clarke over the past three years when he was mainly out of football? Is a good six months at Kilmarnock really enough to warrant a complete 180 in peoples opinion on him and enough to now warrant him getting the Rangers job? He was laughed it when linked when Warburton went iirc BridgeIsBlue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,913 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said: The disappointing thing about this whole debate is the dearth of realistic outstanding candidates. Sean Dyche would be perfect for what the club needs and what most fans are looking for. At a club much smaller than ours and unlikely to be able to take them much further. There's not a chance however of getting a manager currently employed in either the Premiership or probably even the top 6-10 of the championship. Dyche would be on several million a year for a start but no-ones leaving the Premiership for Scottish football. So the net is limited to managers out of work, managers employed at clubs in the smaller Europeean countries who might see being successful at Rangers as a stepping stone to down south, and managers working up in Scotland already. - Clarke, Ross and Robinson from up here. - Neilson's out of work and from the board's perspective fits the bill of being able to work with a DoF. - De Boer will probably be linked for as long as he continues to still be without a club. I don't follow European football well enough to know who might be both doing a good job and see Rangers as career progression. The tl:dr here is we're fucked Robbie Neilson left MK Dons 21st in League 1 ffs, De Boer would be looking for a huge budget to get players in that will mask his managerial limitations, two daft suggestions imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 10,784 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, pcbear said: Robbie Neilson left MK Dons 21st in League 1 ffs, De Boer would be looking for a huge budget to get players in that will mask his managerial limitations, two daft suggestions imo. Don't get me wrong I don't want Neilson, just using him as an example of what we're limited to as potential options. I'd be excited by De Boer though but can't see it happening. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jimfanciesthedude 24,504 Posted March 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2018 6 hours ago, DBBTB said: Where was all this clamour for Clarke over the past three years when he was mainly out of football? Is a good six months at Kilmarnock really enough to warrant a complete 180 in peoples opinion on him and enough to now warrant him getting the Rangers job? Its not just a good 6 months at killie, its an astonishing 6 months in which he has shown tactical nous, ability to spot a player for the league we are in, shown that he has learned scottish football pretty quickly and can punch above his and killies weight Clarke has won more points against the tarriers than murty, pedro and Warburton combined, why not take a chance on someone who has shown he can adapt to a situation pretty quickly Ger_onimo, plumbGER, Smell the hotdog and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,504 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said: Don't get me wrong I don't want Neilson, just using him as an example of what we're limited to as potential options. I'd be excited by De Boer though but can't see it happening. Why excited by de Boer, whats he done to excite you Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred H Crawford 1,182 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Why excited by de Boer, whats he done to excite you It must be the Dutch porn star accent Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,504 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 37 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: He was laughed it when linked when Warburton went iirc Fuck knows why, mourinho raved about him when he was a coach at chelsea, and he didnt do to bad at his other jobs RFC55 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger_onimo 20,488 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 One of the main criticisms of him seems to be that he’s a one-season wonder. Well that suits me down to the ground. We just need to stop them at the moment, win a league and take it from there. I really think he’d do that. BlueKnight87 and 35 Yard Dangerman 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 10,784 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Fred H Crawford said: It must be the Dutch porn star accent There's that, and joking aside I like his tactical approach. He was a winner both as a player and at Ajax as a manager. I realise most of our fans want someone pragmatic who can grind out wins but doesn't care about entertaining. I don't think that's a must though. celtic prove that, and I think we're only two centre backs and the right manager away from really going toe to toe with them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,733 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said: There's that, and joking aside I like his tactical approach. He was a winner both as a player and at Ajax as a manager. I realise most of our fans want someone pragmatic who can grind out wins but doesn't care about entertaining. I don't think that's a must though. celtic prove that, and I think we're only two centre backs and the right manager away from really going toe to toe with them. De boer has to make his next job a winner. He's spent about 250 days in management between his last two jobs. He is not what we can afford to risk it all on at this moment in time Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 5,438 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 SPWF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BlueKnight87 17,281 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 41 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Its not just a good 6 months at killie, its an astonishing 6 months in which he has shown tactical nous, ability to spot a player for the league we are in, shown that he has learned scottish football pretty quickly and can punch above his and killies weight Clarke has won more points against the tarriers than murty, pedro and Warburton combined, why not take a chance on someone who has shown he can adapt to a situation pretty quickly I've seen a few saying he's a one season wonder. We only need 1 season to stop 10. Right now he's the in-form manager in the league. What has also impressed me with Clarke is the turn around in boyd. He's the leagues top scorer under clarke. He ticks all the boxes and the board would be mad not to approach him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Would he want to leave Killie? Boyhood club, he is just in and making an impact; and Rangers might not be the draw for managers they once were. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,281 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, ZZed said: Would he want to leave Killie? Boyhood club, he is just in and making an impact; and Rangers might not be the draw for managers they once were. Only one way to find out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred H Crawford 1,182 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said: There's that, and joking aside I like his tactical approach. He was a winner both as a player and at Ajax as a manager. I realise most of our fans want someone pragmatic who can grind out wins but doesn't care about entertaining. I don't think that's a must though. celtic prove that, and I think we're only two centre backs and the right manager away from really going toe to toe with them. I think we would all love to see a manager coming in and having us playing with the flair of Advocaat's first two seasons , but realistically we are so far away from that scenario at this moment in time that IMO most of us want someone who can inspire a bit of fight and pride in the jersey and stop us from being such pushovers especially at Ibrox . If we had managed to put together a decent home record this season , how much closer would we have been to giving them a genuine title challenge ? We need someone in who understands the importance of picking up points when we've been poor and put a stop to the habit of dropping points to sides in the lower half of the table . Not an easy task to find the right candidate I know , and one that honestly I don't have much faith in those who are charged with the task getting correct . We live in hope though . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,281 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Blue Avenger said: And you will be most probably correct. He'll lose the semi p, but dig out a few results and even if he drops to third, the job will still be his. Simply because this board have nowhere to go and no money. If the board keep him in charge next season. It's the final admission they have neither the funds or the ambition to take us back to the top. chris182 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35 Yard Dangerman 3,475 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 43 minutes ago, ZZed said: Would he want to leave Killie? Boyhood club, he is just in and making an impact; and Rangers might not be the draw for managers they once were. Aye he's probably in a happy place right now. He'll be thinking do i actually want the hassle. This is where we are man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,281 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 14 minutes ago, 35 Yard Dangerman said: Aye he's probably in a happy place right now. He'll be thinking do i actually want the hassle. This is where we are man. We can only enquire and see if he's interested. He may do a mciness and say no due to being comfortable. If that's the case we look elsewhere. But from what I've read Clarke and Brenda had a bitter fall out when he took charge of Liverpool. I think Clarke might just be up for the chance to get one over him and stop 10. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35 Yard Dangerman 3,475 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, BlueKnight87 said: We can only enquire and see if he's interested. He may do a mciness and say no due to being comfortable. If that's the case we look elsewhere. But from what I've read Clarke and Brenda had a bitter fall out when he took charge of Liverpool. I think Clarke might just be up for the chance to get one over him and stop 10. I really would not be surprised if we were to ask him and he said no thanks. chris182 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Rfc52 said: He was laughed it when linked when Warburton went iirc It just goes to show how quickly things change in football. Warburton now out of a job with his reputation in tatters. Clarke's stock is on the rise having achieved more in Scotland's top-tier that Warburton ever did. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 hour ago, ZZed said: Would he want to leave Killie? Boyhood club, he is just in and making an impact; and Rangers might not be the draw for managers they once were. Clarke's done exceptionally well with Kilmarnock but how far can he realistically take them on their budget? Top six and a European spot is their celling and Clarke could potentially give them both this season. Financially, Kilmarnock have a strict budget and I doubt he's earning more than £1k/week. His stock will be high after this season and there will be teams offering him better money and like most people in football he'll follow the money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,521 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 8 hours ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: Clarke's done exceptionally well with Kilmarnock but how far can he realistically take them on their budget? Top six and a European spot is their celling and Clarke could potentially give them both this season. Financially, Kilmarnock have a strict budget and I doubt he's earning more than £1k/week. His stock will be high after this season and there will be teams offering him better money and like most people in football he'll follow the money. I think he’s staying at Kilmarnock to do the treble next year. After all he’s done remarkably well with a budget of £34 and a bunch of Ayrshire farmers. Surely if he continues with winning and beating the OF then that’s what will happen surely?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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