Where Murty record is compared with his predecessors

[The Dude 20,026]

I posted similar after 20 games comparing Murty's record with Walter Smith. Someone asked this morning where it stands now so I've compiled their records after 29 (how many Murty has managed) and added McLeish, Souness and Advocaat in to see just where he should be performing.

Murty - P29 W19 D2 L8

Souness - P29 W20 D4 L5

Smith - P29 W18 D4 L7

Advocaat - P29 W18 D8 L3

McLeish - P29 W21 D6 L2

(Includes any competitive game they are listed as manager on here)

[cumbrian bear 75]

Very interesting, thanks for posting bud

[OzzieBear 204]

Doesn’t look too bad......

[Rumblepack 16]

to me he still has a chance to get the job tthink most ppl disagree

[KingKirk 25,631]

It's stats like those that makes me wanna stick with him it's clear he has the ability to be a manager of good quality to. Do we have the patience I doubt it

[Lloyd 10,756]

1 minute ago, KingKirk said:

It's stats like those that makes me wanna stick with him it's clear he has the ability to be a manager of good quality to. Do we have the patience I doubt it

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,540]

Murtys stats will be misleading as they will include the games that he was temp manager last season will they not? 

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

That’s stats for you, they can polish up any amount of shit. 

[Number5 2,121]

All those stats say to me is that we're easily beat under Murty. Losing a game every 3 and a bit games.

Not all his fault as were looking at the worst defence in our top flight history, 

Only Walters loss rate is comparible.

[The Dude 20,026]

7 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

Murtys stats will be misleading as they will include the games that he was temp manager last season will they not? 

Walters also include when he was temporary manager. He was in the dugout as manager for them so I’ve counted them. 

[BlueKnight87 17,281]

Dig into more detail with those stats and you see the major issues. The majority of those loses for murty have been at home. Teams don't fear coming to ibrox anymore. This season Hamilton, st Johnstone, hibs, them and now killie have left with full points. 

We are entering a critical time now. They are chasing 8 next season. We can't wait in the hope murty will come good. We need a tried and tested manager who can turn ibrox back into a fortress. 

[gj923 1,457]

41 minutes ago, The Dude said:

I posted similar after 20 games comparing Murty's record with Walter Smith. Someone asked this morning where it stands now so I've compiled their records after 29 (how many Murty has managed) and added McLeish, Souness and Advocaat in to see just where he should be performing.

Murty - P29 W19 D2 L8

Souness - P29 W20 D4 L5

Smith - P29 W18 D4 L7

Advocaat - P29 W18 D8 L3

McLeish - P29 W21 D6 L2

(Includes any competitive game they are listed as manager on here)

So is it your opinion that his record is comparable? Or do we have to factor in what the rest of the league was like when each manager was there?

[Rumblepack 16]

12 minutes ago, BlueKnight87 said:

Dig into more detail with those stats and you see the major issues. The majority of those loses for murty have been at home. Teams don't fear coming to ibrox anymore.

honest mate thats not murtys fault. that goes way back to the championship season. cant blame murty for that. yea hes not fixed it but its not his fault thats gone.

[RangersMedia 35,961]

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[docspiderman 1,225]

On the other hand if you compare the squads talent which the other managers had, bought and inherited it looks like Murty is a genius.

[The Dude 20,026]

3 minutes ago, gj923 said:

So is it your opinion that his record is comparable? Or do we have to factor in what the rest of the league was like when each manager was there?

My opinion is that his results are, yes. I'd argue we are in a weaker starting position today than we were under any of the others named. We're much closer to the rest - and further behind celtic - than arguably any point since Souness took over.

[Drunk and disorderly. 14,418]

We crashed to our seventh home defeat in the league for the first time in 103 years yesterday. Will no doubt add to the shame of that state before seasons end. 

That's 21 points, enough to have won us the league, instead we are getting ripped a new arse at home by any team that that can counter attack.

Murty is elastoplast  on a broken leg. Not the long  term answer. It's vital we get a seasoned manager in. 

[The Dude 20,026]

1 minute ago, Drunk and disorderly. said:

We crashed to our seventh home defeat in the league for the first time in 103 years yesterday. Will no doubt add to the shame of that state before seasons end. 

That's 21 points, enough to have won us the league, instead we are getting ripped a new arse at home by any team that that can counter attack.

Murty is elastoplast  on a broken leg. Not the long  term answer. It's vital we get a seasoned manager in. 

We did that with Advocaat and after the same number of games (and nearly £30m on transfers) he won fewer games. John Hughes is a seasoned manager ffs, would he fit the bill?

[gmcf 34,132]

8 minutes ago, Rumblepack said:

honest mate thats not murtys fault. that goes way back to the championship season. cant blame murty for that. yea hes not fixed it but its not his fault thats gone.

I'd say it goes back further than that . 

It is , however ,  something that has to be sorted if we have any aspirations of challenging for the title . If Murty can't sort it , we need someone who can . 

[Rumblepack 16]

2 minutes ago, gmcf said:

I'd say it goes back further than that . 

yeah for sure could be

[thehost 11,061]

1. hes not a fucking manager

2. he has not on the league

 

that's all I need to know

[gmcf 34,132]

59 minutes ago, The Dude said:

I posted similar after 20 games comparing Murty's record with Walter Smith. Someone asked this morning where it stands now so I've compiled their records after 29 (how many Murty has managed) and added McLeish, Souness and Advocaat in to see just where he should be performing.

Murty - P29 W19 D2 L8

Souness - P29 W20 D4 L5

Smith - P29 W18 D4 L7

Advocaat - P29 W18 D8 L3

McLeish - P29 W21 D6 L2

(Includes any competitive game they are listed as manager on here)

Interesting that in recent times we had many managers that won the title in their first season . Just off the top of my head , but I reckon you must be going back to Jock Wallace back in 1972/73 who didn't , but then went on to do so . 

[Ibroxric72 199]

Murty’s stats are better than Walter, wow.

[Prso's headband 35,426]

Doesn’t matter, it’s the manner we’re losing games in. 

I’d like to see the losses of each manager to who and if it was home and away. 

[Jack The Flipper 5,936]

Every one of those managers except from Murty could win the games that actually matter.