pcbear 10,913 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 E/W Mid-Outsiders for me Minella Rocco 14/1 Vieux Lion Rouge 28/1 Chase The Spud 50/1 Warriors Tale 50/1 PP pays 2/3/4/5/6 e/w Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,899 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Raz De mee is solid on the form book. 2nd to native river in last year's Welsh national (native river has since won the gold cup) and then raz de mee went back to.chepstow this year and won the Welsh national. If it stays around 25s and the ground is soft or worse then I'm on it ew Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,913 Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: Raz De mee is solid on the form book. 2nd to native river in last year's Welsh national (native river has since won the gold cup) and then raz de mee went back to.chepstow this year and won the Welsh national. If it stays around 25s and the ground is soft or worse then I'm on it ew 28's with PP, Its Raz De Maree RFC55 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,899 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, pcbear said: 28's with PP, Its Raz De Maree That was my phone changing it mate But aye if it's soft ground or heavy im.on that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Is @born a blue nose not running a book as well as a bus? ForeverAndEver 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,765 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, bigsasasfloopyhair said: Is @born a blue nose not running a book as well as a bus? Flights and accommodation too Bigsasasfloppyhair 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, born a blue nose said: Flights and accommodation too Great service BABN. That’s why you’re social convener ? born a blue nose 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,057 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Rfc52 said: Raz De mee is solid on the form book. 2nd to native river in last year's Welsh national (native river has since won the gold cup) and then raz de mee went back to.chepstow this year and won the Welsh national. If it stays around 25s and the ground is soft or worse then I'm on it ew It's hard to argue with that form but I'm sure it's 12yr old....stats for 12yr olds aren't the best....going with the native river form brings aniable fly into the reckoning, the handicapper has already stated that on that run alone it is 7lb better off than it should be. RFC55 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,899 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, hammer93 said: It's hard to argue with that form but I'm sure it's 12yr old....stats for 12yr olds aren't the best....going with the native river form brings aniable fly into the reckoning, the handicapper has already stated that on that run alone it is 7lb better off than it should be. Just think that it's style will suit the race. It won't be in it till around 6 out as it will be switched off out the middle to back. If it's still standing it will be staying on as others fade. With 6 places it's basically a 5/1 winner just getting placed. Also quite like The Dutchman but it had a shocker at haydock last time.out but then so did blaklion and it's still one of the favourites. However both of them won very well previously to that. I don't take it serious as a betting prospect. Around 5 or 10 quid ew on one or 2 value bets. I leave the national for those that enjoy their one race a year bet hammer93 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,057 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: Just think that it's style will suit the race. It won't be in it till around 6 out as it will be switched off out the middle to back. If it's still standing it will be staying on as others fade. With 6 places it's basically a 5/1 winner just getting placed. Also quite like The Dutchman but it had a shocker at haydock last time.out but then so did blaklion and it's still one of the favourites. However both of them won very well previously to that. I don't take it serious as a betting prospect. Around 5 or 10 quid ew on one or 2 value bets. I leave the national for those that enjoy their one race a year bet I agree....I say every year after I lose that I'm only backing one horse next year as it's a travesty of a race....then I go and back about 4?? On a serious note though the dynamics of the race have changed in the last while more times than not it is a well fancied horse that wins the race these days....yeah you will always get the odd loud price every so often but the betting is a general good indication these days.? RFC55 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,899 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, hammer93 said: I agree....I say every year after I lose that I'm only backing one horse next year as it's a travesty of a race....then I go and back about 4?? On a serious note though the dynamics of the race have changed in the last while more times than not it is a well fancied horse that wins the race these days....yeah you will always get the odd loud price every so often but the betting is a general good indication these days.? Since they've made the fences easier it's lost it's anything can happen. The soft/heavy ground this time round could.make it a bit of a lottery hammer93 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,057 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Yip....reducing the danger element certainly helps the better horses get clearer rounds of jumping......is the going been classed as soft to heavy or is rain forecast? RFC55 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie1963 2,352 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 On heavy ground have a horse under 11stone. Know hee haw about it but the bloke on the radio said so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,899 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, hammer93 said: Yip....reducing the danger element certainly helps the better horses get clearer rounds of jumping......is the going been classed as soft to heavy or is rain forecast? At the moment its soft good to soft in places. Unsure of the forecast. But the national course will cut up as it's to be used tomorrow and Friday hammer93 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,057 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Rfc52 said: At the moment its soft good to soft in places. Unsure of the forecast. But the national course will cut up as it's to be used tomorrow and Friday Cheers bud, aniable fly for me then if it will be similar conditions to Cheltenham ? RFC55 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,899 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, hammer93 said: Cheers bud, aniable fly for me then if it will be similar conditions to Cheltenham ? I'll change my mind 6 tines before Saturday hammer93 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,057 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: I'll change my mind 6 tines before Saturday Then your 1st pick will bounce in??? RFC55 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I have it on good authority a Horse with some wee jockey on it will win. No need to thank me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,765 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 13 hours ago, bigsasasfloopyhair said: Is @born a blue nose not running a book as well as a bus? Not letting me delete the bastarding quote Bigsasasfloppyhair 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 3,872 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 It’s honestly just too much of a lottery to seriously bet on it. You used to be able to pick the winner from 8 horses, now about 25 can win it! Last winner I backed was Neptune, which was 33/1. Only got that on the basis that a lass from our village was shagging someone who worked in the stables! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedylan 11,555 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I have being doing a bet on the Grand National for over 40 years...never picked a winner and am probably the only man who never placed a bet on Red Rum at least once.Better still a guy who was in my class at school horse won it(Montys Pass)I bet on something else ffs..I will give you my tip tomorrow after I study the form? hammer93 and born a blue nose 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,057 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 59 minutes ago, bluedylan said: I have being doing a bet on the Grand National for over 40 years...never picked a winner and am probably the only man who never placed a bet on Red Rum at least once.Better still a guy who was in my class at school horse won it(Montys Pass)I bet on something else ffs..I will give you my tip tomorrow after I study the form? I backed montys pass...Barry Gerghaty was the jockey....that was the only reason I backed it because Gerghaty had just won the top jockey at Cheltenham the previous month? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jintybear 8,536 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I always bet each way and up until 11 years ago I won something every year. 11 years ago I got married on the Friday and the grand national was on the Saturday. I bet 2 horses each way one was around 80-1 and one was 33-1, they were both names associated with my wedding - they both were placed and I won over £100. That was the last ever time I ever won. The moral of the story is if you want to stay lucky don't get married!!! richles1872 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedylan 11,555 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 35 minutes ago, hammer93 said: I backed montys pass...Barry Gerghaty was the jockey....that was the only reason I backed it because Gerghaty had just won the top jockey at Cheltenham the previous month? Yeah the whole town was on it except me ffs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
10pshortof17pound 2,492 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 58 minutes ago, jintybear said: I always bet each way and up until 11 years ago I won something every year. 11 years ago I got married on the Friday and the grand national was on the Saturday. I bet 2 horses each way one was around 80-1 and one was 33-1, they were both names associated with my wedding - they both were placed and I won over £100. That was the last ever time I ever won. The moral of the story is if you want to stay lucky don't get married!!! Don't tell me you hitched a poor soul called McKelvey and he got Slim Pickings on his wedding night !!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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