CooperSF 5,792 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Quote Footage of a bear performing in front of fans before a Russian league match has been condemned as "shocking and inhumane" by animal welfare groups. A YouTube video showed circus bear 'Tim' hand the ball to the referee before the third-tier game between Mashuk-KMV and Angusht in Pyatigorsk. The bear is then seen clapping to fans while stood on his hind legs. Fifa denied claims from the away side that the bear was to be used in the opening ceremony of the World Cup. Russia hosts the 2018 World Cup from 14 June. "In addition to being inhumane and utterly out of touch, using a bear as a captive servant to deliver a football is downright dangerous," Elisa Allen, director of animal welfare charity Peta, said. "The bear is the symbol of Russia, so we hope the country's people will show some compassion and national pride and stop abusing them. Common decency should compel the league to pull this stunt." The incident was cited as an example of animal exploitation that is still prevalent around the world. "While some supposedly find this depressing scene 'entertaining' there is nothing at all light-hearted about this kind of abuse," Brian da Cal, country director of Four Paws UK, added. "Bears are wild animals and as such have very specific and complex needs. "Being chained up, muzzled and forced to perform unnatural acts in front of large, rowdy crowds of people causes tremendous stress and can have an untold impact on these animals, both psychological and physical." http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43783325 At least Tim performs for a paying crowd... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser1041 9,088 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Fucking disgusting Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 18,746 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I laughed when he clapped his hands to get the crowd going. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 About 10 years ago worked with an Albanian, who told me how much he used to enjoy the dancing bear at the local fair I was quite shocked and asked if the bear was tethered and chained and he said yes, without any real emotion or reaction and he was still smiling at his inocent childhood memories. So there's the problem, different cultures see things differently and many accept their traditions as standard, and unfortunately many of these traditions threaten the natural ways of animals. And even our culture accepts abuse of animals as a culture. Badger baiting, cock fighting all go on around this country, the police don't really get involved. Then there's even events in our cultural calendars where the traditions mean more than the needless suffering, fox hunting of course, and I noticed that there was much happiness that the horse at the Grand National at Aintree who got injured wasn't shot. Not much mention that another horse had to be shot earlier in the week. So what do you do ? Yo u get angry. Yes. You accept that different cultures in different countries abuse animals in their own ways. Yes again. What you do to try and prevent these ? Highlight them, explain why they are wrong morally, and if you feel strongly write or email the relevant embassies, email the president of the Russian football club. Some might say boycott these countries, personally I think it's better to visit and explain your feelings, communicate with like minded people in those countries with support, explain why it is wrong and gain their respect. That bear is almost certainly drugged and tranquilised, and will be kept chained and probably drugged at "home". God knows how many admonishments and punishment he had before he learned to perform the clapping trick. Kaydubya11 and adamtricky 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Theulstervolunteer 1,859 Posted April 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2018 Would like to see this in the next OF game tbh then the bear loses his shit and eats The lego muncher.....after raping him of course.... Skyson1872, SwallowsHisOwnSpunk, LOL153 No Surrender!!! and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperPapac05 3,383 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 A Bear called 'Tim'? They Russian having a laugh at us? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter-of-Smith 566 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 3 hours ago, G.E.C. said: I laughed when he clapped his hands to get the crowd going. lol it's standing there clapping away with that distinct "kill me now" face. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siam69 26,872 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Repugnant! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post K.A.I 36,183 Posted April 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2018 Horrible bastards in all honesty. I've seen the methods they use to get the Bears to do the most simple of tasks ... same with elephants as babies in the circus and some zoo's, tie their feet to the ground with rope and electrocute them into standing up. Horrible fucking cunts. BridgeIsBlue, Kaydubya11, Skyson1872 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big blue Fin 3,724 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 The Russians are fucking cunts. Get the bear signed though, we could do with some bite in midfield. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangecountry 148 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Any worse than what you see at deep sea world or in zoo's? We all know keeping killer whales, massive animals in tiny tanks, is wrong. Keeping multiple sharks in small enclosures. Parrots in small cages. Lions and tigers and bears (oh my) in pathetically small enclosures cute as fuck but... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 hour ago, orangecountry said: Any worse than what you see at deep sea world or in zoo's? We all know keeping killer whales, massive animals in tiny tanks, is wrong. Keeping multiple sharks in small enclosures. Parrots in small cages. Lions and tigers and bears (oh my) in pathetically small enclosures cute as fuck but... Of course it's worse ffs the whales, lions etc don't get battered and tortured into doing tricks, they're expected to sit there in cages, tanks and plains of grass so people can look at them. There's an argument for them not being in captivity, but captivity doesn't equal torture and physical abuse. Thewhitesettler 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEE 4,880 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Is it just me that thinks this is amazing and they should try having 11 a side with bears? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangecountry 148 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 11 hours ago, K.A.I said: Of course it's worse ffs the whales, lions etc don't get battered and tortured into doing tricks, they're expected to sit there in cages, tanks and plains of grass so people can look at them. There's an argument for them not being in captivity, but captivity doesn't equal torture and physical abuse. Have you seen black fish? It's on net flix Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 We have Broxi every second week, in fact his whole fecking family!....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALerone 633 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 On 18/04/2018 at 07:00, orangecountry said: Have you seen black fish? It's on net flix Horrific, when the poacher explained the parents distress when seperated ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Soprano 13,964 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Awful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,519 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Where was it a few years ago a video came out of a bear on a bicycle and it fell off the bike and ate the monkey at the side of the circus ring? EatDolphins 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangecountry 148 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 16 hours ago, ALerone said: Horrific, when the poacher explained the parents distress when seperated ? Exactly my point. More than one form of torture ALerone 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Soprano 13,964 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, McEwan's Lager said: Where was it a few years ago a video came out of a bear on a bicycle and it fell off the bike and ate the monkey at the side of the circus ring? Parkheid? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, orangecountry said: Exactly my point. More than one form of torture The vast majority of animals are born in captivity though, so there's not much seperation going on. In that case, is farming cruel? do you refuse to eat meat in protest? ... or owned a dog? because the puppies get seperated from their mothers at a young age too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangecountry 148 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, K.A.I said: The vast majority of animals are born in captivity though, so there's not much seperation going on. In that case, is farming cruel? do you refuse to eat meat in protest? ... or owned a dog? because the puppies get seperated from their mothers at a young age too. Is farming cruel? Yes. Battery chickens, locked up in tiny enclosures fed to extremes. Do I eat meat? Yes. Doesn't mean I agree with the practices from farm to plate. Remember, my point is a trained bear is little different from any other performing monkey you'll see in zoo's etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertzLoyalRSC 18,069 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 4 hours ago, McEwan's Lager said: Where was it a few years ago a video came out of a bear on a bicycle and it fell off the bike and ate the monkey at the side of the circus ring? Am I a terrible person because I really want to see this?? siddiqi_drinker 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EatDolphins 5,355 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 7 hours ago, McEwan's Lager said: Where was it a few years ago a video came out of a bear on a bicycle and it fell off the bike and ate the monkey at the side of the circus ring? I can't stop laughing at that ?? AlbertzLoyalRSC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,519 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 hours ago, AlbertzLoyalRSC said: Am I a terrible person because I really want to see this?? 12 minutes ago, EatDolphins said: I can't stop laughing at that ?? China. It's horrendous tbh. Would have liked to have seen the bear go the trainers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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