Talksport talking about Sundays chaos

[CoatbridgeBear 7,113]

Jim Shite saying he’s received info apparently the Rangers players knew they were ‘lambs to the slaughter’ before the game started, whatever the fuck that means. Said more & more is coming out...

[left winger 14,125]

I think most of us knew that, to be fair.

[CoatbridgeBear 7,113]

Just now, left winger said:

I think most of us knew that, to be fair.

Fucks that mean? That they knew they were fucked before it started?

[Sparkle 53,530]

1 minute ago, CoatbridgeBear said:

Fucks that mean? That they knew they were fucked before it started?

Yeah, they had no belief. Don't know if it specifically means in themselves as individuals or as a team given the way they set up.. I'd go for the second option.

 

[The Specky Forum Organiser 64,478]

Taking that to mean they knew our tactics were a disgrace so they didn't bother trying

[cushynumber 25,178]

another reneging of personal responsibility " a big boy did it and ran away". Are the players seriously trying to suggest that the game was taken out their hands prior to kick off? 

[cushynumber 25,178]

the modern player makes me sick. Its absolutely any excuse to blame someone else for their own shortcomings.

[Lloyd 10,756]

1 minute ago, cushynumber said:

another reneging of personal responsibility " a big boy did it and ran away". Are the players seriously trying to suggest that the game was taken out their hands prior to kick off? 

Shitebags to a man.

[left winger 14,125]

3 minutes ago, CoatbridgeBear said:

Fucks that mean? That they knew they were fucked before it started?

Did you think we were going to win? I didn't, and I would imagine most of us didn't, once we took away bravado.

Regarding the players, I don't know about before the match. But as soon as they scored I reckon each, and every one of them knew we weren't coming back.

 

[Big Al 55 9,241]

3 minutes ago, cushynumber said:

another reneging of personal responsibility " a big boy did it and ran away". Are the players seriously trying to suggest that the game was taken out their hands prior to kick off? 

It was...the formation, team selection and tactics didn't allow us to compete. We all knew that after 5 minutes.

[Ivybank 4,577]

players knew because:

the tactics

physically weak midfield players

martin/ mccrorie at the back

and they knew they couldn't beat them with 10 men, so no chance with 11

[DrLaudrup 4,572]

1 minute ago, left winger said:

Did you think we were going to win? I didn't, and I would imagine most of us didn't, once we took away bravado.

Regarding the players, I don't know about before the match. But as soon as they scored I reckon each, and every one of them knew we weren't coming back.

 

I didn’t think we would win, but seeing our players failing to chase every ball and run themselves into the ground disgusted me. Murty is responsible for team selections and tactics but individuals need to take responsibility for their own effort and desire. 

[RedWhiteBlue1872 407]

Could see it a mile away, the team selection was horrible.

I was stupidly a little optimistic and looking forward to it and that lineup genuinely sapped all enthusiasm and confidence I had.

I know a bit about football but even a blind budgie could have told you that team was setting up for a disaster.... 

McCrorie instead of a guy with 95 caps for Portugal - that worked well.

That midfield - just fucking baffling.... Docherty and Halliday in the middle of the park. Two guys who cant string a pass between them and one had barely played since Feb.

The reactions and performance tells me the players did feel this, although the level of the actual performance was horrific.

[RedWhiteBlue1872 407]

7 minutes ago, cushynumber said:

another reneging of personal responsibility " a big boy did it and ran away". Are the players seriously trying to suggest that the game was taken out their hands prior to kick off? 

It was - we should have beat them at Ibrox in a different setup so why change it?

The selection and lineup was a total disaster and everybody could see that.

Players were shite and are shite but give them a chance.

[born a blue nose 90,721]

If true then the people responsible should be hounded out of Ibrox and never allowed to return. 

Guilty parties should be looked upon as fenians 

[Lloyd 10,756]

1 minute ago, RedWhiteBlue1872 said:

Could see it a mile away, the team selection was horrible.

I was stupidly a little optimistic and looking forward to it and that lineup genuinely sapped all enthusiasm and confidence I had.

I know a bit about football but even a blind budgie could have told you that team was setting up for a disaster.... 

McCrorie instead of a guy with 95 caps for Portugal - that worked well.

That midfield - just fucking baffling.... Docherty and Halliday in the middle of the park. Two guys who cant string a pass between them and one had barely played since Feb.

The reactions and performance tells me the players did feel this, although the level of the actual performance was horrific.

I don’t give a fuck how many caps Alves has for Portugal he’s been gash since he arrive. Should have started ahead of Martin because he’s even worse but not Mccrorie no chance.

[cushynumber 25,178]

Just now, Big Al II said:

It was...the formation, team selection and tactics didn't allow us to compete. We all knew that after 5 minutes.

the formation, team selection and tactics were all wrong. however, I fail to see that as an excuse for the capitulation I saw on Sunday. I keep harping back to individual pride and responsibility. For example, if Halliday is having a mare and is the wrong man, that should not stop Candeias tracking back and winning his own personal battle - and that applies to everyone in the team.

I get that there is a responsibility that lies with Murty - but those players need to take a look at themselves for how they conducted themselves both on and off the pitch.

[BlearyEyedBear 4,148]

Donkeys led by donkeys.

[Bristol loyal 6,248]

8 minutes ago, Goosetav said:

Taking that to mean they knew our tactics were a disgrace so they didn't bother trying

Could see from the second the game kicked off they didn’t want to be there. For all murtys wrongs tactically there’s no excuse for not giving 100% especially in such an important game that means so much. The players on the pitch were a fucking disgrace just as much as murty was.

[BLUEDIGNITY 33,638]

Getting mer embarrassing as the various spun stories are leaked or made up, you choose! Jimbo has cantscoreino on to chip in his tuppence worth as well, should be interesting. 

[pcbear 10,913]

Only teasers to date JW says to be discussed later.

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,626]

As far as I saw we went 451 and still got over run in midfield. That was largely due to a lack of effort, awareness and tackling by the midfield 5.

I cannot see how with 5 in midfield our players predicted the game would be lost when it was lost in a midfield we had numerical advantage.

Either there's been barnies in the run up or dressing room before the game (for me likeliest as all 11 players were miles off pace from kick off ) or the players just failed to even try to make Murtys tactics work.

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

So the tactics and the manager meant they couldn’t even put in a battling performance and at least kick a few scum cunts on the way. 

[Big Al 55 9,241]

5 minutes ago, cushynumber said:

the formation, team selection and tactics were all wrong. however, I fail to see that as an excuse for the capitulation I saw on Sunday. I keep harping back to individual pride and responsibility. For example, if Halliday is having a mare and is the wrong man, that should not stop Candeias tracking back and winning his own personal battle - and that applies to everyone in the team.

I get that there is a responsibility that lies with Murty - but those players need to take a look at themselves for how they conducted themselves both on and off the pitch.

It's no excuse for not trying...what I saw were players who couldn't get close enough to the celtic players as a result of the formation no amount of effort was changing that.

They weren't given a chance to compete, it's not surprising they were dejected. But I agree that's not good enough either.

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

13 minutes ago, left winger said:

Did you think we were going to win? I didn't, and I would imagine most of us didn't, once we took away bravado.

Regarding the players, I don't know about before the match. But as soon as they scored I reckon each, and every one of them knew we weren't coming back.

 

So it's ok for them just to lie dowm?

They should have been in there, no prisoners, win, lose or draw. 

Not turning up against any team is a crime. Not turning up against the scum is a hanging offence. Spineless bastards.