BridgeIsBlue 66,498 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 A former youth footballer who says he was sexually abused by a Rangers coach has been told by the club he should pursue his complaint with liquidators. The man claims he was abused within the Ibrox stadium by Gordon Neely who was head of youth development in the 1980s. But the alleged victim has been told by lawyers for Rangers that the duty of care is not with the current owners. They said that when the abuse took place Rangers were owned by a different company which was now in liquidation. The man, who is in his 40s, was offered help in accessing counselling services, but no apology was made in correspondence from the club's lawyers. An email sent to the solicitors of David - not his real name - explained: "You will understand that there have been many changes affecting Rangers over the last several years. "The company which owned Rangers Football Club.... which you refer to as owing duties of care to your client will have been the company then called The Rangers Football Club PLC and now called RFC 2012 Limited. "That company is currently in liquidation but we do have the liquidators' contact details and can provide that information if it will assist." Last year the BBC revealed a catalogue of alleged abuse by Neely at various clubs, but he died in 2014 before facing justice. He was in youth development at Hibs in 1983 and then moved to a similar role at Rangers in 1986. That is where he came into contact with 11-year-old David. He spoke to the BBC about his boyhood dream of playing at Ibrox: "I came from a working class family to be invited in your full Rangers tracksuit and shown about the stadium, walking up the marble stair case. It was a huge, huge event for me and my family." David trained at the club for three years, but he said his encounter with Neely in his youth would have a terrible and lasting impact on his life. He explained: "[An] injury I was carrying was having a detrimental effect on my game and I was basically summoned to Gordon Neely's room, within the confines of Ibrox. "He asked me to lay up on top of like a blue medical table, sort of dark, dark blue and he started rubbing my thigh, even though my injury was my hamstring. "That happened for a minute or two, discussing the in and outs of why I wasn't playing so well. He then asked me to stand up and bend over the medical table and take my shorts down." David says he was then sexually assaulted by Neely. He added: "I've racked my brain for years and years to think 'was this a normal thing to do?' Obviously I know now that it's not. "My life basically fell apart that night. Everything changed, everything changed that night. The heart went out of me for playing football, academically I stopped doing so well at school." Almost two years ago, David, who is a season ticket holder at Ibrox, spoke to a solicitor about the alleged abuse and was advised to make a claim against Rangers. Rangers' lawyers said the club offered its "deepest concern", however, it made it clear that any compensation claim would be for the liquidators of the company which had previously owned the club. David told the BBC: "My issue's always been that they may be a …different legal entity, but they're still the same club. And although they don't have the same maybe liability legally, certainly morally they're still the same club." A statement from Rangers Football Club said they would "co-operate fully" with all those who had a "genuine interest" in seeking to protect children and "addressing the wrongs" of what had happened in the past. It said that both the Scottish FA and Police Scotland had been informed of the matter. The statement added: "It is vital matters are dealt with sensitively and with proper care and regard for those involved. "We will not respond to questions that seek to turn allegations of desperate and deplorable conduct from three or more decades ago into cheap and nasty attacks on Rangers Football Club, and those of its employees who now have to attend to such difficult matters." Pat Mair from Scottish charity Talk Now which counsels victims of sexual abuse has worked with adults who suffered in childhood. She said: "The survivors are looking for acknowledgment, they're looking for communication with the football clubs where they were abused. "The abuse happened at Rangers Football Club but they are not taking any responsibility and it's as if they're not accountable for it." David said he wanted "someone from Rangers" to contact him so he could tell them his story. He went on: "And I'd like them to sit there and listen to me and realise the impact that it's had and get an apology off them face-to-face. That's my real goal." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-44126217 I seriously hope the club haven't tried to do what is being alluded to there, heads have to roll if it is indeed the case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueVanguard 6,399 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 BBC just dont stop with the shite against our club. I think the club responded in a fair way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guardian 4,281 Posted May 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2018 Since the club knew nothing of it and unlike the filthy tarriers, didn't cover it up, I can't see how they would be accountable. Just the BBC trying to drag Rangers into the news since Torbetts trial is coming up and the scum are in for a pasting over that. ritchieshearercaldow, OhW, WATP-FOREVER and 16 others 19 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bydo 3,205 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Absolutely fucking stinking. 8 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: David told the BBC: "My issue's always been that they may be a …different legal entity, but they're still the same club. And although they don't have the same maybe liability legally, certainly morally they're still the same club." That bit especially. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kplfishtank 4,652 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I was wondering when this would come out. Known about it for a while. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyaleastend 3,260 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Just show you how many of the manky cunts work for the beeb Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 59,870 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 The timing of this is no coincidence. Would someone really claim "we're a new Club" in anyway shape or form..?? It will be questions in Holyrood next.. I was half joking when I posted about the c****c PR monster going all out to deny their guilt and it seems I wasn't wrong. Deny and deflect..But always bring Rangers into it and damage the Brand no matter the cost.. Thermopylae, Bears r us, Bobby Hume and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 22,459 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Quite a coincidence BBC Scotland trot this out as we await the verdict on the Paedo ring at the piggery. Getting their retaliation in first, anyone? Blue Is The Only Colour, Blumhoilann and Bad Robot 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Perfect timing for this story to be released so the "aye butters" can have a deflection tactic when the shit hits the fan at their sordid club. Bobby Hume and TEFTONG 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebovril 110 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Guardian said: Since the club knew nothing of it and unlike the filthy tarriers, didn't cover it up, I can't see how they would be accountable. Just the BBC trying to drag Rangers into the news since Torbetts trial is coming up and the scum are in for a pasting over that. When is his trial bud.just so I can judge the media interest in them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Colin Traive said: Quite a coincidence BBC Scotland trot this out as we await the verdict on the Paedo ring at the piggery. Getting their retaliation in first, anyone? Of course they are, you would need to be blind not to see it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 “Last year the BBC revealed a catalogue of alleged abuse by Neely at various clubs,but he died in 2014 before facing justice. ” Who made the bbc judge and jury? This guy does look as if he is guilty but all the information I’m getting is from the same media outlet the bbc. The newspapers are then reiterating the same bbc narrative. At the end of the day this guy deserves the same as everyone else, innocent until proven guilty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyaleastend 3,260 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said: “Last year the BBC revealed a catalogue of alleged abuse by Neely at various clubs,” Who made the bbc judge and jury? This guy does look as if he is guilty but all the information I’m getting is from the same media outlet the bbc. The newspapers are then reiterating the same bbc narrative. At the end of the day this guy deserves the same as everyone else, innocent until proven guilty. The BBC are a Marxist cartel, objectivism fled their offices years ago. Howsitgoing and Bears 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheGovanIniesta 1,000 Posted May 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2018 This is disingenuous beyond belief No mention of Hibs failure to inform the police about Neely or Rangers before joining us, potentially saving children's lives from ever being ruined Tries to paint a picture that he contacted us and we said 'we're deed, you aren't entitled to anything, fuck off, we don't care' In actual fact we advised he pursue correctly to get the compensation he's entitled to and condemned it, while stating specifically it's vital this isn't used against the club or those abused to build some fantasy Bit better than, 'It wasn't us in charge, we didn't know about it, we phoned the police, we didn't abuse children and cover it up like some, but sorry' Not sure what sort of so-called Rangers fan would even play a part in this considering it's just a ploy to deflect attention from the real child abuse story It would be interesting to discover if celtic changed companies to avoid compensation and being held fully responsible for the inevitable house of cards falling down Copland bear, DariuszAdamczuk, Blumhoilann and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris182 6,186 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 They don’t even hide their alignment with the paedos across the city. Be interesting to see the fall out from the real scandal... dmc74 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus 1,370 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Also the bit I found so strange is that even though everything he has allegedly gone through, he is a season ticket holder..!! Blumhoilann 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheGovanIniesta 1,000 Posted May 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2018 if this is the route this is going down we should just push for a full independent inquiry into ALL Scottish clubs while it's still all being talked about, celtic and the rest releasing statement after statement in the last 6 years about us shows it can be done easily Hibs and celtic will be fucked while we have nothing to hide The only people with the platform to push back is the club and if they don't this is buried for good, bit of a no brainer really, why hasn't it been done already? Blue Rino, gbm1989, offshoreworker and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLaudrup 4,437 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I sympathise deeply with him, people that do this are the lowest of the low and should face the full force of the law. However it is becoming ridiculous - anything will be kept to ensure that negative publicity surrounding our club continues. In this case the story has conveniently been kept back 'for a rainy day' and there is no mention of the other clubs involved. Clearly Gerrard and Arfield are bits of good news so lets try immediately to push the club down again. Lets make the SFA charges against us headlines on the news. Lets not talk at all about the misdemeanours of other clubs or push for charges for the assaults on our players (think of the furore when everyone in the mhedia was demanding Naismith be charged for assaulting brown last week). One thing I hope from the Gerrard era is that the club and him will stop holding back in their criticisms of those who are clearly out to harm us. The increased media scrutiny from outwith Scotland will hopefully help show most of these characters up for what they are. The statement last night about the SFA nonsense was a decent start but i'd still rather see a face in front of a camera. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ibrox Derry 8,820 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Watch for the mainstream media blackout of Torbetts trial. I think I will take time off work to sit in the public gallery at the High Court and report everything on shocial mhedia. We've got to take this opportunity and get the truth out there as the mainstream media wont Bad Robot, Spliffy, Loyaleastend and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ryju84 3,170 Posted May 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2018 Correct me if I am wrong... but are they naming Rangers here whereas articles about other teams always just refer to "at the football club..." -no names mentioned. offshoreworker, Blueofblood, Bears and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post SeparateEntityMyArse 53,263 Posted May 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2018 Horrific if true. Let's not play whataboutery. Police informed, check. Now let's ensure this and every instance at every club are probed fully and the findings of police investigations about the bastards who commit such acts and the worse bastards and scum at clubs who concealed or facilitated such acts are highlighted. And hammered. If anyone at Rangers was guilty they deserve punished. As do Rangers if they didn't report it, retained the abuser in employment, or paid off victims / families and allowed such conduct to continue. Let's get this all out there rather than be Scotland's shame. For every club in Scotland. Every detail whilst protecting the identity of the complainer. BlueAvenger, BridgeIsBlue, RZA83 and 28 others 31 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,498 Posted May 16, 2018 Author Share Posted May 16, 2018 When is Torbett's trial btw? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGovanIniesta 1,000 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Just now, BridgeIsBlue said: When is Torbett's trial btw? today I've saw on follow follow, hence the pushed agenda today Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 61,037 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Well said. A statement from Rangers Football Club said they would "co-operate fully" with all those who had a "genuine interest" in seeking to protect children and "addressing the wrongs" of what had happened in the past. Billy1984, BridgeIsBlue and BlueKnight87 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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