plumbGER 24,518 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, Inigo said: We had a general policy of avoiding Catholic players, with a relatively small number of exceptions that were advised to keep it under wraps. There's no point in pretending we freely and openly signed them. We didn't. Do you have written proof of such a policy? Like transcripts from board meetings or such likes? Why would a club freely and openly discuss a players religion upon signing them? That would be a bit bizarre to discuss a private matter like that. BridgeIsBlue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,524 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, plumbGER said: Do you have written proof of such a policy? Like transcripts from board meetings or such likes? Why would a club freely and openly discuss a players religion upon signing them? That would be a bit bizarre to discuss a private matter like that. I know, because I know shareholders (in my family) from the 60s and o wards when there weren't very many shareholders and were familiar with those in the corridors of power. Everyone knows it was the case anyway. I mean, statistically, it's like looking at GCC's choices for Lord provost and claiming it shows nothing. The number of Catholics that we signed was so far below representative that it has to have been, even taking into account the fact that they would likely have been sellic fans. But that's btw. I know it's true from family and and everyone else, if theyre honest with themselves, knows it was the case Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 9 hours ago, sausagetrunks said: He banned me, he bans every cunt who gives him abuse about beating Ulrika etc. That surely must be an enormous amount of bannings, you'd thought he'd have twigged by now his opinions ain't popular. sausagetrunks 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMRFC 4,756 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I hope someone kicks this guys cunt in BridgeIsBlue, sausagetrunks and JohnHardie 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Just now, Inigo said: I know, because I know shareholders (in my family) from the 60s and o wards when there weren't very many shareholders and were familiar with those in the corridors of power. Everyone knows it was the case anyway. I mean, statistically, it's like looking at GCC's choices for Lord provost and claiming it shows nothing. The number of Catholics that we signed was so far below representative that it has to have been, even taking into account the fact that they would likely have been sellic fans. But that's btw. I know it's true from family and and everyone else, if theyre honest with themselves, knows it was the case Plausible but that doesn't prove anything i'm afraid., not really. The fact we actually signed catholics aswell makes it increasingly unlikely that such a rule existed. BridgeIsBlue, corbyloyal84 and dougie76 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakes Pal 5,466 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Inigo said: I know, because I know shareholders (in my family) from the 60s and o wards when there weren't very many shareholders and were familiar with those in the corridors of power. Everyone knows it was the case anyway. I mean, statistically, it's like looking at GCC's choices for Lord provost and claiming it shows nothing. The number of Catholics that we signed was so far below representative that it has to have been, even taking into account the fact that they would likely have been sellic fans. But that's btw. I know it's true from family and and everyone else, if theyre honest with themselves, knows it was the case No debate on this as far as I am concerned. We did not sign Catholics for many a year on a point of principal, we were the Protestant club as opposed to THEM across the city. However this was a time when the only Catholic we could have signed would have been a Scottish one, otherwise known as a celtic fan. With the opening up of borders, the option to sign a Catholic who was not a Fenian became available, and we did so. Personally I do not give a fcuk about a players religion as long as he does the business on the field of play, and I doubt that there are too many Bears out there who would say a bad word about Amo, The Hammer or Caniggia to name but a few in recent years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC Eagle 4,888 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Inigo said: I know, because I know shareholders (in my family) from the 60s and o wards when there weren't very many shareholders and were familiar with those in the corridors of power. Everyone knows it was the case anyway. I mean, statistically, it's like looking at GCC's choices for Lord provost and claiming it shows nothing. The number of Catholics that we signed was so far below representative that it has to have been, even taking into account the fact that they would likely have been sellic fans. But that's btw. I know it's true from family and and everyone else, if theyre honest with themselves, knows it was the case We may not have sought out Catholics but they were as unlikely to have played for us as we were to sign them. They would have been ostracised by their own. Those Catholic players we did sign were treated no differently to any other player. The same cannot be said when it comes to how they treated the manager who is synonymous with their European success. Collymores other point about coloured players needs addressing too. Maybe the name Walter Tull means nothing to him but he would have graced the Rangers shirt but for his sacrifice in the First World War. dougie76 and BridgeIsBlue 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Some people have no shame Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,524 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 36 minutes ago, plumbGER said: Plausible but that doesn't prove anything i'm afraid., not really. The fact we actually signed catholics aswell makes it increasingly unlikely that such a rule existed. Souness talked about it at the time. So did David Holmes. The fact we signed, or tried to sign, so few suggests such a thing did. As I say, the same family member I have previously talked about on here that was involved in the discussions over the new stadium in the 70s told me it was very much something that existed. It was an idea that was accepted by fans up until the 80s. It's only recently it's been made out to be something of a myth. Nothing to be ashamed of. Things were different back then. But it's how it was. Collymore's hypocrisy and selective offendedness is the issue Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,524 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 ...and his horseshit regards how we were founded. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,524 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 ...and that sellic pretty much started the sectarianism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Inigo you are talking pish we’ve always signed catholic players a manager on one of my sites surname O’Brian raised Catholic but Rangers fan they took him on their books this was the height of the alleged signing policy here I’d bring the signing policy back as Scottish Catholics that support celtic are scum - if it was upto me but people don’t actual know the history BridgeIsBlue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JentleJames 199 Posted May 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2018 What he says about our policy upon being founded is absolute nonsense.celtic of course didnt even exist. We we were founded by 4 young men who thought football looked like an interesting game to play. What happened 50 or 60 years later was reflective of tensions in society, a lot of Irish immigrants arrived seeking work and there was a distrust of them among the native population much in the same way you see in England just now with the situation that caused Brexit, society has moved on and the Football club moved on with it, I don’t care what religion a player is if they love playing for Rangers and I think most fans are the same. Football clubs will ultimately always reflect society. bluedylan, BridgeIsBlue, Dazzler and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
folkestoneger 7,972 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Inigo said: ...and that sellic pretty much started the sectarianism. Actually Hivs started the secrarianism dougie76 and BridgeIsBlue 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,524 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, folkestoneger said: Actually Hivs started the secrarianism Well yeah, but they're too wee to matter. Bears 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billym27 315 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 what a fuckin mongo. should just ignore him...he's starved of attention. what a vile little man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,524 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Inigo you are talking pish we’ve always signed catholic players a manager on one of my sites surname O’Brian raised Catholic but Rangers fan they took him on their books this was the height of the alleged signing policy here I’d bring the signing policy back as Scottish Catholics that support celtic are scum - if it was upto me but people don’t actual know the history Never said we didn't sign them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Inigo said: Never said we didn't sign them. What are you saying then? Apologies if I’ve came in late and only caught something out of context BridgeIsBlue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, Inigo said: Souness talked about it at the time. So did David Holmes. The fact we signed, or tried to sign, so few suggests such a thing did. As I say, the same family member I have previously talked about on here that was involved in the discussions over the new stadium in the 70s told me it was very much something that existed. It was an idea that was accepted by fans up until the 80s. It's only recently it's been made out to be something of a myth. Nothing to be ashamed of. Things were different back then. But it's how it was. Collymore's hypocrisy and selective offendedness is the issue Yes i would rather focus on the matter at hand and that is the arsehole Collymore. Inigo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,524 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Just now, K.A.I said: What are you saying then? Apologies if I’ve came in late and only caught something out of context I've said we did sign some, but they there was a general stated policy of avoiding them. That there was a sectarian element to our recruitment, but that it wasn't quite as all consuming as many that hate us make out, and evening it was, it was 30 years ago that it ended and others are allowed to move on from questionable history, yet we are not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,524 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, plumbGER said: Yes i would rather focus on the matter at hand and that is the arsehole Collymore. Indeed. This is all besides the point that he's still wrong in what he says AND a hypocrite. plumbGER and Laudrupsleftfoot 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, Inigo said: I've said we did sign some, but they there was a general stated policy of avoiding them. That there was a sectarian element to our recruitment, but that it wasn't quite as all consuming as many that hate us make out, and evening it was, it was 30 years ago that it ended and others are allowed to move on from questionable history, yet we are not. No I was right first time you are taking pish as who I’m on about fell in that period Don’t get me wrong there was a scout that passed up on McGrain because it was a fenian name when he was a bluenose but it’s never been policy - the odd scout maybe dougie76 and BridgeIsBlue 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 10,586 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 57 minutes ago, RFC Eagle said: Collymores other point about coloured players needs addressing too. Fuck sake Inigo is spot on here by the way, and Collymore should be forced into retracting his comments on why we were formed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 2 hours ago, gsa said: No, like Neil Lennon his "illness" will never result in suicide. Thankfully. I've known people unfortunate enough to really suffer and the attention seeking, baiting, aggression and "poor little me" behaviour of Lennon and Collymore is not depression. It's two bitter, sad little bullies, looking for excuses for their behaviour. did not say he was depressed but showing the manifestation of his BPD and lots of PD's go on to destroy themselves. Lennon is a nobhead and uses mental illness as an excuse when he has made a cunt of it. gsa 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,524 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 minute ago, K.A.I said: No I was right first time you are taking pish as who I’m on about fell in that period Don’t get me wrong there was a scout that passed up on McGrain because it was a fenian name when he was a bluenose but it’s never been policy - the odd scout maybe Nup, it has been. Don't know about that specific case, but it was policy to avoid them. As both Souness and Holmes suggested in the 80s. As my family member was aware of earlier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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