RFC55 107,758 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Right own up, who kidnapped BA and is using his account. Nobody has that much of a turn around No wonder a lot of people are suspicious of the account. Defo something no right imo KWBear, BridgeIsBlue and Courtyard Bear 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 70,939 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 When he came back from his day bam he changed straight away ? .Williamson. and Fred H Crawford 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,201 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Goosetav said: Wait, I've got BA on ignore, is he pro King now? Sounds smitten. It's summer and love is in the air. Had a few drinks with Dave and reading between the lines BA went all the way on the first date. Johnny Dangerously 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 21 hours ago, Blue Avenger said: TBH, we should not be questioning any of this. Did we do same when Minty in charge? No, so why are we getting all this questioning with King in charge? Whomever the board/King select should be good enough for all. Are some implying that he wouldn't get the best deal? King more than anyone I would trust to get the best deal. He is certainly no charity and loves money. He will NOT be selling RFC short 100%! What have you been smoking.....? Why in the wide, wide, world of sports would we stop looking at what the board is doing? I hope you are fishing cos if not, you're insane. We must ALWAYS scrutinise EVERY move the board makes or we will just get screwed over again, especially when King is involved. It would take more than some succulent lamb with King to make me trust him. I will consider trusting him when I See us off life support and winning things. Until then he will remain a manipulating scumbag who lied his way into the club. I really hope he proves me wrong but it's been years now and we are still a mess. MattyBlue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 63,951 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 'No, so why are we getting all this questioning with King in charge? Whomever the board/King select should be good enough for all. Are some implying that he wouldn't get the best deal? King more than anyone I would trust to get the best deal. He is certainly no charity and loves money. He will NOT be selling RFC short 100%!' Not a fucking chance did BA say that defo multiple people using that account Courtyard Bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,242 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 9 minutes ago, Goosetav said: 'No, so why are we getting all this questioning with King in charge? Whomever the board/King select should be good enough for all. Are some implying that he wouldn't get the best deal? King more than anyone I would trust to get the best deal. He is certainly no charity and loves money. He will NOT be selling RFC short 100%!' Not a fucking chance did BA say that defo multiple people using that account I think he's bipolar and half of his personality is parody of his other half ? Drunk and disorderly. and The Specky Forum Organiser 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 63,951 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: I think he's bipolar and half of his personality is parody of his other half ? Either way he needs locked up Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,242 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Just now, Goosetav said: Either way he needs locked up Both of him need sectioned. The Specky Forum Organiser 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlearyEyedBear 4,148 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 @Blue Avenger Johnny Dangerously and Vision 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 5 hours ago, Guardian said: What have you been smoking.....? Why in the wide, wide, world of sports would we stop looking at what the board is doing? I hope you are fishing cos if not, you're insane. We must ALWAYS scrutinise EVERY move the board makes or we will just get screwed over again, especially when King is involved. It would take more than some succulent lamb with King to make me trust him. I will consider trusting him when I See us off life support and winning things. Until then he will remain a manipulating scumbag who lied his way into the club. I really hope he proves me wrong but it's been years now and we are still a mess. He did lie his way and took power by deception. He lied to the fans. In fact lied to every cunt. Never out of court. Fucked TOP. Hired incompetent managers. Let us be humiliated by all comers. He actually done much more harm than previous boards in one way. Yet what did we do about it? Yes that's right, fuck all! Moaned a plenty, but that is what we do well. That's what you call scrutiny?! Love the hypocritical rhetoric. Just WTF are you going to scrutinise and WTF are you even qualified to scrutinise? All after the fact of course. Yes, that'll fucking sort it. Every cunt giving it large what a cunt he is, me included and some still at it. Mulling over fucking retail deals when no one actually knew the inside track, far less most can't even fuckng count, going by the posts. All speculative shite. Now it's let's try and unravel the one he himself is setting. Is it 20p in the pound, 30p.... ? Absolutely fucking laughable if it weren't so serious. The fucking irony is palpable. I watched him for several months as the season drew to a close. A lonely and forlorn figure. He was hurting and not looking so well. He is no saint, but he is human. However, he and he alone has made the step change needed and the future is indeed much brighter. He is playing a blinder imo and I do have some insight to where we are heading and it's all Dave King. If you are not getting a good feeling now, then ditch the Mogadon ffs, or forever be a miserable bastard. By all means on all matter board and board room, howl at the moon, scrutinise after the fact and give it large on hindsight and most probably on matters either you and most haven't a fucking clue about, but it gets us absolutely nowhere, apart from arguing and hanging our own and give us a bad name. Time to close ranks and get behind King and this board. Let them do their job, because, it's not like you are going to do something about it if he fails. Are you? There is only one guarantee in life, in that it ends at some point. There is even less in football. Dave King isn't coming up with any miracle cure, but at least he is giving it a real good go. Stay on the crack pipe and miss the revolution. Land Rover and Jonok 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 29 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: I watched him for several months as the season drew to a close. A lonely and forlorn figure. He was hurting and not looking so well. He is no saint, but he is human. What can one say. Johnny Dangerously 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotmeworry 92 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 9 hours ago, insider said: So I spend a hundred quid, the club gets twenty quid? No No No thats not how you do it - use a base of £1 then you can quote 15p from every shirt sold Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barasa 802 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 10 hours ago, insider said: I would like to know what percentage of money for each sale goes directly to the club.? It is my understanding that most retailers take at least 50% of the sale. Manufacturer 30-35%? Which leaves about 15-20%? So I spend a hundred quid, the club gets twenty quid? If we buy from the club shop would JD still be the retailer? I think that's how it works, must be a reason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeneily 1,460 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 10 hours ago, insider said: I would like to know what percentage of money for each sale goes directly to the club.? It is my understanding that most retailers take at least 50% of the sale. Manufacturer 30-35%? Which leaves about 15-20%? So I spend a hundred quid, the club gets twenty quid? One of our firm's specialist areas is retail turnaround and restructure. Looking at typical clients the retail cost/profit structure per £100 income is as follows : sales £100 vat man gets £16.67 supplier gets £40 (retail standard is sales = 2.5 x cost price) shop overheads and wages etc £33.33 (typically a third of turnover) balance left for shop after costs £10.00 or 10p per £1 of sales. This is fine if the directors/shareholders have their salaries covered and get a 10p per £1 dividend but it is insignificant if the retail operation is expected to contribute the meagre surplus to a football club. They real way to make income from sale of products is license income from 3rd party sales, not from running your own retail activity. Virtuoso, K.A.I, Bears r us and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,556 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 52 minutes ago, weeneily said: One of our firm's specialist areas is retail turnaround and restructure. Looking at typical clients the retail cost/profit structure per £100 income is as follows : sales £100 vat man gets £16.67 supplier gets £40 (retail standard is sales = 2.5 x cost price) shop overheads and wages etc £33.33 (typically a third of turnover) balance left for shop after costs £10.00 or 10p per £1 of sales. This is fine if the directors/shareholders have their salaries covered and get a 10p per £1 dividend but it is insignificant if the retail operation is expected to contribute the meagre surplus to a football club. They real way to make income from sale of products is license income from 3rd party sales, not from running your own retail activity. What do you think will happen with our kit sales mate? Any truth in the JD story? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeneily 1,460 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 30 minutes ago, Bears r us said: What do you think will happen with our kit sales mate? Any truth in the JD story? I know that they are definitely going with a retail partner which will be decided by end of July as they are considering a few and I'm sure JD will be in the mix. But they will be relying on the chosen partner to start the IP carrying product process as no supplier may start sampling until that time due to SD having exclusive license rights until that time which is bit of a pain as it takes time to get approval for products considering all the dye and fire retardation certification etc to allow products onto the market. The retail partner will control all aspects of the supply chain so they will have to move quickly to get kits out in any volume within a month or two of the deal being arranged. That's not to say someone hasn't been tipped the wink in advance of course although the commercial department are adamant that no decision has yet been made. Bears r us 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siam69 26,757 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Blue Avenger said: He did lie his way and took power by deception. He lied to the fans. In fact lied to every cunt. Never out of court. Fucked TOP. Hired incompetent managers. Let us be humiliated by all comers. He actually done much more harm than previous boards in one way. Yet what did we do about it? Yes that's right, fuck all! Moaned a plenty, but that is what we do well. That's what you call scrutiny?! Love the hypocritical rhetoric. Just WTF are you going to scrutinise and WTF are you even qualified to scrutinise? All after the fact of course. Yes, that'll fucking sort it. Every cunt giving it large what a cunt he is, me included and some still at it. Mulling over fucking retail deals when no one actually knew the inside track, far less most can't even fuckng count, going by the posts. All speculative shite. Now it's let's try and unravel the one he himself is setting. Is it 20p in the pound, 30p.... ? Absolutely fucking laughable if it weren't so serious. The fucking irony is palpable. I watched him for several months as the season drew to a close. A lonely and forlorn figure. He was hurting and not looking so well. He is no saint, but he is human. However, he and he alone has made the step change needed and the future is indeed much brighter. He is playing a blinder imo and I do have some insight to where we are heading and it's all Dave King. If you are not getting a good feeling now, then ditch the Mogadon ffs, or forever be a miserable bastard. By all means on all matter board and board room, howl at the moon, scrutinise after the fact and give it large on hindsight and most probably on matters either you and most haven't a fucking clue about, but it gets us absolutely nowhere, apart from arguing and hanging our own and give us a bad name. Time to close ranks and get behind King and this board. Let them do their job, because, it's not like you are going to do something about it if he fails. Are you? There is only one guarantee in life, in that it ends at some point. There is even less in football. Dave King isn't coming up with any miracle cure, but at least he is giving it a real good go. Stay on the crack pipe and miss the revolution. My n***er! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Wow. We've gone from 84p to £10 per strip. From 10% to 20%. From £4mil to 6mil profit, net or gross, fuck knows. 10p gross maybe. All in the space of two pages. Is Ashley back?! Let's play I'm a better accountant than you? Someone get on the phone quick to Dave to put him right. Glad no cunt in here is running a business, far less our retail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,556 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 9 hours ago, weeneily said: I know that they are definitely going with a retail partner which will be decided by end of July as they are considering a few and I'm sure JD will be in the mix. But they will be relying on the chosen partner to start the IP carrying product process as no supplier may start sampling until that time due to SD having exclusive license rights until that time which is bit of a pain as it takes time to get approval for products considering all the dye and fire retardation certification etc to allow products onto the market. The retail partner will control all aspects of the supply chain so they will have to move quickly to get kits out in any volume within a month or two of the deal being arranged. That's not to say someone hasn't been tipped the wink in advance of course although the commercial department are adamant that no decision has yet been made. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalRanger86 281 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 13 hours ago, Blue Avenger said: He did lie his way and took power by deception. He lied to the fans. In fact lied to every cunt. Never out of court. Fucked TOP. Hired incompetent managers. Let us be humiliated by all comers. He actually done much more harm than previous boards in one way. Yet what did we do about it? Yes that's right, fuck all! Moaned a plenty, but that is what we do well. That's what you call scrutiny?! Love the hypocritical rhetoric. Just WTF are you going to scrutinise and WTF are you even qualified to scrutinise? All after the fact of course. Yes, that'll fucking sort it. Every cunt giving it large what a cunt he is, me included and some still at it. Mulling over fucking retail deals when no one actually knew the inside track, far less most can't even fuckng count, going by the posts. All speculative shite. Now it's let's try and unravel the one he himself is setting. Is it 20p in the pound, 30p.... ? Absolutely fucking laughable if it weren't so serious. The fucking irony is palpable. I watched him for several months as the season drew to a close. A lonely and forlorn figure. He was hurting and not looking so well. He is no saint, but he is human. However, he and he alone has made the step change needed and the future is indeed much brighter. He is playing a blinder imo and I do have some insight to where we are heading and it's all Dave King. If you are not getting a good feeling now, then ditch the Mogadon ffs, or forever be a miserable bastard. By all means on all matter board and board room, howl at the moon, scrutinise after the fact and give it large on hindsight and most probably on matters either you and most haven't a fucking clue about, but it gets us absolutely nowhere, apart from arguing and hanging our own and give us a bad name. Time to close ranks and get behind King and this board. Let them do their job, because, it's not like you are going to do something about it if he fails. Are you? There is only one guarantee in life, in that it ends at some point. There is even less in football. Dave King isn't coming up with any miracle cure, but at least he is giving it a real good go. Stay on the crack pipe and miss the revolution. Mogadon ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 On 03/06/2018 at 11:05, backup said: You are of course correct SD do indeed have the option to extend the contract having first refusal on any new deal, of course king can negotiate with whoever he likes that doesn't negate SD's right to first refusal. Just means that SD aren't spending anything on negotiations it is all done for them by king and whatever other retailer. SD simply appear at one minute to midnight, to either exercise the right of first refusal or not. Amusingly I have seen king's failure to disclose this as being excused for the same reason as king failing to disclose the SD/Ashley pay off, fans of The Rangers would have been upset. I doubt that greatly, not many fans outside of the internet care too much from whom they get their merchandise, as long as they get it. The final decision will be down to SD whither they can match any deal with any other retailer, if they decide they can and will SD will still be our retail partner, the nub of first refusal. On 06/06/2018 at 13:35, Real Ranger said: Two posts in different threads on two occasions where you called for Rangers supporters to starve the current board by boycotting season tickets. So back to the discussion, someone started this thread with nothing more than a rumour that JD sports are to become our retail partner and soon after you and backup tried to convince us that SD have first refusal, something you clearly hope is true as it would upset the Rangers supporters who want to see the back of Ashley for good. You also stated as fact there was no alternative to SD when Ahmed and Green signed the deal even though you are totally clueless. Do you require any further convincing. rabc10000 and Virtuoso 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 5 hours ago, backup said: Do you require any further convincing. ? thebooler and Courtyard Bear 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Virtuoso said: ? At least he’s consistent, he’s making a cunt of himself in the boardroom section as well. Need to get him renamed The Real Cunt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza27 15,235 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: At least he’s consistent, he’s making a cunt of himself in the boardroom section as well. Need to get him renamed The Real Cunt. Never to be seen posting on football matters,always about the board and the previous board bellends Courtyard Bear and BridgeIsBlue 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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