Malkytfp1 18,594 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 4 hours ago, StaunchLondonGer said: I honestly struggle to understand this tbh. You make Derek Johnstone look staunch ffs What you see as "some kind of nod to heritage??!?!?" that "many people associate with the club!!??!?" is a CRUCIAL PART OF OUR IDENTITY. If you yourself don't get - if you don't actually FEEL it in your heart then you are not Rangers imo. Ulster Bears are our brothers. The Union Flag defines our traditional British Unionist values. These things are not antiquated idiosyncrasies - they are MORE important now than ever given the threat from the SNP. So, you're not "uncomfortable with Britishness". Well good for you mate. Personally, I fucking EMBRACE IT! I revel in it. I ram it up the fucking noses of the SNP and all who support them. Always annoys me how people can judge how much others are fans based on their political views or whatever other shit we are supposed to be represented by. What's wrong with simply supporting a team because you grew up watching the likes of Butcher, Laudrup, Jardine etc? You have no right to tell someone else they aren't a fan because they don't have the same views as yourself. bluenose48 and Inigo 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,177 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 24 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: Lot a shite. My grandad and my auld man were/are lifelong tartan army members. Also lifelong Rangers fans and despite me growing up with all celtic fans they made sure i supported the right club and my country. Will never be ashamed to support my country or my club. You’re basically admitting to having a soft spot for celtic theredhandofNewcastle 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 39 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: Lot a shite. My grandad and my auld man were/are lifelong tartan army members. Also lifelong Rangers fans and despite me growing up with all celtic fans they made sure i supported the right club and my country. Will never be ashamed to support my country or my club. You can support Scotland and England mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 18,594 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 38 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: You’re basically admitting to having a soft spot for celtic Really hope youre at the wind up and youre not that much of a tit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRUTH82 813 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 It will be the making of my week if the Croats dish out a dry humping to southgate & co Colin Traive 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Scotland first, Britain second, oirlund last - fed up as a kid, seeing all those pictures of them stealing all those piglets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 minute ago, STRUTH82 said: It will be the making of my week if the Croats dish out a dry humping to southgate & co Mr Struth wouldn't agree with that China. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Malkytfp1 said: Always annoys me how people can judge how much others are fans based on their political views or whatever other shit we are supposed to be represented by. What's wrong with simply supporting a team because you grew up watching the likes of Butcher, Laudrup, Jardine etc? You have no right to tell someone else they aren't a fan because they don't have the same views as yourself. Well, in that respect you just have Butcher, Laudrup, Jardine etc (few generations there BTW) as idols. Rangers is an institution - entirely different, and different to other football clubs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Fair amount of Scotland fans will be topping themselves at the end of this week I fear magic8ball 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,530 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 ForeverAndEver 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyaleastend 3,260 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Come on England Rule Britannia Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsa 3,906 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 35 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: Fair amount of Scotland fans will be topping themselves at the end of this week I fear Why would you fear that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 22,741 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, STRUTH82 said: It will be the making of my week if the Croats dish out a dry humping to southgate & co This all day long. Fuck England, fuck their media, fuck Geoff Hurst, fuck Jimmy Hill, fuck Mumbles Kane, fuck LGBT Sterling. Until the corrupt SFA are taken out, international football is as relevant as the local bools tournament. If you’ve never worked down south or for an Engerlish company, you can’t imagine the contempt they have for us “Sweaty Socks” Mon the Croats ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,469 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: This all day long. Fuck England, fuck their media, fuck Geoff Hurst, fuck Jimmy Hill, fuck Mumbles Kane, fuck LGBT Sterling. Until the corrupt SFA are taken out, international football is as relevant as the local bools tournament. If you’ve never worked down south or for an Engerlish company, you can’t imagine the contempt they have for us “Sweaty Socks” Mon the Croats ?? Hope you're in tears of sadness come Sunday night The Specky Forum Organiser and Tiger Shaw 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,418 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Might buy an England top if they win it. I have no affiliation to them whatsoever and couldn't name half their squad but it would rile all the kaflik, tartan tranny, snp braveheart bawbags right up. Brilliant investment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 7 hours ago, StaunchLondonGer said: I honestly struggle to understand this tbh. You make Derek Johnstone look staunch ffs What you see as "some kind of nod to heritage??!?!?" that "many people associate with the club!!??!?" is a CRUCIAL PART OF OUR IDENTITY. If you yourself don't get - if you don't actually FEEL it in your heart then you are not Rangers imo. Ulster Bears are our brothers. The Union Flag defines our traditional British Unionist values. These things are not antiquated idiosyncrasies - they are MORE important now than ever given the threat from the SNP. So, you're not "uncomfortable with Britishness". Well good for you mate. Personally, I fucking EMBRACE IT! I revel in it. I ram it up the fucking noses of the SNP and all who support them. Jesus. You're trying very hard to be offended. This is turning into quite a tangent from the original point, but ok. I said 'many people' because I know not all folk that follow Rangers feel any great British element to it. I know I don't. I follow Rangers because it's family. And I know your next assumption, seeing as you seem to quite like leaping over chasms to your conclusions, is that that means I'm not a good, staunch Brit. Again, I don't see why I should have to explain, or why it's come to it given the discussion we were having, but to save the next post of not-staunch-enough angst from yourself (or to at least try in vain to do so), I'll point out what many people know on here; that I'm a no voting, British identifying Rangers fan... I just don't associate the two identities (British and Rangers) to any great depth. Which of course means I have to face down the occasional arrogance of someone that states that a Rangers fan should only ever conform to their narrow, staunch, perfect vision. But anyway, that's why I said 'that many people associate with the club'. Because some don't and folk follow Rangers in many ways for many reasons. I'd have thought that'd be obvious, but clearly from your bold punctuation rage, it's not. As for 'some kind of nod to heritage', I take it that's not a staunch enough way of putting it for you? What about 'embracing of part of the culture associated with Rangers'? Any better for you? Probably the same for 'not uncomfortable with Britishness'. All of which triviality has enabled us to neatly sidestep the actual point I was making. Listen, you clearly feel quite threatened in some way given the conclusions you draw and the worst possible interpretations you make of the phraseology I've been using. I can understand that in some senses, as Rangers fans generally take a pillorying. You'd do well not to invent enemies where they don't exist, though, and not demand that Rangers fans conform to your narrow mold. You'd be more of a threat to the club than anyone if you were successful in that. It's been a while since I've had to deal with these kinds of posts. Tiresome stuff. Fairly sad that we've so quickly, and so defensively, moved to that point from simply suggesting a double standard. bluenose48 and Terry Hurlock Loyal 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 True patriotism is not about loving everything about your country. .True patriotism is when you love the good stuff in your country, but hate the bad stuff. And true patriotism does not mean you need to have ill will towards your neighbours either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,469 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 27 minutes ago, Inigo said: Jesus. You're trying very hard to be offended. This is turning into quite a tangent from the original point, but ok. I said 'many people' because I know not all folk that follow Rangers feel any great British element to it. I know I don't. I follow Rangers because it's family. And I know your next assumption, seeing as you seem to quite like leaping over chasms to your conclusions, is that that means I'm not a good, staunch Brit. Again, I don't see why I should have to explain, or why it's come to it given the discussion we were having, but to save the next post of not-staunch-enough angst from yourself (or to at least try in vain to do so), I'll point out what many people know on here; that I'm a no voting, British identifying Rangers fan... I just don't associate the two identities (British and Rangers) to any great depth. Which of course means I have to face down the occasional arrogance of someone that states that a Rangers fan should only ever conform to their narrow, staunch, perfect vision. But anyway, that's why I said 'that many people associate with the club'. Because some don't and folk follow Rangers in many ways for many reasons. I'd have thought that'd be obvious, but clearly from your bold punctuation rage, it's not. As for 'some kind of nod to heritage', I take it that's not a staunch enough way of putting it for you? What about 'embracing of part of the culture associated with Rangers'? Any better for you? Probably the same for 'not uncomfortable with Britishness'. All of which triviality has enabled us to neatly sidestep the actual point I was making. Listen, you clearly feel quite threatened in some way given the conclusions you draw and the worst possible interpretations you make of the phraseology I've been using. I can understand that in some senses, as Rangers fans generally take a pillorying. You'd do well not to invent enemies where they don't exist, though, and not demand that Rangers fans conform to your narrow mold. You'd be more of a threat to the club than anyone if you were successful in that. It's been a while since I've had to deal with these kinds of posts. Tiresome stuff. Fairly sad that we've so quickly, and so defensively, moved to that point from simply suggesting a double standard. Good grammar and spelling, auld yin Inigo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Good grammar and spelling, auld yin I'm home. Thank the lord, a laptop! ???♂️?♀️ ForeverAndEver 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupret 223 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Loyaleastend said: Come on England Rule Britannia Nah Ive given up supporting them now, their media is Bheast like when they are doing well. Just always remember Baxter ripping the pish out of the World cup winners in 67 at Wembley. bluenose48 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stfu 596 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Is it really too much to expect people to be patriotic to Scotland and then all other countries in our "United Kingdom"? I always thought the clue was in the title. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 3 hours ago, gsa said: Why would you fear that? Their poor wee souls mate ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 38 minutes ago, Rupret said: Nah Ive given up supporting them now, their media is Bheast like when they are doing well. Just always remember Baxter ripping the pish out of the World cup winners in 67 at Wembley. It is unbearable to be fair Listening to Brazil in the morning takes some beating This utter prick is the worst at going Orr No wonder he has that show sown up Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Hurlock Loyal 12,133 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: It is unbearable to be fair Listening to Brazil in the morning takes some beating This utter prick is the worst at going Orr No wonder he has that show sown up Jim Whyte on Talk Sport is another belter, takes a fair pounding from the Dave from Dagenham white van gezzers for being a Sweaty Sock. eejay the dj 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Heart and Hand 8,949 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 On 08/07/2018 at 18:27, The Dude said: My favourite is folk saying they are our ‘neighbours’ or we’re the ‘part of the same country.’ I look forward to seeing them support celtic in their champions league qualifier. Not just are they our neighbour and part of the same country but them doing well directly benefits us. A typical bitter jacobite argument celtic are our rivals England are our allies Whats hard to understand? I think its more pathetic that Scottish people actively support whoever England is playing, like a pathetic attempt to involve themselves in the world cup they couldnt qualify for. Makes Scots look like pathetic weans. Some folk act like youre not Scottish if you dont hate England. Pathetic Yes voting nonsense. Folk who spout this shite are standing shoulder to shoulder with Yes voters imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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