The Dude 20,026 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, GazzasOrangeFlute said: VB have been defending bears for years and standing by our club. There is a true hatred for our club and clubs try and drag us down VB make sure they are outed for storys they sweep under the rug. I for one think the VB are a great group. Where has this story been swept under the rug? It’s been widely reported in the media. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueVanguard 6,621 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, The Dude said: Where has this story been swept under the rug? It’s been widely reported in the media. Not this story but in the past they have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, GazzasOrangeFlute said: Not this story but in the past they have. So they are outing stories damaging us and defending our traditions by writing a blog about Rodgers that has been widely reported everywhere else? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueVanguard 6,621 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: So they are outing stories damaging us and defending our traditions by writing a blog about Rodgers that has been widely reported everywhere else? You have read it wrong or i mis typed it. What i was meaning was any storys the tims cover up or any club or organisation the VB out them for what they really are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
standup 829 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Why has no one quoted my question of how some Rangers fans are very very quick to condemn ridicule decry VB articles. Why are some Rangers very very quick to decry VB. I had cause to E Mail VB, they responded promptly with a clear understandable answer to my point. Why dont Rangers fan VB critics ask VB themselves. Malvern 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hume 13,022 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Bakbear said: This is the crux of the matter. As a support, our tolerance for abuse is high. Most bears I know couldn’t give a fuck if we get called names. There is a reason that one of our anthems is “no one likes us, we don’t care” but what’s happened in the last decade has shown that this approach only hurts us. We need to highlight the hypocrisy and double standards. It’s not whataboutery. It’s one club being held to a different standard from all other clubs. I get that vanguard bears seem to be talking about them a lot but that’s natural given that they spend their existence always denegrating us. All most of us want is parity and even treatment. We will call them fenian bastards and they will call us Dirty Orange H** Bastards and the world will be balanced once again. ? ...... Parity will only become evident when the term "Dirty Orange H** Bastards" is replied to in like terms mate, with them being the original ..... (Dirty) Fenian (H**) Bastards ...... Only then will world order be recognised as once again being "balanced". Only my unbalanced opinion of course ..... dougie76 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craiggybear 6,192 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, thebooler said: Like this recent article, and I’m sure you’ll see plenty on the Torbett trial and it’s media blackout when the times right. Truth And Justice - Police Scotland Must Leave No Stone Unturned Written by: The Colour Blue Thursday, 11th May 2017 In 1996, a supremely talented 15 year-old celtic youth player was brutally murdered in his own home by serial paedophile Brian Beattie, who battered him to death then set fire to his body. Beattie was subsequently sentenced to life imprisonment for his appalling crime. During the investigation, which was clouded by accusations of police corruption, former celtic coach and kit-man Jim McCafferty was one of the suspects. McCafferty had been a regular visitor to the young players’ home and had phoned him on the day of the grotesque murder. That same year, McCafferty suddenly left his celtic employ for what an unnamed club spokesman described as ‘personal reasons’. It was subsequently revealed that those ‘personal reasons’ were allegations of sexual impropriety towards young boys. Once again, as with an earlier case of paedophilia uncovered at celtic FC, serious questions have been asked as to why those running the club declined to call the police when the allegations surfaced. In December of 2016 McCafferty admitted to a newspaper that he had sexually abused ‘around a dozen’ young boys, five of whom he named. The BBC reported that he had allegedly sexually molested young celtic players at his home in West Lothian. He has now been charged in Northern Ireland with sexual activity with a child. McCafferty had a close friendship with celtic Boys Club founder James Torbett, another paedophile convicted and sentenced to 30 months imprisonment for the sexual assault of a young celtic player. Court transcripts revealed evidence that celtic manager Jock Stein and Directors at the club covered up Torbett’s crimes. Another of McCafferty’s friends was Crewe Alexandria’s Barry Bennell who has appeared in court charged with eight offences of sexual assault against a boy aged 14. It is feasible that McCaffety’s phone call to the young celtic starlet on the day Beattie committed his murder was purely coincidence and perfectly innocent, however it is not beyond the realms of possibility that the phone call was made for more sinister purposes. Two paedophiles engaging with the victim on the same day - one by telephone and the other entering his home to commit the most heinous of crimes - arouses suspicion. During a recorded interview with the Daily Record, McCafferty stated ‘I’m probably as bad as the rest of them....but I hope they're going to apologise the same as I'm going to be doing.’ Who ‘the rest of them’ are remains unclear. Suspicions of a paedophile ring operating at celtic remain. Following Beattie’s conviction the then Assistant Chief Constable of Tayside Police James MacKay accused police detectives of planting evidence, namely a hammer, to try and frame the victims’ 12 year-old brother for the crime (Sunday Mail, June 5th 2005). Three officers of sergeant rank were subsequently disciplined with two being demoted (Sunday Herald, 10th March 2001). Detective Superintendent Jim Winning who led the investigation ‘took early retirement’, despite legal moves to block him from doing so by Deputy Chief Constable Mike Currie, aimed at forcing Winning to face a disciplinary hearing (Sunday Herald, 26th August 1998). This whole episode brings scandal and shame upon those paid and duty bound to uphold the law. The family, friends and society in general deserve a full and thorough investigation into events, individuals and organisations surrounding this tragic tale. Police Scotland (not to mention the Scottish Football Association) need to leave no stone unturned in their quest for truth and justice. Great article mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post With Heart and Hand 8,949 Posted July 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2018 our support is a joke, with friends like some in here who needs enemies? From the literary critics moaning about the writing style, to the taig pandering wanks who act like any defence of the Rangers support could be deemed offensive, take a fuck to yourselves Too many of our fans believe the taig and media rhetoric that we are the bad guys, they think us saying BJK or mentioning the fact their Club is a paedophile ring is offensive, theres too many fucking left wing wanks on here who support us but probably share political views with the tarriers. Gives me the boak man. VBs could write an article about literally anything and folk would act all offended and moan about it. Just dont bother clicking the link and stick to reading the Daily Record and the celtic view, since pro PUL and pro Rangers articles are clearly too offensive for you to read. Johnny Dangerously, The New Era, Bad Robot and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, With Heart and Hand said: our support is a joke, with friends like some in here who needs enemies? From the literary critics moaning about the writing style, to the taig pandering wanks who act like any defence of the Rangers support could be deemed offensive, take a fuck to yourselves Too many of our fans believe the taig and media rhetoric that we are the bad guys, they think us saying BJK or mentioning the fact their Club is a paedophile ring is offensive, theres too many fucking left wing wanks on here who support us but probably share political views with the tarriers. Gives me the boak man. VBs could write an article about literally anything and folk would act all offended and moan about it. Just dont bother clicking the link and stick to reading the Daily Record and the celtic view, since pro PUL and pro Rangers articles are clearly too offensive for you to read. Which one of those is an article about Brendan Rodgers? ForeverAndEver and LaudrupsPatrickBoots 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,458 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, With Heart and Hand said: our support is a joke, with friends like some in here who needs enemies? From the literary critics moaning about the writing style, to the taig pandering wanks who act like any defence of the Rangers support could be deemed offensive, take a fuck to yourselves Too many of our fans believe the taig and media rhetoric that we are the bad guys, they think us saying BJK or mentioning the fact their Club is a paedophile ring is offensive, theres too many fucking left wing wanks on here who support us but probably share political views with the tarriers. Gives me the boak man. VBs could write an article about literally anything and folk would act all offended and moan about it. Just dont bother clicking the link and stick to reading the Daily Record and the celtic view, since pro PUL and pro Rangers articles are clearly too offensive for you to read. LaudrupsPatrickBoots 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,754 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 fuck rodgers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,148 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 16 hours ago, KeyserSoze said: I’m confused VB pieces are never actually about Rangers and nearly all about that lot. Strange that is 1 out of 4 articles on the VB home page is about them ? BridgeIsBlue, plumbGER and TEFTONG 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,531 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, GazzasOrangeFlute said: VB have been defending bears for years and standing by our club. There is a true hatred for our club and clubs try and drag us down VB make sure they are outed for storys they sweep under the rug. I for one think the VB are a great group. They are not, they just talk about Rodgers, Shellik and pedo’s Most of the time hardly defending the PUL community of our support Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, With Heart and Hand said: our support is a joke, with friends like some in here who needs enemies? From the literary critics moaning about the writing style, to the taig pandering wanks who act like any defence of the Rangers support could be deemed offensive, take a fuck to yourselves Too many of our fans believe the taig and media rhetoric that we are the bad guys, they think us saying BJK or mentioning the fact their Club is a paedophile ring is offensive, theres too many fucking left wing wanks on here who support us but probably share political views with the tarriers. Gives me the boak man. VBs could write an article about literally anything and folk would act all offended and moan about it. Just dont bother clicking the link and stick to reading the Daily Record and the celtic view, since pro PUL and pro Rangers articles are clearly too offensive for you to read. 4 some of them though.....ooooft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 hours ago, ForeverAndEver said: Scott Brown’s sister gets mentioned, Shay Logan’s race gets brought in to it, both act like knobs and both get abused. Dear oh dear. Put the shovel away. BridgeIsBlue, They Gnu and TEFTONG 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: They are not, they just talk about Rodgers, Shellik and pedo’s Most of the time hardly defending the PUL community of our support So you know exactly what the VB do day to day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post D'Artagnan 13,319 Posted July 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, The Dude said: Where has this story been swept under the rug? It’s been widely reported in the media. Widely reported is not widely condemned. BridgeIsBlue, Malvern, geneva_ger and 5 others 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,092 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Courtyard Bear said: Dear oh dear. Put the away. Fixed that? Courtyard Bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, GazzasOrangeFlute said: You have read it wrong or i mis typed it. What i was meaning was any storys the tims cover up or any club or organisation the VB out them for what they really are. Don't try and explain or justify to him, he is a lost cause chasing his masters wee pund of flesh (yeah I left pund for a reason). when we have to start explaining ourselves to a contributor to the daily rhebel we may as pull on hoops and wave palestinian flags. Courtyard Bear, BlueVanguard and thebooler 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted July 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2018 I’ve actually come to the conclusion that some of our support like the fact that we are portrayed like the dregs of society in the media while the actual dregs are protrayed like some jolly craicsters that can do no wrong. The manager of our biggest rivals who are constantly on the attack against us, claims in public to the MSM that a black player deserved to be racially abused and not a word is said in condemnation. The VB raise this point and they get attacked by so called Rangers fans, on what planet does that appear to be right BlueVanguard, RS4_wul, Malvern and 6 others 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,458 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Dear oh dear. Put the shovel away. My point stands though Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: My point stands though Nope. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears 792 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 16 hours ago, KeyserSoze said: I’m confused VB pieces are never actually about Rangers and nearly all about that lot. Strange that is Go to the bottom of the page, click on the link to the previous article. It's about Rangers. All of it! And the 3 articles before that. celtc do come into the one before that so that's 2/6 i looked at so your almost right... sort of...ish... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, D'Artagnan said: Widely reported is not widely condemned. It’s also been widely condemned. Both Rodgers’ comments and celtic fans treatment of Logan. I’m sure the VB will be along in their new role as equality campaigners to echo the orange order and church of Scotland’s condemnation of the alleged incident around the parade on Saturday Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,458 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Nope. Yes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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