ger4life_1872 29,454 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Deflectors too full because he had a shite world cup , him and gundogan should have been kicked out the squad AlbertzLoyalRSC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 3,867 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 3 hours ago, cushynumber said: shockingly badly timed, unwanted distraction for the German team just before the world cup in Russia and has engendered no real support from his team mates, Gundogan calling Erdogan "my president" has people asking where their loyalties lie. Both then have a shocker of a cup - especially Ozil -who looks completely uninterested. He then takes a lot of criticism - some of it obviously racist. But he then played the race card and only the race card and criticises almost everybody who hasn't came out and publically supported him. Now, he may well feel this is only a racist issue and nothing more, that he is completely blameless for everything and it's all someone else fault, and there is no doubt some of the criticism of him is racist - but I can't help feeling that what we have is also an overindulged muti millionaire who thinks he can do what he wants and is above any form of criticism and looks for any excuse to make up for his own failings. The football world is full of them. He's definetly been targeted because of his race, I don't think anyone can deny that. However his general demeanour and attitude mean he'll always be a target regardless of where he comes from. He doesn't do anywhere near enough to justify his position in the Arsenal or Germany teams. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 This may be simplifying things too much, but things like this also show how the qualification for playing for countries has become a mockery. He's just posted pages and pages basically saying how proud he is to be Turkish yet he chose to play for Germany. AlbertzLoyalRSC and 2nd Flute 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsa 3,906 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 He's a horrible cunt. Stands there with a dictator calling him "my president" and expects everyone in Germany to be right behind him. If he's so Turkish, he should hahe played for Turkey. Or better still, moved back there, when he was of an age to. These guys are always German, British, French, etc when their parents come here soaking up all the benefits that come with being Western European. Turkey is a putrid place. 2nd Flute, wully, AlbertzLoyalRSC and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,458 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Captain Hilts said: This may be simplifying things too much, but things like this also show how the qualification for playing for countries has become a mockery. He's just posted pages and pages basically saying how proud he is to be Turkish yet he chose to play for Germany. Being born in a country should be one of two requirements of qualifying to play for a country, which he meets Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 43 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Being born in a country should be one of two requirements of qualifying to play for a country, which he meets Fair enough, but it's pretty hypocritical of him to make a big deal about not being respected by Germans when he's actively shown his loyalties lie with another country. AlbertzLoyalRSC and ForeverAndEver 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrup1984 25,100 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Will Follow Rangers 12,921 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Germany's racism problem was mostly centered is the old east germany at its worst the arson attack on a refugee hostel in Lubeck in 94, lots of resentment back then that immigrants in western Germany had better standards of living than Germans in the east. this is probably more to do with Ozil being shit Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 18 hours ago, Captain Hilts said: This may be simplifying things too much, but things like this also show how the qualification for playing for countries has become a mockery. He's just posted pages and pages basically saying how proud he is to be Turkish yet he chose to play for Germany. ...he's German. Born & raised. Grew up in Gelsenkirchen. Started his career at Schalke 04. His first language is German. Why wouldn't he play for Germany? 16 hours ago, gsa said: He's a horrible cunt. Stands there with a dictator calling him "my president" and expects everyone in Germany to be right behind him. If he's so Turkish, he should be played for Turkey. Or better still, moved back there when he was of an age to. These guys are always German, British, French, etc when their parents come here soaking up all the benefits that come with being Western European. Turkey is a putrid place. It was Gundogan who posted the caption 'my president' alongside the photo. Lothar Matthaus stood for photos with Vladimir Putin - where's the condemnation? It's all double standards bullshit. Your 2nd last sentence is nonsense. You can feel British, French, German but also have respect for your ethnic roots. That doesn't make you feel more than the other. It's a nod in the direction of your heritage. Ozil has taken plenty of photos with German politicians including Merkel over the past 10 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,141 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 If we're being honest its his eyes that everyone hates The Specky Forum Organiser and Captain Hilts 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted July 24, 2018 Author Share Posted July 24, 2018 5 hours ago, .Williamson. said: If we're being honest its his eyes that everyone hates Nah for me it's this Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raging blue 1972 894 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 On 23/07/2018 at 10:31, plumbGER said: Best player at the club. On 23/07/2018 at 11:24, ForeverAndEver said: Not biting Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertContraband 282 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Germany angry about a guy born in Turkey meeting the turkush president coming from the mob who made visiting national sides salute you know who/what. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,458 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 31 minutes ago, BertContraband said: Germany angry about a guy born in Turkey meeting the turkush president coming from the mob who made visiting national sides salute you know who/what. He was born in Germany Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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