Sweetheart 8,458 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: It's questioning the possibility of it. Which will start by trying to bottom out how much goes for or against us over a season domestically. I think it's very possible. PC was keeping a list of decisions made by refs against Rangers. SG stated it has been going on for seasons, so he must have seen the list. Corrupt refs need to be exposed. I'm very interested in your finding for this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 On 02/09/2018 at 14:29, BridgeIsBlue said: Fourth official screaming "foul, foul" in Gollums ear, he ignores it they go up the pitch and score. Reveal hidden contents Paranoid Protestants Have to intervene here lads, and i'll probably get dog's abuse for it but here goes ....... Firstly, i thought it was a free kick (important to make that clear) - also Dermot Gallacher is a rampant tim so i'll take his views with a pinch Secondly, i think Gerrard has been amazing both on and off the park but i have to question him here I cannot fathom out his accusation that Beaton was shouting foul, foul, foul. It simply doesn't add up. Collum is in his corner of the pitch (refs run a diagonal) where assts are both far away but he ensures he's always in that quarter when play is active. Collum is within 10 yds and has an unobstructed view - he calls it no foul. Replays (for me anyway) strongly suggest otherwise. However, he doesnt give it and starts sprinting upfield after Rogic (which makes it quite clear to anyone watching what he saw was not a foul). Beaton is 50 yds anyway and (possibly) does have players in the way - either way him intervening to call Collum back with shouts of foul, foul, foul are very very highly unlikely. In short, Collum was in a very good position to make his call. His position was much much better than Beaton's. Beaton trying to overule him from his standpoint against the referee who was right there on the spot is something that doesn't happen Another slant on this was with 10-15 mins to go - Morelos and Boyata are tussling for the ball over in the far corner even further away from Beaton. Collum again, is right on the spot. He watches Boyata go down looking for a foul but waves Morelos on to have a clear shot on goal (not sometbing you would expect from a ref with an agenda!) Could you imagine the uproar if it were discovered that Collum blew up only because Beaton shouted foul, foul, foul from his position at the tunnel ???? That said, the officials should speak up in response to what Gerrard has claimed to provide clarity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said: Have to intervene here lads, and i'll probably get dog's abuse for it but here goes ....... Firstly, i thought it was a free kick (important to make that clear) - also Dermot Gallacher is a rampant tim so i'll take his views with a pinch Secondly, i think Gerrard has been amazing both on and off the park but i have to question him here I cannot fathom out his accusation that Beaton was shouting foul, foul, foul. It simply doesn't add up. Collum is in his corner of the pitch (refs run a diagonal) where assts are both far away but he ensures he's always in that quarter when play is active. Collum is within 10 yds and has an unobstructed view - he calls it no foul. Replays (for me anyway) strongly suggest otherwise. However, he doesnt give it and starts sprinting upfield after Rogic (which makes it quite clear to anyone watching what he saw was not a foul). Beaton is 50 yds anyway and (possibly) does have players in the way - either way him intervening to call Collum back with shouts of foul, foul, foul are very very highly unlikely. In short, Collum was in a very good position to make his call. His position was much much better than Beaton's. Beaton trying to overule him from his standpoint against the referee who was right there on the spot is something that doesn't happen Another slant on this was with 10-15 mins to go - Morelos and Boyata are tussling for the ball over in the far corner even further away from Beaton. Collum again, is right on the spot. He watches Boyata go down looking for a foul but waves Morelos on to have a clear shot on goal (not sometbing you would expect from a ref with an agenda!) Could you imagine the uproar if it were discovered that Collum blew up only because Beaton shouted foul, foul, foul from his position at the tunnel ???? That said, the officials should speak up in response to what Gerrard has claimed to provide clarity. You will get a full list of likes from the guys that don't like behaving like the taigs and the ones who think its complete paranoia . Like I said already yesterdays game was not the best example . We were just too far out of the game to really make Gollum relevant IMO Although he did make sure he gave all the free kicks to their players around our box for little fouls Yet chose to ignore the one that ultimately cost us a goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Just now, eejay the dj said: You will get a full list of likes from the guys that don't like behaving like the taigs and the ones who think its complete paranoia . Like I said already yesterdays game was not the best example . We were just too far out of the game to really make Gollum relevant IMO Although he did make sure he gave all the free kicks to their players around our box for little fouls Yet chose to ignore the one that ultimately cost us a goal It wasa foul, i have no doubt about it. Rogic firstly catches jack on the sole of his left boot then in the same action catches Jack's right leg causing him to fail to land on his feet and thus allowing Rogic to race away with the ball. It was highly frustratingbjt as Gerrard has said the main focus is fo improve so that next time we play them we have the belief and confidence we can do them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,712 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 if Gerrard said the 4th official was shouting that then I'm in no doubt that he was. 2 reasons, 1 Gerrard is a man of integrity and wouldn't make that up, and 2, there would have been retrospective action towards Gerrard if his claim had no foundation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 29 minutes ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said: Have to intervene here lads, and i'll probably get dog's abuse for it but here goes ....... Firstly, i thought it was a free kick (important to make that clear) - also Dermot Gallacher is a rampant tim so i'll take his views with a pinch Secondly, i think Gerrard has been amazing both on and off the park but i have to question him here I cannot fathom out his accusation that Beaton was shouting foul, foul, foul. It simply doesn't add up. Collum is in his corner of the pitch (refs run a diagonal) where assts are both far away but he ensures he's always in that quarter when play is active. Collum is within 10 yds and has an unobstructed view - he calls it no foul. Replays (for me anyway) strongly suggest otherwise. However, he doesnt give it and starts sprinting upfield after Rogic (which makes it quite clear to anyone watching what he saw was not a foul). Beaton is 50 yds anyway and (possibly) does have players in the way - either way him intervening to call Collum back with shouts of foul, foul, foul are very very highly unlikely. In short, Collum was in a very good position to make his call. His position was much much better than Beaton's. Beaton trying to overule him from his standpoint against the referee who was right there on the spot is something that doesn't happen Another slant on this was with 10-15 mins to go - Morelos and Boyata are tussling for the ball over in the far corner even further away from Beaton. Collum again, is right on the spot. He watches Boyata go down looking for a foul but waves Morelos on to have a clear shot on goal (not sometbing you would expect from a ref with an agenda!) Could you imagine the uproar if it were discovered that Collum blew up only because Beaton shouted foul, foul, foul from his position at the tunnel ???? That said, the officials should speak up in response to what Gerrard has claimed to provide clarity. The official should speak up but will he? Imho the ref blatantly ignored Beaton to give celtic the advantage. Why would SG lie about hearing this and the staff in the dug out must have heard it too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: The official should speak up but will he? Imho the ref blatantly ignored Beaton to give celtic the advantage. Why would SG lie about hearing this and the staff in the dug out must have heard it too? Ok, let's say Beaton did say it. How would you feel about one official 50-60 yds away over ruling another official who is 10yds away Eg like the Morelos/Boyata incident? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said: Ok, let's say Beaton did say it. How would you feel about one official 50-60 yds away over ruling another official who is 10yds away Eg like the Morelos/Boyata incident? It's the officials job to report what he sees to the ref. Our players reacted to the call of foul and SG heard it. The ref blatantly ignored Beaton and gave celtic the advantage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 24 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: It's the officials job to report what he sees to the ref. Our players reacted to the call of foul and SG heard it. The ref blatantly ignored Beaton and gave celtic the advantage It's the official job to step in when he thinks the ref needs assistance or didnt see something. Collum was there 10yds away - 50odd yds nearer than Beaton. He's not going to intervene. Answef my question above about Morelos/Boyata? How would you feel then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 11 hours ago, evenstevens said: Just watched Sky Sports News and Dermot Gallagher felt that the first foul was Jack jumping into Rogic and not getting the ball, before a slight touch which unbalanced Jack. Said outright that Gerrard was wrong. Danny Mills agreed. What there failing to take into consideration is the amount of soft free kicks the scum got at the Rangers box. The referee set the mark so that was undoubtedly a free kick. The referees are making decisions based on how the fenian media will perceive them, it’s no surprise that was not seen as a foul on jack and the blatant dive near the end barely got a mention. This has been going on for seasons, it’s disgusting that a media campaign resulted in a referee having to apologise to that bastardised football team. We need Gerrard calling these cowardly cunts out, hopefully when they see that the pathetic little fenian media is fuckall compared to the worldwide media that Gerrard can bring then we might start seeing a level playing field. Sundays game wasn’t the best Rangers have played this season and if football was based on the best team always winning then yes the result was fair,but it isn’t. Gerrard set up our tactics for exactly how the game was panning out but yet it was another game where a referee decision was paramount to how it actually panned out. 3 points now lost this season because of referees! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,613 Posted September 15, 2018 Author Share Posted September 15, 2018 Missing the game today but any footage of any key incidents for and against would be appreciated. Sounds like with Clancy being his typical self there's been a few. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
voltago 66 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Just watched a stream in work with two English boys doing their own commentary. They were absolutely slaughtering Clancy all match and couldn’t believe some of the decisions. One of them said it’s one of the worst ref performances he has seen which is mental considering it’s not even the worst of this season. Reffing up here is brutal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,595 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Diabolical decision making again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer time 653 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Personally thought it was harsh for Miller to get a red definitely not the worst challenge of the day, typically awful display from the ref Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big blue Fin 3,724 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, voltago said: Just watched a stream in work with two English boys doing their own commentary. They were absolutely slaughtering Clancy all match and couldn’t believe some of the decisions. One of them said it’s one of the worst ref performances he has seen which is mental considering it’s not even the worst of this season. Reffing up here is brutal. Watched that stream myself and Clancy was atrocious again two clear penalties denied and I'm not sure about the Morelos offside goal, need to see that again. 3 minutes ago, hammer time said: Personally thought it was harsh for Miller to get a red definitely not the worst challenge of the day, typically awful display from the ref Maybe a touch harsh but highly amusing all the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonus 275 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, voltago said: Just watched a stream in work with two English boys doing their own commentary. They were absolutely slaughtering Clancy all match and couldn’t believe some of the decisions. One of them said it’s one of the worst ref performances he has seen which is mental considering it’s not even the worst of this season. Reffing up here is brutal. There just doing that to get donations two of them are rockets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,338 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 He ever gets an OF we’re fucked. The one where he gave the free kick against Middleton was up there with the Morelos close line against Hibs last year. Laughable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAvenger 10,204 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 The ref was fuckin woeful today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 41 minutes ago, hammer time said: Personally thought it was harsh for Miller to get a red definitely not the worst challenge of the day, typically awful display from the ref I paid the ref to send him off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cascadeshrimp 1,451 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 I honestly think that the standard of referee was better in the lower leagues. When you start thinking like that you realize that something is very very wrong with the officials in this country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 The officials are horrendous every time, can only do what we did today and play well enough for it to not have much impact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMckee 3,420 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Morelos goal was definitely onside the linesman didn't see and is just guessing fucking ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Clancy shouldnt be anywhere near the top division Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
five stars 1,635 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, cascadeshrimp said: I honestly think that the standard of referee was better in the lower leagues. When you start thinking like that you realize that something is very very wrong with the officials in this country. It was shocking in the lower leagues too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cascadeshrimp 1,451 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 1 minute ago, five stars said: It was shocking in the lower leagues too. Agreed mate it was but nothing comes close to that bastard Clancy.Then we've got the former st mirren player,the tim re teacher and hugh Dallas's sprog who seems to really have a thing for fucking us over. We never got any cards rescinded in all our time in the lower leages,food for thought Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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