Inigo 32,526 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, siddiqi_drinker said: TBH only time I've seen hm was for Scotland and wasn't impressed - he not out on loan most of the past few seasons?? Last season seems to have been a breakthrough one. Really good goal/assist return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,771 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, siddiqi_drinker said: SWANSEA have slapped a £20million price tag on Scotland striker Oliver McBurnie. 20M for that numpty --- yet people happy to sell Alfredo for 10M Really hope he stays one more season but should be sell has to be a minimum of 20M Nobody would be happy to sell Morelos for 10 million at this point though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,771 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Is anybody else tired of every player who gets sold for a big fee being brought up and used as a way to say well if they are going for this amount then Morelos should be worth that amount. Football really doesn’t work like that and a lot of the people who use that argument are smart enough to know that so I’m not sure why they keep saying it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,450 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, DBBTB said: Is anybody else tired of every player who gets sold for a big fee being brought up and used as a way to say well if they are going for this amount then Morelos should be worth that amount. Football really doesn’t work like that and a lot of the people who use that argument are smart enough to know that so I’m not sure why they keep saying it. Especially when it’s players in the championship and the prem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblueal 2,117 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, DBBTB said: Is anybody else tired of every player who gets sold for a big fee being brought up and used as a way to say well if they are going for this amount then Morelos should be worth that amount. Football really doesn’t work like that and a lot of the people who use that argument are smart enough to know that so I’m not sure why they keep saying it. I think it's the frustration of the situation. McGinn has gone from 2.5m to 40m in one season. Maddison similar. Tierney could have 10 solid games at Arsenal and they'd double his price. Van dyke was doing what he always has at Southampton and moved for £75m. The market has gone mental but we have a ceiling price in this league. We saw what happened with Waghorn who was a decent player but never worth £5-7m. We got 500k for him. Look at that bang average Newcastle midfielder with 9 league matches behind him and a bad knee. He was just one of the crowd on loan at Killie. Nothing special. £50 fucking million for Longstaff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigChief 183 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, DBBTB said: Is anybody else tired of every player who gets sold for a big fee being brought up and used as a way to say well if they are going for this amount then Morelos should be worth that amount. Football really doesn’t work like that and a lot of the people who use that argument are smart enough to know that so I’m not sure why they keep saying it. It's like saying Kamara is worth £50k. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoplandRoad83 3,251 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, trueblueal said: I think it's the frustration of the situation. McGinn has gone from 2.5m to 40m in one season. Maddison similar. Tierney could have 10 solid games at Arsenal and they'd double his price. Van dyke was doing what he always has at Southampton and moved for £75m. The market has gone mental but we have a ceiling price in this league. We saw what happened with Waghorn who was a decent player but never worth £5-7m. We got 500k for him. Look at that bang average Newcastle midfielder with 9 league matches behind him and a bad knee. He was just one of the crowd on loan at Killie. Nothing special. £50 fucking million for Longstaff. 50 million quoted for Longstaff and Juventus are signing de Ligt for 67.5M. Market is fucking mental Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 46 minutes ago, DBBTB said: Nobody would be happy to sell Morelos for 10 million at this point though. Number of people have suggested if that's what we get - take it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 50 minutes ago, Inigo said: Last season seems to have been a breakthrough one. Really good goal/assist return. Since 2015 seems to average a goal every three games - every two last season at Barnsley - according to WIki Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Why do taigs and the taig media overvalue their players (KT 50m) and he possibly has a career impacting medical condition. Media loves to undervalue our players and some of our fans buy into their narrative, weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,808 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 hour ago, DBBTB said: Is anybody else tired of every player who gets sold for a big fee being brought up and used as a way to say well if they are going for this amount then Morelos should be worth that amount. Football really doesn’t work like that and a lot of the people who use that argument are smart enough to know that so I’m not sure why they keep saying it. absolutely it works that way and that will be the basis to agents arguments. They will use comparisons to maximize their clients no matter what the league. i.e - if McBurnie is worth 20M then Morelos is at least that. If Tierney is worth x amount then Tav is just below him because of age difference. That is how valuations work. They compare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,771 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, bluenoz said: absolutely it works that way and that will be the basis to agents arguments. They will use comparisons to maximize their clients no matter what the league. i.e - if McBurnie is worth 20M then Morelos is at least that. If Tierney is worth x amount then Tav is just below him because of age difference. That is how valuations work. They compare. Football works on a pyramid scale. Whether we like it or not Morelos is playing in a league that is considered as being less competitive and lower in quality than the one that McBurnie is playing in and that’s going to have an affect on his market value and what people will be willing to pay for him. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous and it’s just people ignoring the basic principal of how transfers work and have worked for the majority of time that the majority of them have been alive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,808 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, DBBTB said: Football works on a pyramid scale. Whether we like it or not Morelos is playing in a league that is considered as being less competitive and lower in quality than the one that McBurnie is playing in and that’s going to have an affect on his market value and what people will be willing to pay for him. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous and it’s just people ignoring the basic principal of how transfers work and have worked for the majority of time that the majority of them have been alive. You lose your argument when Tierney goes for 25m+ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,771 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, bluenoz said: You lose your argument when Tierney goes for 25m+ My point is proven correct when we sell Morelos for 15-18 million and not the 20-30 like some people think it will or should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,808 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, DBBTB said: My point is proven correct when we sell Morelos for 15-18 million and not the 20-30 like some people think it will or should be. anyone who suggests he is worth 30m is wrong. The market suggests 15-18m in my opinion ( just a little under Dembele ) But if Tierney goes for 30m then we have every right to ask for 20m for Tav. The market is based on comparisons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,771 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, bluenoz said: anyone who suggests he is worth 30m is wrong. The market suggests 15-18m in my opinion ( just a little under Dembele ) But if Tierney goes for 30m then we have every right to ask for 20m for Tav. The market is based on comparisons. I think we need to win things before we get similar money for our players to what celtic do. Players in successful teams always go for more and even though we are improving we aren’t a successful team yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,808 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, DBBTB said: I think we need to win things before we get similar money for our players to what celtic do. Players in successful teams always go for more and even though we are improving we aren’t a successful team yet. They were only successful due to our demise but I agree, this is the year we need to win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 54 minutes ago, bluenoz said: anyone who suggests he is worth 30m is wrong. The market suggests 15-18m in my opinion ( just a little under Dembele ) But if Tierney goes for 30m then we have every right to ask for 20m for Tav. The market is based on comparisons. He is worth more than Dembele IMO. A much better option up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackAlex93 11,244 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 11 hours ago, Copeland1983 said: 50 million quoted for Longstaff and Juventus are signing de Ligt for 67.5M. Market is fucking mental de Light away for 67.5 million but Leicester apparently wanting 80 million for Harry Maguire. Fucking lunacy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klos' Glove 260 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I think he's here for 55 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
voltago 66 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Morelos and Tav are 20m+ players but we should all be saying 30m+ every time the topic comes up on or off here tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,631 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 3 hours ago, JackAlex93 said: de Light away for 67.5 million but Leicester apparently wanting 80 million for Harry Maguire. Fucking lunacy It's the 25 man squad shit that's making all the English players go for premium prices. How many of the 25must be homegrown? Take that rule away and things would calm down imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearInTheToon 1,577 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 12 hours ago, gogzy said: He is worth more than Dembele IMO. A much better option up front. I agree he's a better player but Dembele scored in Old Firm games, Champion's League and Europa League games. And even though Alfie's better, it's understandable that scoring in big games makes a difference for both the selling and buying club. If Alfie stays, he seriously needs to curb his indiscipline and start scoring in key games. If he does that, he'll be away for £20m+ in January or next summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 18,746 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 16 hours ago, DBBTB said: Is anybody else tired of every player who gets sold for a big fee being brought up and used as a way to say well if they are going for this amount then Morelos should be worth that amount. Football really doesn’t work like that and a lot of the people who use that argument are smart enough to know that so I’m not sure why they keep saying it. If I can buy a shirt at Matalan for £18 then how much would M&S shirts be worth? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 3 hours ago, BearInTheToon said: I agree he's a better player but Dembele scored in Old Firm games, Champion's League and Europa League games. And even though Alfie's better, it's understandable that scoring in big games makes a difference for both the selling and buying club. If Alfie stays, he seriously needs to curb his indiscipline and start scoring in key games. If he does that, he'll be away for £20m+ in January or next summer. We weren’t exactly hard to score against when he played against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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