Popular Post Broxi 11,437 Posted September 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2018 I think it's something we need to do more of and I genuinely think it was a big reason why we played well last night. The amount of extra possession we had because we had the ball from the back and passed it around to the midfield was actually a significant amount of our possession, whereas if we had lumped it up the park like usual then we'd have lost 50% of that possession and may have found it difficult to have the ball. Glad and impressed we had the confidence to go to Spain and do that, and do it well. I genuinely thought we'd go there and Villarreal would run circles around us and we'd be chasing balls for 90 mins but we went there and played good football at times and credit to the team for that. CoopsLaud, BlueKnight87, Bobby Hume and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post .Williamson. 81,476 Posted September 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2018 I don't understand why we can't beat celtic Courtyard Bear, KingKaiJohansen, offminorthreat and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoopsLaud 4,184 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 It is the accepted way of playing these days so good to see management implementing this philosophy. Hopefully in place throughout the youth teams also so the young lads come straight through to a system they know off by heart. Not before time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSM 20,892 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 I remember how annoyed we all got that Warburton always insisted on playing out from the back. "Just fucking punt it up the park Wes!!!!" But it's ok now that Stevie suggests it. Valance1690, bluchoo, wully and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGM_72 3,534 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 I think we really grew into playing this way as the game went on. Understandable that at first, we'd be a bit uncertain because it's the first group stage game for most of these players in their careers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzy 25,953 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, FSM said: I remember how annoyed we all got that Warburton always insisted on playing out from the back. "Just fucking punt it up the park Wes!!!!" But it's ok now that Stevies suggests it. BillySastard 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FSM 20,892 Posted September 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Bronzy said: It's true though. There's a time and place for playing out from the back, and sometimes you just need to give it a big hoof. ForeverAndEver, OhW, Rum Ham and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzy 25,953 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, FSM said: It's true though. There's a time and place for playing out from the back, and sometimes you just need to give it a big hoof. I'll give you a big hoof x Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hume 12,683 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 21 minutes ago, FSM said: I remember how annoyed we all got that Warburton always insisted on playing out from the back. "Just fucking punt it up the park Wes!!!!" But it's ok now that Stevie suggests it. Think we have the ability on the park now to be confident on the ball mate .... the big punt, hit and miss and hope style, that nine times out of ten only gives the opposition possession again is something we should avoid as much as possible. All the more successful teams play in this manner ..... and it was rightly observed during MW's time that we lacked the players with the ability to play this style. McGregor's only real weakness is his long ball out .... as it invariably misses the target or goes out of play .... so playing out from the back I believe would benefit us dramatically and should be part of our game for this reason. ianb1547, Blumhoilann and BlueKnight87 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,437 Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, FSM said: I remember how annoyed we all got that Warburton always insisted on playing out from the back. "Just fucking punt it up the park Wes!!!!" But it's ok now that Stevie suggests it. I don't think people were annoyed at us doing it, we were probably annoyed that we tried to do it in risky situations. Yesterday was a great blend of playing out when it was on and kicking it up when it wasn't. I think the possession we gained from doing it made a big difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,272 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 hours ago, FSM said: I remember how annoyed we all got that Warburton always insisted on playing out from the back. "Just fucking punt it up the park Wes!!!!" But it's ok now that Stevie suggests it. Punt versus play out to the likes of Kiernan was the issue then. Now it's playing out to better players in a safer system. We're keeping possession and playing forward from it opposed to puting ourselves under pressure or losing goals. Don't think it's to do with a Gerrard/ Warburton thing at all tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the old guard 2,291 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Quite happy to mix it up and do both tbh Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AljayBoy 2,292 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 As others have mentioned there's a time and place for both. Sometimes a hoof up to lafferty will be the best option and other times out wide to Tav or Barasic would be better. If we're going to be successful then we need to be capable of both and also aware of when to choose one option over the other. 35 Yard Dangerman 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 3 hours ago, .Williamson. said: I don't understand why we can't beat celtic Play like the second half last night and we hammer those cunts .Williamson. and Blumhoilann 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smile 26,592 Posted September 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2018 3 hours ago, .Williamson. said: I don't understand why we can't beat celtic We are still playing like we are scared of them we should have gone for their throats as Hearts did. Courtyard Bear, .Williamson., harlands plater and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDak 771 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 21 minutes ago, the old guard said: Quite happy to mix it up and do both tbh This is the best option. If you rely too much on playing it out from the back, such that all your tactics/play is based on starting from the back, then all a team needs to do is throw men forward to mark all of your defenders and your tactics are all to pot. If you mix it up then you at least leave yourself with options and the ability to know what to do if you can’t play out from the back. I remember our first year back in the Premier league teams just shut down our defence at bye-kicks and we didn’t know what to do as all of our play was based upon playing out from the back. So Fod has no choice but to hoof it and we were clueless. Bears 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Time and a place for everything, if we have to go long then we have press that ball it’s no use hoping the forward wins it and it falls kindly for us. We have to have runners off the forward looking for the knock down and the midfield looking to win the second ball if the forward doesn’t win it. Blumhoilann 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
five stars 1,607 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 We need to be able to do both, if you only do one or the other then you become predictable. We also need players with the ability and intelligence to know when it's better to go long and when it's better to play out from the back. So many times against Villarreal players made poor choices or just passed inaccurately, often when under little pressure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 3 hours ago, FSM said: I remember how annoyed we all got that Warburton always insisted on playing out from the back. "Just fucking punt it up the park Wes!!!!" But it's ok now that Stevie suggests it. That's coz we never had players capable of moving it to the attackers. If we play with 1 upfront then we need as much possession as possible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Time and a place for everything, if we have to go long then we have press that ball it’s no use hoping the forward wins it and it falls kindly for us. We have to have runners off the forward looking for the knock down and the midfield looking to win the second ball if the forward doesn’t win it. Or at least just the right winger needs to be able to knock it on with McGregor. Courtyard Bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 3 hours ago, .Williamson. said: I don't understand why we can't beat celtic It will come the last game before the split at Ibrox Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 81,476 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Copland bear said: It will come the last game before the split at Ibrox December? Copland bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluchoo 846 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Broxi said: I think it's something we need to do more of and I genuinely think it was a big reason why we played well last night. The amount of extra possession we had because we had the ball from the back and passed it around to the midfield was actually a significant amount of our possession, whereas if we had lumped it up the park like usual then we'd have lost 50% of that possession and may have found it difficult to have the ball. Both goals last night came from kick outs wide by Mcgregor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sket 13,610 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 4 hours ago, .Williamson. said: I don't understand why we can't beat celtic It's definitely a mental thing and it's becoming worse with every defeat. We're beat before we even step foot on the pitch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 81,476 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Sket said: It's definitely a mental thing and it's becoming worse with every defeat. We're beat before we even step foot on the pitch. It obviously is exactly that We're treating them like the world beaters they think they are Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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