RFC55 108,860 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 1 minute ago, MrMckee said: My grandad just rang to complain about the game today. Apparently candieas and Morelos are awful, the CB (assume he means katic) canny pass a baw. I thought there were some valid points until he said that tavernier can't take penalties because he doesn't put them in the corner @Mr Soprano didn't know you two have the same granda Mr Soprano 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMckee 3,420 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: @Mr Soprano didn't know you two have the same granda I bet there's a few out there with the same grandad mate Got to add pronouncing every player's name wrong as well to the list. Tell you what he was right about one thing and that was calling Pena a big barell of lard RFC55 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Laudrup1984 25,100 Posted October 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2018 My view on Candeias is that he's very much in the Papac mould (albeit he plays further forward) insofar as he's a solid, reliable 7 out of 10 most weeks. He'll give you everything he's got, he'll not stop running, and he'll cover defensively. He's very much a team player, the type of player who IMO won't necessarily shine week in week out but he's someone you'd want in your team. A players player if you like. That said he's not without quality on the ball and has had a number of assists, and goals both home and away. He was player of the year last year (not a ringing endorsement I concede) and in the few away games he's started this season he got a pretty credible assist in Villareal and played a key role in our win today. His discipline has been crucial in not losing away in Europe in the games he's played too, a role which might not look great on a youtube compilation but it's the dirty side that has given us a platform to build from. His defensive work is so important to how we set up, particularly away from home. Like most players he probably does produce more at Ibrox. I don't think that's surprising. He sees more of the ball and with the fans behind him, naturally he and many others perform better. You could argue the same of Kent. I'm a big Kent fan but there's an argument that Kent hasn't been as incredible away from home either. Like Candeias though, take away Kent's end product, goals and assist, a huge part of their game is their industry, work ethic, energy and team work, which is essential to how we play. I think Middleton could be anything he wants to be. He seems smart and seems like he wants to and is keen to learn but playing on the wing is all fine and well running at a full back. However, there's so much more to playing out wide than that, especially away from home. Middleton can and will learn a lot from watching Kent and Candeias perform at both ends of the park but moreso how they operate defensively, how they are disciplined, compact and where they position themselves with and without the ball. James Rolle, cascadeshrimp, BlueKnight87 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 17,273 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, Ivybank said: I'm still waiting on the 3 games just ignore that? Maribor, Kilmarnock, Ufa,. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rum Ham 2,059 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 56 minutes ago, Ivybank said: Still waiting on the 3 games just ignore that? What's that got to do with you being proven wrong about him not being trusted? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 17,273 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 And I'm still waiting on the math for how you worked out Kent & Middleton are 20 times the player Candeias is.....just ignore that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivybank 4,580 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 1 hour ago, LegendofCoop said: Maribor, Kilmarnock, Ufa,. Bollocks I was at all 3 games that's incorrect Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivybank 4,580 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Rum Ham said: What's that got to do with you being proven wrong about him not being trusted? What's the reason then Gerrard never played him in the 3 biggest away league games of the season is he's so great Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivybank 4,580 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 45 minutes ago, LegendofCoop said: And I'm still waiting on the math for how you worked out Kent & Middleton are 20 times the player Candeias is.....just ignore that Yeah quote a throwaway line that's trivial and forget the fact he's shite away from home are you sleeping with him? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 34 minutes ago, Ivybank said: What's the reason then Gerrard never played him in the 3 biggest away league games of the season is he's so great Dunno. What's the reason he did play him in 4 of the biggest away European ones? You know, Ufa, Maribor, Villareal and Skupi? The ones you said he didn't play in when you were accusing me of not reading people's posts? Doesn't trust him enough to play him away against Aberdeen, celtic and Motherwell, yet plays him away against Ufa, Maribor, Villareal and Skupi. Mind blown. VentyFour 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivybank 4,580 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 15 minutes ago, Inigo said: Dunno. What's the reason he did play him in 4 of the biggest away European ones? You know, Ufa, Maribor, Villareal and Skupi? The ones you said he didn't play in when you were accusing me of not reading people's posts? Doesn't trust him enough to play him away against Aberdeen, celtic and Motherwell, yet plays him away against Ufa, Maribor, Villareal and Skupi. Mind blown. So you don't know why he didn't play your idol? In 3 of 3 biggest games of the season yet played him against such illustrious names as ufa and Maribor and skupi , big names eh ffs thats his level he's used to playing in 3 rd rate leagues around Europe but try playing in Scotland where there's no time and the defender is up his arse he's fkn lost (away from home) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 17,273 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Ivybank said: Bollocks I was at all 3 games that's incorrect Aye. Bollocks. You were obviously pished then! Are you telling me that when we beat Ufa, we were effectively playing with 8 men at the end then? 1 hour ago, Ivybank said: Yeah quote a throwaway line that's trivial and forget the fact he's shite away from home are you sleeping with him? GOT IT!!! Yes, he I am, and you're quite obviously jealous!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 39 minutes ago, Ivybank said: So you don't know why he didn't play your idol? In 3 of 3 biggest games of the season yet played him against such illustrious names as ufa and Maribor and skupi , big names eh ffs thats his level he's used to playing in 3 rd rate leagues around Europe but try playing in Scotland where there's no time and the defender is up his arse he's fkn lost (away from home) Idol... Lol. Of course I don't know. Same as I don't know why Kent didn't start in alot of important away games, or Katic in various games. Or whoever else. I take it every time he doesn't play someone it's lack of trust!? Did he not trust Kent when he didn't start 3 or 4 big away games? Lol. I mean, clearly it's not a straightforward matter of trust, otherwise he wouldn't have played him against the 'illustrious' names of Maribor, Ufa and Skupi (as if they're any less illustrious than Motherwell or Aberdeen... lol), not to mention Villareal that are better on paper than celtic. So it's the amazing marking prowess of the Scottish defender now is it? He plays against Ufa, Maribor and Villareal, but not the sheep or Motherwell because they defend better, is what you're essentually saying there. Interesting view. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 One of the more ridiculous arguments I've heard tbh. Your argument essentially implies that Aberdeen, Motherwell and celtic are big away games but Ufa, Maribor and Villareal are not. That defenders from the former three are tougher to play against than defenders from the latter three. Incidentally, you should check out Maribor's record in the last 5 or 6 years if you think they're less illustrious than the sheep or Motherwell. Or sellic, for that matter. Rum Ham and VentyFour 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,165 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 He didn't play against Motherwell because we didn't play any wingers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRab 2,736 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Candeias plays almost all of his good matches on large pitches. He doesn't have a good enough touch for the small artificial pitches in the SPL and isn't skillful enough to beat players on narrow parks. He's effective at Ibrox where he has the work rate to track back and him and Tav can create space for each other. We're still badly lacking talent/creativity for the small away games when teams park the bus especially if you don't have any threat coming from LB when Halliday or Flanagan play. BlueAvenger and markem 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,549 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 14 hours ago, Ivybank said: Are you fucking thick , he's SHITE AWAY FROM IBROX , tell me 3 away games where he's played well? Kent and Middleton are 20 times the player he is moron Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Vandenbroucke 26,148 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 14 hours ago, Ivybank said: Are you fucking thick , he's SHITE AWAY FROM IBROX , tell me 3 away games where he's played well? Kent and Middleton are 20 times the player he is BridgeIsBlue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackrfc95 4,255 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 11 hours ago, Ivybank said: What's the reason then Gerrard never played him in the 3 biggest away league games of the season is he's so great Aberdeen - He played virtually every game before that and he played in the Maribor game which was the game after so perhaps resting him, I don't know. Tims - to shoe horn Lafferty into the team. Motherwell - We didn't play with any wingers. It's obvious that in the early part of the season Gerrard played what he perceived to be his strongest team in Europe and Candeias started every game. Rum Ham 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivybank 4,580 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 hour ago, OrangeRab said: Candeias plays almost all of his good matches on large pitches. He doesn't have a good enough touch for the small artificial pitches in the SPL and isn't skillful enough to beat players on narrow parks. He's effective at Ibrox where he has the work rate to track back and him and Tav can create space for each other. We're still badly lacking talent/creativity for the small away games when teams park the bus especially if you don't have any threat coming from LB when Halliday or Flanagan play. Spot on, especially the first sentence which is my whole point ,a guy that can't play on a tight pitch , so what's the point of playing him away from home? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Vandenbroucke 26,148 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Ivywank lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 11 hours ago, Ivybank said: So you don't know why he didn't play your idol? In 3 of 3 biggest games of the season yet played him against such illustrious names as ufa and Maribor and skupi , big names eh ffs thats his level he's used to playing in 3 rd rate leagues around Europe but try playing in Scotland where there's no time and the defender is up his arse he's fkn lost (away from home) Didn't think I'd ever see anyone posting more pish than me! ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rum Ham 2,059 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 13 hours ago, Ivybank said: What's the reason then Gerrard never played him in the 3 biggest away league games of the season is he's so great Was playing a different formation against the taigs and Motherwell, so could be that. He clearly rates and trusts him, as he has played in the biggest games in Europe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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