Hadron Collider 30,780 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Redwhiteandblue said: Has played 7 games so far, conceded 1 goal after 6 shutout's in a row. I know he's playing for a massive club in the "wrong" league but I have a feeling we are going to regret letting him go big time. On a side note, £8 million for Worrall? Then how much is Bates really worth? With it being a free transfer, we won't even have a buy back, or sell on percentage. https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=72597 https://www.transfermarkt.com/david-bates/profil/spieler/272539 No regrets at all here. Never was he good enough for Rangers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanksRFC 3,867 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I watched their game against Darmstadt on Friday, he made a complete arse of something in first half and they were lucky not to concede from that. Ten times more confident in our defence now than when he was in it. dougie76 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,102 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Redwhiteandblue said: Has played 7 games so far, conceded 1 goal after 6 shutout's in a row. I know he's playing for a massive club in the "wrong" league but I have a feeling we are going to regret letting him go big time. On a side note, £8 million for Worrall? Then how much is Bates really worth? With it being a free transfer, we won't even have a buy back, or sell on percentage. https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=72597 https://www.transfermarkt.com/david-bates/profil/spieler/272539 - We didn’t spend £8m on Worrall - Hamburg aren’t a massive club - German league 2 is a pish standard - Bates wasn’t worth £12k p/w when he left - Our four CB’s are better than he is dougie76, 35 Yard Dangerman and KeyserSoze 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I’d rather have Bates than Worrall Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CF2 WINNIE 1,006 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 27 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: How do you know this? Was pretty widely quoted at the time Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,716 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Siwel said: I’d rather have Bates than Worrall Do you think David Bates deserved around a 9k pw uplift? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,613 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Bates is a poor man's Craig Halkett.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
laudrupno1 3,932 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Sounds like he's become a great goalie Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,780 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, Siwel said: I’d rather have Bates than Worrall No mate. Saw how Bates played in a few games. Way more potential in Worrall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,520 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, CF2 WINNIE said: Was pretty widely quoted at the time No - it was pretty widely “made up” at the time no one really knows his wages and what the offer was - but at a guesstimate it would be more than his actual worth that’s for sure Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 29 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: Do you think David Bates deserved around a 9k pw uplift? Probably not mate but I wonder what Worrall is on Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 25 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said: No mate. Saw how Bates played in a few games. Way more potential in Worrall. Maybe pal but we won’t see Worralls potential he’s only here for a season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,716 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Just now, Siwel said: Probably not mate but I wonder what Worrall is on Probably only paying a % of whatever his Forrest wage is Lloyd 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,780 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Siwel said: Maybe pal but we won’t see Worralls potential he’s only here for a season. Yeah I know, but think he will turn into a real good player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 31 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said: Yeah I know, but think he will turn into a real good player. Possibly mate, he hadn’t played a lot of football for a while before he came to us so he’s probably not at his best yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Redwhiteandblue said: Did we offer him a contract? If we did, was it the sort of contract you would expect for a first team Rangers player? I’m not David Bates ffs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Good player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,350 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Rfc52 said: Do you think David Bates deserved around a 9k pw uplift? Depends what you’re basing it on? If it’s by overall contribution, he deserved more than he got. He’ll have seen Alves on £30k+ and Cardoso also on significantly more than him offering precisely fuck all in return in the same position. And that’s without touching on the likes of Herrera or Pena. I wouldn’t have offered him £10k, but I’d imagine he’d have stayed for £7k-ish a week. We offered him peanuts by all accounts. He’d be a decent back up, but I’d put Goldson, Katic and Worral ahead of him. 35 Yard Dangerman 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,360 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I like Bates, he’s a good cunt. Absolutely no idea what the problem is with him by a few on here but he never did us a wrong turn so it’s rather baffling ?♂️ Hope he goes on to be a success and the bitters in here are seething Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,716 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 minute ago, graeme_4 said: Depends what you’re basing it on? If it’s by overall contribution, he deserved more than he got. He’ll have seen Alves on £30k+ and Cardoso also on significantly more than him offering precisely fuck all in return in the same position. And that’s without touching on the likes of Herrera or Pena. I wouldn’t have offered him £10k, but I’d imagine he’d have stayed for £7k-ish a week. We offered him peanuts by all accounts. He’d be a decent back up, but I’d put Goldson, Katic and Worral ahead of him. So really the money Hamburg gave him.you wouldn't have? Long winded way to agree with me graeme_4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,350 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Just now, Rfc52 said: So really the money Hamburg gave him.you wouldn't have? Long winded way to agree with me I wouldn’t have no, but you can see why he deserved / expected more than we offered. RFC55 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 minute ago, King Jela said: I like Bates, he’s a good cunt. Absolutely no idea what the problem is with him by a few on here but he never did us a wrong turn so it’s rather baffling ?♂️ Hope he goes on to be a success and the bitters in here are seething The problem is because he was threw in at the deep end the previous season and looked every bit a fish out of water. Last season he was much improved but peoples minds were made up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,716 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Just now, graeme_4 said: I wouldn’t have no, but you can see why he deserved / expected more than we offered. He deserved more and was a decent player for us. He seen shite play in for.my of him on huge money so aye he'd be annoyed. But imho he's another who played through circumstance and isn't worth what Hamburg paid for him Hamburg also paid him.a bigger wage as he was a free agent. If they'd bought him his wage would have been down from.what he's on now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Jeffrey said: Out of curiosity what do you think that makes Bates worth. He wasn't going to be a first team player... I don't think Worrall is worth anywhere near £8m. Bougherra cost us £3m and out of those three, I know who I'd rather have in our team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,427 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Redwhiteandblue said: I don't think Worrall is worth anywhere near £8m. Bougherra cost us £3m and out of those three, I know who I'd rather have in our team. wit Could you answer the question I asked you please. RFC55 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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