Virtuoso 27,180 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Fuck me, just when you think you have seen and heard it all - there's this: https://www.followfollow.com/the-scottish-footballing-press-now-and-in-the-future/ (sorry, too much to cut n' paste) ? Basically the jist of it is - pay MD to go out and buy 4 daily newspapers and he'll photograph the back pages for you. There are no words... Bears r us and Carsons Dog 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 Full article: Quote The Scottish footballing press - now and in the future By Mark Dingwall Since late May I’ve been photographing the football pages from Scottish papers and putting them up on the Follow Follow messageboard and Facebook site. The record for one day was 73 images. I’ve since settled into a routine of usually buying four dailies and taking pictures of the back pages and occasionally inside pages a of a few more up in the newsagents. I think the images give a decent flavour of the daily press output. It takes about an hour to photograph, edit and upload them each day. The cost of the papers for the month of September was £146.56 – please feel free to correct my arithmetic! I should note that for the first few weeks I was relying on a friendly news agent – but to be frank it was a bit uncomfortable denying him sales that I should have been making and getting in the way of his other customers as I sticky-fingered my way through his stock! So I photograph a few papers and normally buy four a day. At the weekends the cost of all papers rises and I also found myself following the demise of the Sunday Herald and the launch of the National and the Herald’s Sunday offerings. Additionally, I wanted a close look at the weekend magazines of the Herald and Scotsman which both still retain great production values and often unusual and entertaining articles despite cost-cutting in both. I should declare that I’ve always been a fan of newspapers – our home was an Evening Citizen household before that great paper folded – thereafter my dad would bring home the Evening Times and the Daily Record, my mum the Daily Express. For most of the late 80s and 90s I was buying five papers a day – the Herald, Scotsman, Record, Sun and Irish Times. Many people now get all their news from the TV or online and papers sales have declined but they still remain important. WHY DO PAPERS STILL MATTER? With some ‘tricky’ stories we ardent internet users can be 72 hours ahead of the papers on certain stories. We can cut and paste – they have to get them past editors, sub-editors and legal teams. However, be in no doubt that the working day of every news office – internet, TV or radio – starts with going over the papers. Papers are still more often than not the source which sets the news agenda. Papers are less regulated than TV or radio – they can be more biased and reckless in their treatment of stories. Their presence in offices and shops – spare copies lying around, billboards, etc – mean that they influence millions of us whether we buy them or not. In Lanarkshire, for instance, the Daily Record advertising people can put together a package between their various national papers, their online presence, local weekly papers they own and deals with local radio to give an 85% penetration of the market. Their brands are now online brands as much as newspaper titles. SIGNS OF STRAIN There’s no doubt papers have dropped in influence and the lack of resources now sees many very dependent on news conferences and press releases for content rather than individual journalists breaking stories. Staff numbers have been cut so that often journalists imply don’t leave the office – some online staff have to produce between 8 and 10 stories a day – hence sensationalism and cut and paste jobs from social media lunacy are the order of the day on many news websites. The Express, Star and Record and now owned by the same company – moving into the same offices and journalist numbers being cut – in the last few weeks copy from Record journalists like Craig Swann and Gary Ralston has started appearing in both the Express and Star (coverage from Ufa for instance) simply because they don’t have the resources to send their own people. The Express and Star do retain their own identities and staff (I really like the style of the Star) but I fully expect them to end up with a couple fo freelancers producing their unique content and have the rest lifted and re-designed from the Record. SOMETHING FOR THE WEEKEND The cost of papers are the weekend shoots up – those supplements are not free! The Saturday and Sunday editions tend to be treated like flagships and extra resources are given to them – I’m not sure how long that can continue – the Saturday magazines of the Herald and Scotsman are like something from another world in terms of the design, photography and effort. With their circulations how long can that continue? Reporting now shows you how dependent the papers are on the post-match quotes from players and management – old-style match reports are largely redundant in an age where anyone who wants to will have seen the match live or highlights (legal or illegal) several times by the time they get a paper. WHY I SETTLED ON BUYING FOUR DAILY PAPERS After a few weeks of buying and reading the papers I began to think “If i had buy just one of these which would it be?” Probably for volume of material it would be the Record. For a combination of volume and lack of anti-bias it would be the Evening Times. For putting online I think the four dailies I have chosen cover most of the current topics pretty well. I still do take time to flick through the other papers in the shop and photo what I think might appeal or simply to give flavour of the coverage. THE RECORD When you think of what has happened to this once grand old champion of the West of Scotland working class it would make you weep. It now seems to have the vulgar and lumpen as it’s target audience and can’t quite make its mind up whether to be honest in its Unionism or to continue to pander to the shrieking hatred of the Yessers. On the sports desk it has the largest team of journalists available with about eight of them covering football – its just a bit odd that head honcho Keith Jackson now never actually goes to games. In any other paper this would be a problem! The Record’s Hotline is a daily source of both dread and amusement – sadly, I think most of the contributions from punters are genuine. For sheer volume of coverage the Record is a first stop. THE EVENING TIMES As a Rangers or celtic fan you can guarantee at least two pages of coverage of your team every day in the Evening Times. Usually four pages most days as columnists like Lee McCulloch or Derek Johnstone fire in. The Evening Times style is both partisan and non-controversial – it provides an easy read – a comfortable service to their readers. A celtic fan like their Rangers stuff? Well, you won’t be offended by the celtic coverage, and vice-versa. It’s very clear commitment to serving the fans of both clubs and the ‘house style’ of the paper means the journalists can go both in-depth to some issues and pander to the taste of their readers on occasion. THE SCOTTISH DAILY MAIL They’ve got a smaller sports team than the Record but the quality can be good – but with a proviso. The bias of three of their leading journos – McGowan, McGarry and Greechan – are such that you often have to read between the lines on certain subjects of interest to Old Firm fans. Yet, all three can often surprise you with the slant they take on issues and there are days when there is no old Firm coverage as they are actually all out and about providing a service looking at what is going on with the other clubs in Scotland. One of the few papers left where individual journos are given the time and space to develop ideas in long single-issue articles. THE SUN It’s now the biggest selling paper in Scotland yet I’ve hated the layout of the sports pages for 20+ years! It has always seemed dark and cramped. Between them Andy Devlin, Roger Hannah and Robert Grieve probably break more genuine exclusives than the rest of the press pack combined. Amid that coverage it never fails to amaze me that they continue to publish the tedious tripe Bill Leckie has churned out for 20 years – initially Leckie was producing good stuff but fell into bad habits and can’t raise his game above a diet of ‘ah support a wee club, we’re real fans and God bless the Tartan Army – as my old granny used to say, it’s like a gramophone with a bump in it. THE LACK OF DIVERSITY Perhaps it’s my memory playing tricks on me – but you now have a far less diverse sporting press – fewer genuine stories being broken as clubs like to keep content for their own websites. A heavy reliance on press conference quotes – during the recent international break there appear to have been some days when the SFA and Scotland sponsors had four players or ex-players giving quotes on the same day – and the same after-after-match quotes. Days can go by with virtually the same content across all the papers – the easy to do stories. Probably a combination of lack of bodies and money has killed a lot of that. Yet, even genuinely exclusive transfer stories are now few and far between. OUR EXPERIMENT ON FOLLOW FOLLOW Simply photographing the papers is obviously not real journalism – but it does provide a service to our punters – many of whom have now gone nearly 20 years without buying a paper. It gives a flavour of what is being produced and the number of threads on all message boards and social media outlets tells you fans both have and insatiable thirst for news about their clubs and that they will take that news from wherever they find it. Could you do without it? JOURNALISM ISN’T CHEAP As an experiment I was in Northern Ireland the other week – no overnight stay or meals but yet the flights, train/bus tickets and airport car parking came to £126.44 for the day. I produced four shortish videos ahead of the Rangers XI playing Larne and stuck them up on The Gers TV as an experiment. If I had needed an overnight stay plus meals etc it would have easily broken £200 – so I can understand why lots of sports desk opt for the easy and cheap option of employing journalists who rarely leave their desks. But how are these guys ever going to produce a rich and varied output of genuinely new content? THE $64,000 QUESTION Fans who know where to look can find most of the newspaper content and live games for free online. If they don’t find it on their usual websites they just search elsewhere. That’s the funding problem newspapers and TV stations will continue to struggle with. Can you live without it? THE TESTER Are people prepared to pay? I’m going to run a trial over the next month and see if punters care enough about the papers to contribute to the cost of buying them. You can see, from the expenses sheet I’ve published, the costs involved. I’ve no idea what the response will be but I’ll report back! The cost of the papers for the month of September was £146.56. Over the course of a month it’s about £4.88 a day. The four tabloids cost £2.63 on a weekday. You might consider it as a sponsorship. Paypal links are below. A PAPER POUND – https://tinyurl.com/PAPERPOUND FOUR DAILY TABLOIDS – https://tinyurl.com/FOURTABLOIDS AVERAGE DAILY COST – https://tinyurl.com/AVERAGEDAILYCOST SATURDAY SPECIAL – https://tinyurl.com/SATURDAYSPECIALFF THE SUNDAY PAPERS – https://tinyurl.com/SUNDAYPAPERSFF THE FULL MONTHLY MONTY – https://tinyurl.com/FULLMONTHLYMONTY Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rangersross 6,530 Posted October 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2018 Fucking hell. Wonder if I can get people to chip-in for my morning rolls and milk. Blueshoff, Leeds_Bear, CooperSF and 22 others 25 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wullyRFC 5,230 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Cunts becoming a parody of himself what a wanker ? dougie76 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Why does that not surprise me from that fat cunt. dougie76 and Blumhoilann 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Specky Forum Organiser 64,670 Posted October 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2018 Donated. superally07, RosscoRFC87, VentyFour and 18 others 21 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Why is he doing this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,721 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Straight-Edge-Loyal said: Why is he doing this? Why is the leech leeching or buying papers? If you're querying the latter, it's purely as an excuse to leech.? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trueblueal 2,117 Posted October 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2018 For years now I've been getting a roll and a coffee on the way to work. It's not cheap. I've calculated the cost is £497.23 to date. Roll sales are vital to our local bakers. Support me and pay for my rolls. Coffee is crucial to allow me to get up in the morning and post this sort of important information for our mutual benefit. Donate so that I can get a Cappuccino and not a filter coffee, maybe even a doubler roll. Blumhoilann, Spliffy, rfclondon and 5 others 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,721 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 He's also looking to test food in every takeaway within a 10 mile radius of Ibrox, for fans benefit, if anyone wants to contribute to his cause. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Guy's a hero to the Rangers support for putting himself out like this, well done MD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbt1548 1,839 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 In other words, "Please pay for my reading habits". Oh! and if this turns out to be successful I will launch my new book , 'Gullible's Travels' Blumhoilann 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sket 13,610 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 What an embarrassing,begging bastard. .Williamson., dougie76, _mcv_ and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4XGERSBF3 240 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Strange as fuck thing to ask people to donate for. Papers will eventually die out its a matter of time. Spliffy, The No.9 and big blue Fin 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CF2 WINNIE 1,006 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Know a few that are friends with him just can’t inderstand it, leech Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,455 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I wish him and ilk would have no influence on the club. Absolute morons the lot of them. dougie76 and Carsons Dog 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Did he photograph the BB’s paper, the blank one murray was waving about and which dingbat likes to quote at times ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperPapac05 3,383 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Typical SNP cunt there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thebooler 4,509 Posted October 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2018 Like him or loathe him, it’s a great idea. Now who wants tae pay for ma porn mags every week? The guy’s a fukkin loonball, and the sad thing is, he’ll get plenty donations from his follow followers. It must annoy him tae see Houston, Marshall & Graham all employed by the club noo. Bears r us, LochendBilly, Bobby Hume and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jintybear 8,536 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Did the people on FF ask him to do this? If so then I suppose they should contribute, if not then he shouldn't be out with his begging bowl. He even said himself that he likes newspapers so is it right that the members of a forum pay for his indulgence? I don't know the guy but it seems a bit off to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,483 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Bears Den? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Vandenbroucke 26,158 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 _mcv_ and CoopsLaud 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,197 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 For fuck sake Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyaleastend 3,260 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Messiah complex syndrome it seems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakbear 3,586 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I can rarely bring myself to be critical of people who try such a ludicrous money making venture. If some daft cunts are willing to send him money for photos of newspapers then more power to his elbow. Fools and money are soon parted. He seems to have cottoned on to this. It’s not even like he is trying to hoodwink anyone he is brazenly asking for donations to take photos of his papers. If folk choose to do so then he is a genius bluedylan, 1690tamRFC and dougie76 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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