Virtuoso 27,180 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Aberdeen had Maddisons yellow card over-turned https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11789/10666671/aberdeen-appeal-james-maddisons-booking-in-the-3-1-win-at-inverness https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/14925910.aberdeen-successfully-appeal-yellow-card-shown-to-james-maddison-for-diving/ There's no excuse for saying it can't be done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,010 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Virtuoso said: Aberdeen had Maddisons yellow card over-turned https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11789/10666671/aberdeen-appeal-james-maddisons-booking-in-the-3-1-win-at-inverness https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/14925910.aberdeen-successfully-appeal-yellow-card-shown-to-james-maddison-for-diving/ There's no excuse for saying it can't be done. Interesting. Where does this chat about yellow cards can't be overturned come from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,256 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 20 minutes ago, Virtuoso said: Aberdeen had Maddisons yellow card over-turned https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11789/10666671/aberdeen-appeal-james-maddisons-booking-in-the-3-1-win-at-inverness https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/14925910.aberdeen-successfully-appeal-yellow-card-shown-to-james-maddison-for-diving/ There's no excuse for saying it can't be done. Simulation and mistaken identity are the two reasons yellows can be rescinded. Unless they've amended the rules, Candeias one for blowing kisses / being assaulted won't be. Fucking ridiculous but the SFA do like a rule book to hide behind. They should insert a 3rd rule retrospectively: One for refereeing decisions that are fabricated and bring game into disrepute due to absurdity and/ or stupidity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,256 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 18 minutes ago, Amato said: Interesting. Where does this chat about yellow cards can't be overturned come from? Its been detailed by SFA in previous situations where ridiculous decisions given. Certainly up to last season only incidents of simulation or mistaken identity could have yellows rescinded. Not heard that it's changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
laudrupno1 3,932 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 I see we're appealing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,256 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, laudrupno1 said: I see we're appealing it. Hopefully we've got better grounds of appeal than just complete common sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears 791 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 The only possibility is mistaken identity of the aggressive action if Collum says he booked Candeias for a soft head-butt as it could have looked from behind, but which was caused by Ferdinand's punch to the jaw as can be seen from the front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 4,654 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Glad we're appealing. Any justice it'll be successful. Be a laugh to hear that wee ratfuck try to explain his actions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboBear 162 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Think the authorities are just going through the motions to be seen to be thorough. Can't see this being overturned Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 54 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Can't wait for the implosion after we win this appeal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,839 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 hours ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Simulation and mistaken identity are the two reasons yellows can be rescinded. Unless they've amended the rules, Candeias one for blowing kisses / being assaulted won't be. Fucking ridiculous but the SFA do like a rule book to hide behind. They should insert a 3rd rule retrospectively: One for refereeing decisions that are fabricated and bring game into disrepute due to absurdity and/ or stupidity. this is a can of worms .I can see why yellows can't be rescinded as they would have far more appeals to process . for me any yellow that leads to a red card either a first or 2nd yellow card should be allowed appeal . it's a professional game where people earn a living .it may not be as significant for players earning good money at top clubs ,but for guys earning wages at the level of the normal working man ,suspensions and loss of appearance money and bonuses can be a big hit to them and it's not right that somebodys livelihood can be affected by poor decisions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 70,940 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 hours ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Its been detailed by SFA in previous situations where ridiculous decisions given. Certainly up to last season only incidents of simulation or mistaken identity could have yellows rescinded. Not heard that it's changed. Is it not the same everywhere? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,256 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Bears said: The only possibility is mistaken identity of the aggressive action if Collum says he booked Candeias for a soft head-butt as it could have looked from behind, but which was caused by Ferdinand's punch to the jaw as can be seen from the front. Logically that's more the action being mis interpreted (can't rescind) than mistaken identity (action seen was correct, it was someone else who did it). But I'm at a loss to see what grounds of appeal we have under the laws - common sense isn't a current law - so it must be something like your scenario above. Unless we've appealed it and they're obliged to hear our case..... before automatically ruling it out of hand as it's not simulation or mistaken identity. Who knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,256 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 56 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Is it not the same everywhere? I think it is / was. I've a vague recollection about something in the EPL a few years back where everyone wanted a yellow rescinded but it couldn't be. Just something telling me it's came up more recently in Scotland,last season I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,256 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, magic8ball said: this is a can of worms .I can see why yellows can't be rescinded as they would have far more appeals to process . for me any yellow that leads to a red card either a first or 2nd yellow card should be allowed appeal . it's a professional game where people earn a living .it may not be as significant for players earning good money at top clubs ,but for guys earning wages at the level of the normal working man ,suspensions and loss of appearance money and bonuses can be a big hit to them and it's not right that somebodys livelihood can be affected by poor decisions I'd agree. 2nd yellows are the same as straight reds both during the game, and also after it with player suspensions. Whilst there's no way a system could handle appeals for any yellows, it certainly should for 2nd ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC Eagle 4,888 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 22 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Logically that's more the action being mis interpreted (can't rescind) than mistaken identity (action seen was correct, it was someone else who did it). But I'm at a loss to see what grounds of appeal we have under the laws - common sense isn't a current law - so it must be something like your scenario above. Unless we've appealed it and they're obliged to hear our case..... before automatically ruling it out of hand as it's not simulation or mistaken identity. Who knows. Its a stretch, but they could argue mistaken identity if Collum thought Candeias was the agressor when we can all see it was actually Ferdinand. That would depend on what Collum alleges he booked DC for. It would be interesting to see the report he submitted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrup1984 25,100 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Stv suggesting we're going down the mistaken identity route. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,524 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Sounds to me like we're chucking it out there to see if the officials want to save face by manufacturing a tenuous (mistaken identity isn't relevant unless there's something we dont kniw about) way to delete the card, knowing that the worst that can happen is that Collum's bizarre refereeing is highlighted again and we generally keep the pressure on officials regarding decisions against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 10,946 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 hours ago, magic8ball said: this is a can of worms .I can see why yellows can't be rescinded as they would have far more appeals to process . for me any yellow that leads to a red card either a first or 2nd yellow card should be allowed appeal . it's a professional game where people earn a living .it may not be as significant for players earning good money at top clubs ,but for guys earning wages at the level of the normal working man ,suspensions and loss of appearance money and bonuses can be a big hit to them and it's not right that somebodys livelihood can be affected by poor decisions Too sensible, mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 The only thing about this wee rhodent bastards performance .He clearly showed how biased he is against us . And we still win the game We won't be so lucky next time .I'm 100% of that .If the game is absolutely crucial ofcourse He may well give us some pens in the games that are run of the mill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens 869 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 I don't think there is any genuine feeling it will be overturned, instead I think this is an effort to keep the ridiculous nature of the decision in the spotlight well beyond the transparent efforts from some outlets to suggest that DC was a big bad violent kidder who deserved to be sent off for "violent shooshing" When we don't win, we get to release a statement highlighting Collum to the world. And if we do win, we've done the same. Well done to the Club, who I initially felt should have released a statement when I didn't think an appeal was possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,303 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Need to send a recording of DC’s sending off to Shalke and Galatasary for their game he is officiating. Ferret faced cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50ShadesofBlue 667 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, Inigo said: Sounds to me like we're chucking it out there to see if the officials want to save face by manufacturing a tenuous (mistaken identity isn't relevant unless there's something we dont kniw about) way to delete the card, knowing that the worst that can happen is that Collum's bizarre refereeing is highlighted again and we generally keep the pressure on officials regarding decisions against us. I wouldn't be surprised if the SFA suggested (off the record) we go down this route... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hume 12,680 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 4 hours ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Hopefully we've got better grounds of appeal than just complete common sense. They say that the pathetic pleading of sectarianism and racism are being used elsewhere to get stupid behaviour overturned is working for some ... might be worth a try mate .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big blue Fin 3,724 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Now we've appealed this ridiculous decision and the sfa have agreed to look at it then we may well see collum's decision being overturned. His actions alone are providing a good reason for bringing in video referees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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