eejay the dj 31,964 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 36 minutes ago, The Dude said: The move away from religion for many plays a big part in it. People don't care about religious fraternities when they don't practice any religious beliefs. The last Census had more people identify as non religious than belonging to any sect of Christianity. The kirk dropped 10% in a decade alone. That reminds me . Shettleston Church made into flats I see . Like many many others over the last decade They do not have a problem letting churches die in the rhancid Country . Whereas look at Cardonald up to Paisley . The whole papish part of the area is getting an upgrade if you are a chapel in Cardonald , The convent hidden beside the school there .Fuck knows where the money is found for these places . Yet we can't even get the postholes filled in near our fucking ground . Or Paisley chapel where thousands was spent on upgrading that building . This when Paisley is like a war zone . minstral and BLUEDIGNITY 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsa 3,906 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 44 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: What happened with that again mate Remind me .I was only half interested in that at the time https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.BOYCOTT THIS LINK/news/scottish-news/mystery-calls-between-david-goodwillies-10515048.amp Lord Advocate Francis Mullholland, Paul O'Brian QC, Liam O'Donell solicitor, i believe these were the people involved but of course, I could be mistaken. Goodwillie apparently sacked his agent and was then represented (in a football capacity) by Liam O'Donnell who also happened to be his solicitor. It was "alleged" that Goodwillie was given free legal services, in return for O'Donnell becoming his agent. The Lord Advocate decided not to prosecute leaving Goodwillie free to sign for Blackburn, good news for his agent... ^ All speculation of course and I am merely repeating what I have read online. I personally am not commenting on whether or not these claims are true. In fact, it all sounds slightly suspicious and if I was to hazard a guess, I'd say anyone holding the positions I mentioned above, would be way above taking part in anything untoward. eejay the dj 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 11 minutes ago, The Dude said: 2.5million heard Billy Graham speak at various events across Scotland in 1955. As of 2011 that would account for every Kirk Protestant and RC in the country. Bloody amazing thinking about that And there lies the answer to a massive part of the OPs question . Attitudes have absolutely changed Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 It is not really about religion, more about tribalism. Where is the power and what tribe is in power. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,030 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 5 hours ago, eejay the dj said: This Country and certainly Glasgow belonged to our people The immigrants slowly and cleverly using political manoeuvring originally .They stood up for all the injustices they perceived as one and slowly gained control of all the decision making institutions .Especially Centrally where they practically impregnable now in our lifetimes Many of them in my younger days studied law and you see the fruits of that nowadays. I reckon there must be 9/10 lawyers are beggars They placed their favourable people in positions of power, wherever that mattered The media latterly is now full of the scumbags with agenda for their beloved ones and against the Rangers The police used to be 80/% us in my younger days . Now I reckon it can't be far off 50/50 with storm troopers with high positions probably 75/25 shifting towards their own . and it’s very evident that the whole place has went downhill Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, gsa said: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.BOYCOTT THIS LINK/news/scottish-news/mystery-calls-between-david-goodwillies-10515048.amp Lord Advocate Francis Mullholland, Paul O'Brian QC, Liam O'Donell solicitor, i believe these were the people involved but of course, I could be mistaken. Goodwillie apparently sacked his agent and was then represented (in a football capacity) by Liam O'Donnell who also happened to be his solicitor. It was "alleged" that Goodwillie was given free legal services, in return for O'Donnell becoming his agent. The Lord Advocate decided not to prosecute leaving Goodwillie free to sign for Blackburn, good news for his agent... ^ All speculation of course and I am merely repeating what I have read online. I personally am not commenting on whether or not these claims are true. In fact, it all sounds slightly suspicious and if I was to hazard a guess, I'd say anyone holding the positions I mentioned above, would be way above taking part in anything untoward. I will give you that one . I think everything in this Country is corrupt so I'm in . However I'm glad we never signed him For his sake alone . His life would have been over . I think he has a quiet life now . So good decision for him . Corruption at hand or not Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post murzo 7,428 Posted November 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2018 6 hours ago, minstral said: Our club turn to the dignified silence when it comes to our traditions and culture, yet the scum across the city are not afraid to shout and promote their culture. Yet when it comes to child abuse there’s a deafening silence. BridgeIsBlue, minstral, They Gnu and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nameless Ghoul 5,967 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Coplandrear25 said: Tell that to the puddle drinkers who just had a mass in their honour at the very church involved in the Orange Walk controversy. No idea what you're on about I'm afraid mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,610 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, eejay the dj said: Bloody amazing thinking about that And there lies the answer to a massive part of the OPs question . Attitudes have absolutely changed Listen if there was a Billy Graham figurehead about nowadays there would still be millions who would turn up to listen to him or her, at this moment in time Christians or at least lapsed brought up Christians need something or somebody to believe in because right now there is nobody, it's a Billy Boy we need to lead the charge out of apathy. minstral and eejay the dj 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 minute ago, BLUEDIGNITY said: Listen if there was a Billy Graham figurehead about nowadays there would still be millions who would turn up to listen to him or her, at this moment in time Christians or at least lapsed brought up Christians need something or somebody to believe in because right now there is nobody, it's a Billy Boy we need to lead the charge out of apathy. His grandson is doing the same schtick. Struggled to attract more than a few hundred people in Falkirk over two days earlier this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,610 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, The Dude said: His grandson is doing the same schtick. Struggled to attract more than a few hundred people in Falkirk over two days earlier this year. His marketing isnae too clever then, Falkirk centre of the universe. There's alway a market for religion in whatever form, too lucrative. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy 730 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Glasgow is fucked now, never seen so many tims in management positions , both in my industry and in local government. In my place not one of them is fit to be in their position, and I say this as someone who used to be a middle of the road easy going guy. They are total , out of their depth arseholes, and I'm hopeful that in another year I can retire and get out of this fucked up city. Bobby Hume and minstral 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Just now, BLUEDIGNITY said: His marketing isnae too clever then, Falkirk centre of the universe. There's alway a market for religion in whatever form, too lucrative. The whole area was plastered in advertising. Almost every church locally had banners up advertising his events and local papers had ads too. People just don't really have much interest in religion anymore. In 2011 34% of Scots identified as CoS. It might not be centre of the universe but it's pretty close to the centre of the country and still nobody was particularly interested. It's only lucrative if you've got people willing to put their hand in their pockets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,610 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, The Dude said: The whole area was plastered in advertising. Almost every church locally had banners up advertising his events and local papers had ads too. People just don't really have much interest in religion anymore. In 2011 34% of Scots identified as CoS. It might not be centre of the universe but it's pretty close to the centre of the country and still nobody was particularly interested. It's only lucrative if you've got people willing to put their hand in their pockets. Religion will never go away, in fact the next war will only awaken it again, always does. That's how Jesus never did the resurrection gig in Falkirk, poor crowd. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 minute ago, BLUEDIGNITY said: Religion will never go away, in fact the next war will only awaken it again, always does. That's how Jesus never did the resurrection gig in Falkirk, poor crowd. It will never go away completely but it will become largely irrelevant to people. That more people in Scotland identify as non-religious than any particular sect of Christianity speaks volumes. I wouldn't be surprised if come the next census non-religious comfortably outnumber all the Christian sects in Scotland combined. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,610 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 22 minutes ago, Grundy said: Glasgow is fucked now, never seen so many tims in management positions , both in my industry and in local government. In my place not one of them is fit to be in their position, and I say this as someone who used to be a middle of the road easy going guy. They are total , out of their depth arseholes, and I'm hopeful that in another year I can retire and get out of this fucked up city. They've got the place fucked but that's why they are put there to rape and pillage, they don't give a fuck if they leave it razed to the ground they have no history with it, they move on to the next plunder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,610 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, The Dude said: It will never go away completely but it will become largely irrelevant to people. That more people in Scotland identify as non-religious than any particular sect of Christianity speaks volumes. I wouldn't be surprised if come the next census non-religious comfortably outnumber all the Christian sects in Scotland combined. It'll be largely irrelevant to non Christians but we'll have holy war here before that. Christ we are fair off topic here now eh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 minute ago, BLUEDIGNITY said: It'll be largely irrelevant to non Christians but we'll have holy war here before that. Christ we are fair off topic here now eh. No we won't. There's more chance of a Protestant being made pope than there is of 'holy war' in Britain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,610 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, The Dude said: No we won't. There's more chance of a Protestant being made pope than there is of 'holy war' in Britain. Yes we will. Incidently as you are a falkirk bairn apparently, does that gordon waddell come from falkirk? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsa 3,906 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: No we won't. There's more chance of a Protestant being made pope than there is of 'holy war' in Britain. Another dense comment from the gutter press's most enthusiastic cheerleader. A Protestant being made pope, is not possible. A holy war, while highly unlikely, is possible. Bobby Hume 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, gsa said: Another dense comment from the gutter press's most enthusiastic cheerleader. A Protestant being made pope, is not possible. A holy war, while highly unlikely, is possible. I bet you're the kind of person who, when someone says "aye and pigs might fly" you respond with "well they can't they don't have wings or viable method of propulsion." ForeverAndEver 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlands plater 16,933 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, BLUEDIGNITY said: Listen if there was a Billy Graham figurehead about nowadays there would still be millions who would turn up to listen to him or her, at this moment in time Christians or at least lapsed brought up Christians need something or somebody to believe in because right now there is nobody, it's a Billy Boy we need to lead the charge out of apathy. I think people nowadays have seen through people like Billy Graham. bluedylan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 29 minutes ago, BLUEDIGNITY said: iYes we will. Incidently as you are a falkirk bairn apparently, does that gordon waddell come from falkirk? I'm not a 'Falkirk bairn' I live in a town about halfway between Falkirk & Stirling. Waddell's from Falkirk. He doesn't like me for some reason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,610 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, harlands plater said: I think people nowadays have seen through people like Billy Graham. There's still plenty like him going about in the States with their followers, funny though that not many see through the pope or islamic leaders though eh, they've still got millions of gilberts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,610 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, The Dude said: I'm not a 'Falkirk bairn' I live in a town about halfway between Falkirk & Stirling. Waddell's from Falkirk. He doesn't like me for some reason. Yeah I thought he was from there, in fact I knew, I remember that used to be a comfortably strong Protestant area, Masonic and Orange, but like everywhere else I suppose it's folded to sects of the darkside. Bobby Hume 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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