Lerry1971 249 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Met him recently at an even in the EICC Edinburgh. Thought he was great company,and was never out of hand with the females there that I saw. Innocent till proven I say. Still my hero though. The greatest midfielder I've ever seen play the game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertContraband 282 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 18 hours ago, With Heart and Hand said: Its fuck all to do with Rangers tho, how should the Club distance itself from him? IIRC he hasn't been to Ibrox in years and I don't know of any official club events hes been to,so what's the Club meant to do? Release a statement condemning him? He's an ex player the Club aren't responsible for his behaviour, there's also a huge bias against him in the media I wish him all the best hes obviously not a well man and will always be a Rangers Legend imo and he's not been found guilty of anything yet He's a seperate entity born a blue nose 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBufalo20 7,887 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 9 hours ago, BLUEDIGNITY said: Innocent until proven guilty especially by barrack room lawyers on social mheejah, or do you have information that others don't, are you in the mheejah? I never said he was guilty. Just know it’s not a set up by anti Rangers media! ForeverAndEver and OhW 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhW 4,669 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 15 hours ago, siddiqi_drinker said: Bump into a wee entitled cow these days and it's sexual assault #FUCKYERMETOOCROWD Oh and fuck these bastards trying to eradicate Due Process like in the Kavanaugh hearing. Try taking a break from YouTube sometimes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
They Gnu 11,553 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, OhW said: Try taking a break from YouTube sometimes. So what’s he said you disagree with? siddiqi_drinker 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,647 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, ElBufalo20 said: I never said he was guilty. Just know it’s not a set up by anti Rangers media! Ahh so you are in mheejah, that's cleared that up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhW 4,669 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 28 minutes ago, They Gnu said: So what’s he said you disagree with? I just think spending too much time watching "news" on YouTube can make people go a bit mental. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoodyBlue1872 3,078 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 On the basis of Gazza's version of events, he has done nothing wrong IMO. He has actually gone to assist the woman. We'll see what unfolds but I can't see a case for sexual assault based on the information we know so far. He's hardly likely to be genuinely sexually assaulting someone in front of his nephew or niece or whoever he was with ffs. True Hair Bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaudrup 5,331 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 If it is over a kiss on a cheek, then Hogmanay down south must be a riot! Under s3(b) it would have to be 'sexual' and I'm sure it's arguable that the context was consoling. It's a key hurdle because any touch between people whatsoever is covered by s3(a). (I believe in Scotland the same test is "intentionally or recklessly touches B sexually") It's all based on a few tweets though, presumably there's another side to the story we've yet to hear. If for example you were on a train trying to chat someone up, telling them they're lovely, and then kissed them on the cheek, the context is very different. It sounds like the very lowest end of the spectrum, but we'll see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,245 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Should be anonymity for both, problem solved. tannerall 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,371 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 23 hours ago, ritchieshearercaldow said: The former Rangers player......that’s how it was reported on BBC Scotland. Always thought he played for other clubs as well, I must be wrong. What’s your point? There is probably a Lazio fan in Rome bemoaning the fact their national news failed to mention he played for Newcastle, Tottenham and Rangers. Seems fairly obvious to me why BBC Scotland mentioned the Scottish football team he played for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
They Gnu 11,553 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 4 hours ago, OhW said: I just think spending too much time watching "news" on YouTube can make people go a bit mental. Fuck me, it was a simple question. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CF2 WINNIE 1,006 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 16 hours ago, BlearyEyedBear said: Whenever I see or hear his name now, it’s never good news. He really should distance himself from drama, but it seems he always wants to get involved. For example, the Raoul Moat carry on a while back. Don’t think he really chose to get involved in the Raoul moat incident. Clearly not a well bloke at the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I think the papers seem to have some vendetta on Gazza and will only be happy if he takes his own life. pollok-bear and Perth_Campsie_Ger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 7 hours ago, OhW said: Try taking a break from YouTube sometimes. Not sure if you are trying to make a point but I rarely watch anything other than comedy or music videos on youtube, you tube. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bears r us 30,791 Posted November 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2018 I cannot see why it was on Reporting Scotland last night for any other reason than an attempt to even up the Torbett story on immediately before it. Paranoid protestant I may be, but I believe I am right. BLUEDIGNITY, Bobby Hume, pollok-bear and 7 others 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,647 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bears r us said: I cannot see why it was on Reporting Scotland last night for any other reason than an attempt to even up the Torbett story on immediately before it. Paranoid protestant I may be, but I believe I am right. Spot on Bud, shower of shitpot appeasing rhats the lot of them ! Bobby Hume, AlbertzLoyalRSC, 16BlueSherbert90 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,791 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, BLUEDIGNITY said: Spot on Bud, shower of shitpot appeasing rhats the lot of them ! BLUEDIGNITY 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Soprano 22,428 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Plenty cctv on trains now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJMcGregor 741 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 On 19/11/2018 at 17:53, RFC Eagle said: Its the CPS and they have a track record of prosecutions with little, or even contradictory evidence. Its not good for him because the press will be all over it and judgements made before the full facts are apparent. 1 Is that not the same though in any of these cases (hence why we need anonymity) let's be frank those that already dislike Gazza and our club will automatically tar him with the Jury verdict. In the same way, many on here would automatically condemn Salmond in regards to his situation. To me situations like this only emphasize the need for anonymity especially for those with a history of mental health, I can't imagine this whole ordeal is helping his state in any way either. Innocent until proven guilty must prevail Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,647 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 On 19 November 2018 at 14:06, ritchieshearercaldow said: The former Rangers player......that’s how it was reported on BBC Scotland. Always thought he played for other clubs as well, I must be wrong. To be honest though the bbc or indeed anybody cellic minded commenting on this is like gerry and kate mccann doing a presentation on parenting skills! Bears r us and Bobby Hume 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC Eagle 4,888 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 hour ago, RJMcGregor said: Is that not the same though in any of these cases (hence why we need anonymity) let's be frank those that already dislike Gazza and our club will automatically tar him with the Jury verdict. In the same way, many on here would automatically condemn Salmond in regards to his situation. To me situations like this only emphasize the need for anonymity especially for those with a history of mental health, I can't imagine this whole ordeal is helping his state in any way either. Innocent until proven guilty must prevail Its a problem with all sexual assault/rape cases. I believe that anonymity should be for both victim and accused. There are a number of cases where names are bandied about (the Rachel Nickell murder being a case that springs to mind) where innocent men (its usually men) have their reputations destroyed. Even when they are proven innocent the stigma remains. I also believe that women who are proven to have falsely accused someone, for malicious reasons, should be given lengthy sentences. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
16BlueSherbert90 19,223 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 hour ago, RJMcGregor said: Is that not the same though in any of these cases (hence why we need anonymity) let's be frank those that already dislike Gazza and our club will automatically tar him with the Jury verdict. In the same way, many on here would automatically condemn Salmond in regards to his situation. To me situations like this only emphasize the need for anonymity especially for those with a history of mental health, I can't imagine this whole ordeal is helping his state in any way either. Innocent until proven guilty must prevail Salmond is NOT a gentleman. Again, I have met this man and know who he truly is. I worked in hospitality and many functions where he was present. His story is far from innocent and WILL be proven guilty despite the media hype portraying him as a good man. He's anything but. I will condemn him till his days of freedom are numbered and will carry on thereon after. He is despicable. Gazza was and still is a gent in my eyes because I was lucky enough to know him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJMcGregor 741 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Sweettartangirl said: Salmond is NOT a gentleman. Again, I have met this man and know who he truly is. I worked in hospitality and many functions where he was present. His story is far from innocent and WILL be proven guilty despite the media hype portraying him as a good man. He's anything but. I will condemn him till his days of freedom are numbered and will carry on thereon after. He is despicable. Gazza was and still is a gent in my eyes because I was lucky enough to know him. 1 I thought innocent until proven guilty no? Did you see Salmond sexually harass or abuse somebody? And if so why aren’t you going to the police about it? Why didn’t you report his behaviour at the time to the police if not at least the media? It’s an obvious double standard that you have, and meeting somebody at an event you work at isn’t the same as knowing them. One of the guys I worked with in Deutsche Bank was lovely, married with kids, a complete gentleman, that was until police found images of children on his computer, genuinely the least suspecting guy. So I don’t think your experiences with Gazza are necessarily reflective of who he is as a person, and that’s without bringing up the obvious issues with mental health and addiction which will likely have been a factor if this charge is true Also nowhere did I state Salmond was a gentleman, I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy with people when they automatically believe one party is innocent because they are on their side. Why not wait until the evidence proves definitively one way or the other. Gman36, FSM and OhW 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,449 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 smartypants, Terry Hurlock Loyal and RJMcGregor 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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