Blueshoff 11,743 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 11 hours ago, kanjo said: Pub for me. Won’t pay a penny to sky. Will likely cancel BT too right enough. This for me too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 The problem with Scottish football is there’s too many clubs wanting a slice of a small pie. Killie will only have large attendances 4 times a season, same as the sheep. Imagine a neutral watching the sheep vs Dundee in a stadium with about 3000 fans? Never happening. Scottish football needs a whole revamp. Too many clubs, not enough fans and not enough money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wullyRFC 5,230 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Shite deal aye but people really need to stop comparing us with other leagues especially the EPL which is watched and supported all over the world. We play in a diddy 1* league that most Scots can't even be arsed with. laudrupno1 and MasterD 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,455 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 7 hours ago, BlearyEyedBear said: This all stems from Roger Mitchell’s decision to reject Sky in favour of his own pie-in-the sky SPL TV channel which never got off the ground. Lex Gold then took a gamble on the Setanta TV deal, confidently stating that it wouldn’t lead to collapse like ITV Digital. Well we all know what happened there. Sky stepped in to bail us out and we’ve been playing with the weaker hand in negotiations ever since. Definitely agree with what you're saying on the past deals. However we now have both sky and bt with a share of our games. They've both gone mental in the past trying to outbid each other for various sports TV rights. The fact that we couldn't transform that situation into a better deal says a lot about how the Scottish game is valued. BlearyEyedBear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy 1,308 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 So BT have lost Italian and Scottish football. That leaves Champions and Europa leagues with no change in price. Hmmm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kris1984 1,238 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 20 minutes ago, wullyRFC said: Shite deal aye but people really need to stop comparing us with other leagues especially the EPL which is watched and supported all over the world. We play in a diddy 1* league that most Scots can't even be arsed with. It’s fair to compare us with other diddy leagues and it doesn’t compare well Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 81,946 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, Shuggy said: So BT have lost Italian and Scottish football. That leaves Champions and Europa leagues with no change in price. Hmmm. They have German and English football. Losing the odd Scottish game won't impact them very much at all Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluchoo 846 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 13 hours ago, DMax399 said: The EFL (Championship) has just announced a deal worth £595m. Almost 6 x the SPFL one. The Championship hasnt its the EFL the £600 million is split between the 72 clubs. Championship clubs will get a bigger share but the deal is for the full football league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,607 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Sky sports just showing some scum game highlights. Just had the Edu game and our 3-1 win there showing. Strong performances, solid teams. The boy Davis looked good ..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie76 15,356 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 12 hours ago, Pure_Quality said: If you want to watch us in Europe you'll still need a BT subscription because RTV don't cover those games live, which is a total pisser TBH. You'll find a way without giving any of the cunts a penny. LochendBilly 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LochendBilly 8,410 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, dougie76 said: You'll find a way without giving any of the cunts a penny. Always a way! Seek and thee shall find. dougie76 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoodyBlue1872 3,078 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 It is what it is. Scottish football has made absolutely NO attempt over the years to improve the set up. We have plastic pitches, unfinished stadia, ignorance of fan culture, embedded bitterness and general laziness by the authorities. Scottish football is only getting what it deserves after years and years of incompetence and mis-management. They thought they could sit back, let things continue to go downhill - yet expect a bumper tv deal ?? Their arrogance is astounding. BlueKnight87, magic8ball and BlearyEyedBear 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,473 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 14 hours ago, fanaticCR said: At most of the games anyway so couldn’t really care less. I have absolutely no idea why I pay for Sky or BT 😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Whenever they don’t give you a ballpark figure then it’s a shit deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 BT cancelled then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 14 hours ago, cushynumber said: not unhappy with this because of the single broadcaster element. basically get rid of andy walker and i will be fine. And Crocker. cushynumber and plumbGER 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,275 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 56 minutes ago, MoodyBlue1872 said: It is what it is. Scottish football has made absolutely NO attempt over the years to improve the set up. We have plastic pitches, unfinished stadia, ignorance of fan culture, embedded bitterness and general laziness by the authorities. Scottish football is only getting what it deserves after years and years of incompetence and mis-management. They thought they could sit back, let things continue to go downhill - yet expect a bumper tv deal ?? Their arrogance is astounding. Brilliantly summed up mate 👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
laudrupno1 3,932 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 hour ago, wullyRFC said: Shite deal aye but people really need to stop comparing us with other leagues especially the EPL which is watched and supported all over the world. We play in a diddy 1* league that most Scots can't even be arsed with. Bang on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wullyRFC 5,230 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 hour ago, kris1984 said: It’s fair to compare us with other diddy leagues and it doesn’t compare well So you've compared Scottish football viewing figures with other diddy league football figures then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,607 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I've heard it's a worse deal than the Swedish league. Surely to fuck we're a bigger deal and more marketable than there. magic8ball 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBufalo20 7,871 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Think it’s a good deal in fairness. Decent money and as another poster said need to stop comparing ourselves to the EPL. A lot of the tv deals across comparable leagues are slightly higher due to the actual numbers shown which is far higher to the 48 agreed with Sky. If clubs got more money but more games were shown people wouldn’t be happy with too different kick off times. Of course our away games will be moved but it’s still satisfying to know that the majority of our home games will still be 3pm Saturday kick off like the rest of the clubs in the country. This is surely the benefit to the actual paying fan and clubs still get a decent amount from the tv deal. A proper highlights package is more important than the live games currently in my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 hour ago, MoodyBlue1872 said: It is what it is. Scottish football has made absolutely NO attempt over the years to improve the set up. We have plastic pitches, unfinished stadia, ignorance of fan culture, embedded bitterness and general laziness by the authorities. Scottish football is only getting what it deserves after years and years of incompetence and mis-management. They thought they could sit back, let things continue to go downhill - yet expect a bumper tv deal ?? Their arrogance is astounding. correct. If the energy used to attack us was used positively to improve the overall package we would all be a lot better off . When the product improves .the TV investment goes up exponentially. then the product improves again. There was a marked decline in over all quality when setanta went bust .and out tv deal went with it .All of a sudden the lower leagues were more appealing financially to players so they left . The year after the setanta collapse over 70 players left the SPL for lower English league teams .only to be replaced by players at a level below what had left Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoodyBlue1872 3,078 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, magic8ball said: correct. If the energy used to attack us was used positively to improve the overall package we would all be a lot better off . When the product improves .the TV investment goes up exponentially. then the product improves again. There was a marked decline in over all quality when setanta went bust .and out tv deal went with it .All of a sudden the lower leagues were more appealing financially to players so they left . The year after the setanta collapse over 70 players left the SPL for lower English league teams .only to be replaced by players at a level below what had left Spot on mate. magic8ball 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,348 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Every Rangers and celtic away game, the 4 Hibs/Hearts games and 6 others Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoodyBlue1872 3,078 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I also think this rule about limiting our home games is pretty poor. Every time we play Hearts, Aberdeen & Hibs it should be televised. These along with the games against the filth are the showcase games for our league but half of them don't even get shown. Recently we had Hearts at home, with no live tv coverage, whereas shortly after that we had us away at Hamilton on a plastic pitch with an empty end (sometimes has a double decker bus behind it) and a 'stand' which is no more than a glorified gazebo. We really don't help ourselves to promote and showcase the game in Scotland. 50,000 at a rocking Ibrox against the team at the top or an away game on a plastic pitch at Hamilton in an unfinished 'stadium' in front of about 4,000. Madness. plumbGER and docspiderman 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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