eosmhdo 1,879 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 It’s bad enough having signed players who can’t cut the mustard at our club but the loan players just don’t look interested in progressing the club imo. Get them back to their parent clubs and dig deep in January Dave. It was supposed to be a quiet January but I can’t see that now. The loanees wages will allow us to get players in if funds are tight, it’s the only way. Some of these guys are stealing a salary imo. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,840 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 We might be paying none of their wage or all of it so we don't actually know how much they are costing us Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eosmhdo 1,879 Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: We might be paying none of their wage or all of it so we don't actually know how much they are costing us I can’t believe we are not picking up some of their wages mate, so it would free up some dough. Even if it’s not financial gains for us at least we would have players who wanted to benefit the club going forward. These guys don’t seem to be that bothered imo. CoopsLaud 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,840 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Just now, eosmhdo said: I can’t believe we are not picking up some of their wages mate, so it would free up some dough. Even if it’s not financial gains for us at least we would have players who wanted to benefit the club going forward. These guys don’t seem to be that bothered imo. Just wish we could go.out and spunk.exactly what's needed but sadly that looks a while away sausagetrunks 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brackley Bluenose 4,479 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 The loan player model isn’t really working for us at all. HG5, WATPWATP and Hutton2008 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steven33jackie 1,920 Posted December 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2018 This where playing Worral baffles me. Katic had a good start and then out of nowhere was dropped against Villarreal I think he has had one start since then and was hooked at halftime. Now going by the performance of Worral today and previous games I don't for a second believe that Worral is a better option than Katic . So why then sign a player for 1.5 million on a four year contract and then play a bang average loanee before him. Escobar, VladimirWeiss69, LiverpoolBlue and 14 others 17 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,832 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Who was the last successful loanee? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbscotty12 3,560 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Just now, bluenoz said: Who was the last successful loanee? Steven davis Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Harsh on kent, before injury he was playing well, ojaria has his moments, the rest meh, Marky. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Geezer 28 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 If we keep playing Loanees ahead of our own signings what does that say to our players.. Your not good enough , great for confidence eh. Does Worrall deserve a place in the team ? Mind you Goldson is becoming a disaster at CH £3M money wasted Kenny Miller put the frightners on both of them Katic should start every game from now on. Ejaria should be binned fancy dan type player...... Coulibaly what is he all about ............. Ryan jack is too bloody slow (another booking today would Docherty be a better bet at least he has pace and energy I was a fan of Lafferty but what is he bringing to the party Shagger was doing is nut in goal at what was happening in front of him. After Wednesday I thought that they might up their game and put some bloody effort in. but Fuck all happened against 10 men what a joke I fear a doing on Thursday, then we have the Tims on the 29th December to look forward to........................... WATPWATP 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Worrall, Coulibaly and Ejaria can go in January. WATPWATP 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
five stars 1,621 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Kents been the only one that looks good enough. True Hair Bear, Weird_Beard and WATPWATP 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I dont think the loan players system will go - or needs to go. But you can't build a winning team around loan players. They should augment a squad not form the basis of it. And i think we are starting to see that as Coulibaly, Ejaria and Worral have all fell away - significantly in some cases Bears r us and SeparateEntityMyArse 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,468 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Worall isn't that bad Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutton2008 646 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Brackley Bluenose said: The loan player model isn’t really working for us at all. Agreed. We are probably suppressing owned potential trying (and failing) other teams youngsters. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutton2008 646 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Just now, ForeverAndEver said: Worall isn't that bad Shouldn’t start. Should play when Katic/Goldson are needing rested or injured Weird_Beard 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I'll pay their bus fares back doon sooth. HG5 and 2nd Flute 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Hurlock Loyal 12,133 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Loan players have been poor value for us since we got back up, a simple scale of false economics really - when they are required to perform April/May loanees heads are with going back to the parent club in June or getting a deal. Hence, they will pull out of challenges and not push themselves, as they are worried about doing an injury for a club that they will not be playing for in the following season. The sooner we do away with them, and start bringing up the youth players within the set up the better. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cushynumber 25,178 Posted December 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2018 if it wasn't for the loan players we wouldn't be in Europe right now. cstamomusa, Weird_Beard, broomloanjamie and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Hurlock Loyal 12,133 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Just now, cushynumber said: if it wasn't for the loan players we wouldn't be in Europe right now. I guess there is that, but the early season spurt that you get with them doesn't last beyond February for my opinion above. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Terry Hurlock Loyal said: I guess there is that, but the early season spurt that you get with them doesn't last beyond February for my opinion above. I agree with that. But they helped bring in circa £15M. Not a bad return. Terry Hurlock Loyal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,468 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, cushynumber said: if it wasn't for the loan players we wouldn't be in Europe right now. It was down to McGregor not long ago HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Worrall is awful and Ejaria in the Spfl is also awful we need to stop playing these players and dump them in January. These players are struggling against Bottom club Dundee. Weird_Beard and Terry Hurlock Loyal 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronniemca 479 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, cushynumber said: I dont think the loan players system will go - or needs to go. But you can't build a winning team around loan players. They should augment a squad not form the basis of it. And i think we are starting to see that as Coulibaly, Ejaria and Worral have all fell away - significantly in some cases Loan players are fine but in our case they need to be players who have experience and who are needing game time.Bringing in young guys who are really just apprentices is no good at a club where pressures are intense. BlackpoolBear1952 and BlueSuedeSambas 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,112 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 54 minutes ago, cushynumber said: I agree with that. But they helped bring in circa £15M. Not a bad return. 4 wins in 11 suggests they’re resting on their laurels a bit too much. Terry Hurlock Loyal, Weird_Beard and Blue Avenger 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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