With Heart and Hand 8,949 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, BlueMe said: Probably not. neither were any of those who jumped ship in 2012 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMe 25,327 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, With Heart and Hand said: neither were any of those who jumped ship in 2012 As i said earlier, being a fan means something completely different to a proffesional footballer. Blumhoilann and Bigsasasfloppyhair 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost 431 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 hours ago, With Heart and Hand said: So it was fine to call them rats until the day they came crawling back? Wouldn't surprise me if we sell Naismith next I dont want them to say a thing. I want them to come and keep their mouth shut and play well, maybe they'll redeem themselves like McGregor maybe has, if not then i want them to do their job then leave so we never have to think about them again. I’ve no idea how this relates to my post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hume 13,048 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 6 hours ago, plumbGER said: Mate, You do realise that I brought my own work circumstances into it to counter the old argument about them having lifestyles to uphold and bills to pay because the more they earn the more they spend etc. My tongue was firmly lodged in my cheek and I'm surprised at the people who backed the players to go on ahead and leave as it's a short career etc. Sorry mate I was replying to no one in particular .... my post was more generic than specific .... I actually only read your post after you quoted me twice with specific sentences from my overall post. plumbGER 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heshootshescores 1,904 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Welcome home Steven. Spoiler Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 13 hours ago, Bobby Hume said: Sorry mate I was replying to no one in particular .... my post was more generic than specific .... I actually only read your post after you quoted me twice with specific sentences from my overall post. Yeah mate I knew that but just wanted to clarify my posts with you. You know fine well what I'm like anyway so I didn't expect you to take them too seriously Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEE 4,880 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Captain Invisible. Escobar 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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With Heart and Hand 8,949 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 19 hours ago, The Ghost said: I’ve no idea how this relates to my post. no one complained at folk calling them rats or traitors until we decided to sign them again ForeverAndEver 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theweebluenose 4,332 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I'd prefer he kept quiet rather than come out with pish like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanjo 26,328 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 As some here have said, I was not too fussed either way when he signed... in fact I was a warming to it. That interview has really not done him any favours though and it actually reminds me of how angry I was in 2012 when he was one of the first to bail out on us. If he'd done that interview and said something along the lines of "I understand the fans frustrations and I apologise" then fine but that there was nonsense. In any case he is back now and if he takes us to 55 then fine but the the painful memories will never leave me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ready1873 3,885 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 He seems to lack the passion and enthusiasm of shagger and Lafferty which isn't endearing either. Better prove himself and help us lift the title. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamess 3,422 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Time to move on and see if he performs on the pitch. Nothing else matters now. ianferguson 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Never judge a man till you've walked a mile in his shoes. Davis didn't create the shitstorm, he was a victim of it. Professional footballers will always look after themselves and very few would have sacrificed their careers if put in that situation. Yeah we'd all like to think in that situation we'd have stood by the club but sadly the reality is players think like players and fans think like fans. Bob Malcolm and wee Novo are testement to what can happen if you make bad choices and Lee Wallace sacrificed his international career and never reached his true potential. Blue Avenger and Bigsasasfloppyhair 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost 431 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 19 hours ago, With Heart and Hand said: no one complained at folk calling them rats or traitors until we decided to sign them again Well I did. Those that left were called rats while those that stayed were called wage thieves. Players were in a lose-lose situation. It was ridiculous and unfair and some of those who stayed must have regretted it at times. If I was at the peak of my career and suddenly found myself with a club with an uncertain future, ending up in the lowest league, facing wage cuts, no international recognition and being spoken about as if I was somebody’s personal property then I think I would have put myself, my family and my career first and, going by the reaction by a number of fans to those who left or stayed, probably wouldn’t have looked back. If the club are then foolish enough to chase after former players six years later when they are clearly on the decline, with some who weren’t even good enough first time round, while throwing piles of cash at them then some are clearly going to pander to the more easily swayed contingent of the support and trot out the usual soundbites and await the predictable cries of “bring him home” while waiting for the cheque to clear. slimjim1690 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackAlex93 11,264 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, The Ghost said: Well I did. Those that left were called rats while those that stayed were called wage thieves. Players were in a lose-lose situation. It was ridiculous and unfair and some of those who stayed must have regretted it at times. If I was at the peak of my career and suddenly found myself with a club with an uncertain future, ending up in the lowest league, facing wage cuts, no international recognition and being spoken about as if I was somebody’s personal property then I think I would have put myself, my family and my career first and, going by the reaction by a number of fans to those who left or stayed, probably wouldn’t have looked back. If the club are then foolish enough to chase after former players six years later when they are clearly on the decline, with some who weren’t even good enough first time round, while throwing piles of cash at them then some are clearly going to pander to the more easily swayed contingent of the support and trot out the usual soundbites and await the predictable cries of “bring him home” while waiting for the cheque to clear. This. Put yourself in the players shoes and then think what you'd do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,485 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 36 minutes ago, BigJack1690 said: This. Put yourself in the players shoes and then think what you'd do. Try my best to help Rangers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 16 hours ago, ready1873 said: He seems to lack the passion and enthusiasm of shagger and Lafferty which isn't endearing either. Better prove himself and help us lift the title. Nice like count mate When you hear McGregor interviewed he doesn't sound enthusiastic or passionate imo. It's what they do on the pitch that counts tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 hours ago, ForeverAndEver said: Try my best to help Rangers Admirable and naive in equal measures. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 On 11/01/2019 at 18:13, BlueMe said: Do you think we would've received a higher fee than £800k for Davis when he's playing in the bottom tier of Scottish football for a team not only desperate to sell, but needing to sell? We allegedly got £300k from Stoke for Edu, who was a 26 year old international. Exactly mate, if you have your eye on an appliance and the shop goes into admin you would wait to see how cheap you could get it knowing it had to go anyway. BlueMe 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,532 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, plumbGER said: Exactly mate, if you have your eye on an appliance and the shop goes into admin you would wait to see how cheap you could get it knowing it had to go anyway. One of your better analogies there Plumb 👍 plumbGER 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: One of your better analogies there Plumb 👍 Another thing is that "we" wouldn't have received a fee, Charles Green and co would've. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMe 25,327 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, plumbGER said: Exactly mate, if you have your eye on an appliance and the shop goes into admin you would wait to see how cheap you could get it knowing it had to go anyway. Edu is considered a hero for staying, even though he probably cost the club more because he did stay. Bigsasasfloppyhair 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 3 hours ago, ForeverAndEver said: Try my best to help Rangers They did. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, BlueMe said: Edu is considered a hero for staying, even though he probably cost the club more because he did stay. 100% correct. If the players decided to tupe over and insist on their contracts being met we would have been bust within months. BlueMe 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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