stewaj3 1,444 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: Gerrard showed his naive side by setting us up differently to accommodate two players who have hardly kicked a ball all season it affected our whole team tonight I hope he fucking realises what he did me, you and every other cunt could have picked the starting 11 - it’s naive I agree... In his defence... If he stuck with the team/system and we lost we'd criticise him for not starting Defoe/Davis. We will never know, but we were very poor today and he has to hold his hands up for that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, King Jela said: How many fucking times does he need to tinker with the formation before he clicks on? Fucking absolute amateur stuff. I still love the guy but right now I’m fucking seething with him. Rotating during the European run was justified up to a point but it looks like he can't make his mind up on his best 11. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAvenger 10,203 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Davis and Defoe should never have started tonight. And not at the fuckin weekend either against Livingston. We have fucked it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,362 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, wullyRFC said: Waiting till they scored to change it shows hes got alot to learn Back to the start of the season 15 minutes ago, WATP-FOREVER said: Worrall threw the game. Wasn’t the only one 1 minute ago, hammer93 said: Well he scored the winner...something he really shouldn't be doing if he is pish!!! Keeper fucked it big time Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,679 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Laudrup1984 said: I can understand us wanting to get Defoe and Davis up to speed as soon as possible. They will only get fitter the more the play. For 20 minutes is was really comfortable and we could have been out of sight. If Worrall doesn't do that we probably win and everything is perfect. 3 points, Defoe scores, fitness in the bank and we also show we can play a different formation. Suddenly though an inexplicable mistake cost us. It shouldn't have but it did. We still had 70 minutes to rectify it however we just got worse and got what we deserved. For 70 minutes we just weren't good enough. That's not good enough. Gerrard was poor. The players were poor. Gutting. We don't have time to wait for two over the hill players to get up to speed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBufalo20 7,875 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Said in the official match thread the other day that we shouldn’t change to a 442 to accommodate Defoe and sadly been proved right. Think Defoe is a terrific signing and ideal to come on for Morelos and give him a rest or at least play the 2 of them at Ibrox. To change formation and tactics so drastically for one of the toughest away games is just really poor management. The fact Halliday was left back as well isn’t helping. That’s not a criticism of him but if you’re playing a narrow midfield you need an athletic full back and that’s clearly not him. Too many of our away results are down to obvious bad management decisions and that’s a huge concern. In walter we trust 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,520 Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 Just now, stewaj3 said: I agree... In his defence... If he stuck with the team/system and we lost we'd criticise him for not starting Defoe/Davis. We will never know, but we were very poor today and he has to hold his hands up for that Doubt we’d have lost tbh. I wasn’t expecting Defoe to start stewaj3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Blinded by the names when he had no need to change the team that beat the scum. That said to begin with it worked we could’ve been 2-0 and game over, instead we gift a goal and let them go back to their game plan of sitting in and attacking on the break. Then McGregor has a howler from a 25 yard average strike Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastEnclosureBear 2,918 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 It never worked on Sunday against Helsinki in the first half that formation, no idea why they’ve used it on a artificial surface against a well drilled Kilmarnock team. We looked lost, players went missing. Just fucking pish tbh If we go with the same team against Livingston, I’ll probably greet. BlueAvenger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brackley Bluenose 4,479 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, sandyinroyalblue said: It's a poor poor league this year and it might be out best chance to stop the tarriers doing 10 in a row and we just keeping making the same mistakes in terms of not identifying our best 11 and we're at the end of January,Gerrard needs to up his game and learn before it's too late. That is absolute bollocks, on the contrary it’s the best league competition the top flight in Scotland has seen in over 25 years. Laudrupsleftfoot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,141 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, hammer93 said: Well he scored the winner...something he really shouldn't be doing if he is pish!!! No massive task scoring against that back line fucking abysmal if I was Katic I’d be putting a transfer request in with that pair keeping me out True Hair Bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Just now, Courtyard Bear said: Blinded by the names when he had no need to change the team that beat the scum. That said to begin with it worked we could’ve been 2-0 and game over, instead we gift a goal and let them go back to their game plan of sitting in and attacking on the break. Then McGregor has a howler from a 25 yard average strike CB dress it up how you like but the managers fuck ups were to blame for that shambles tonight....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
To Be A Ranger 4,032 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Gerrard always changes things for away games and we almost always struggle to win them. You'd think he'd have a better idea of what to do by now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geronimoo 1,474 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Back to the same shit but with a few new faces. We are far to slow at getting forward and the CB seem to think they can play tiki taka, instead they are just giving the opposition the time to get their shape. We lack any sense of urgency and players who know how to read a game and make things happen, we crunched 2 players in and Gerrard need to carry the blame there. I remember years ago we were playing piss poor but that season Dado Prso stood up and carried us at times, we don't have a player who can do this and have a pitch full of followers with no leader, was hoping Davis would be that leader but thinking back he was in the team Prso carried. Had Worral played in teams gone by he would have got knocked out for that mistake. Could you imagine what that dressing room would have been like if Brown, Iain Ferguson or Souness had been there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
murzo 7,446 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, The Godfather said: His league record is pretty pish The away form this season is the worst I can remember as a Rangers fan. It’s not acceptable and if he isn’t careful he will be punted because he clearly isn’t learning his lesson. A win against them means fuck all when you throw away the next game and lose all advantage. Aberdeen, Motherwell, Dundee, hibs draws. Livi , killie, taigs defeats. Only conciliation and what’s keeping us in it at all is the there away record is worse The Godfather 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 10,774 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, TMB said: I don't mind Davis starting ahead of McCrorie. We should be playing with one CDM and two guys capable of creating something either side. Many have forgotten this, but a lack of creativity from central midfield has been a major thorn in our side this season. The big mistake was moving away from our 4-3-3 counter pressing system altogether to shoehorn in Defoe. We had no width especially down that left side. Instead of Candeias pressing and chasing everything down we have Defoe just standing in the box. Morelos was dropping ridiculously deep instead of leading the line. It didn't work. I never believed Defoe and Morelos would play as part of the same team. No way we would go 4-4-2, or try the 3-5-2, I was sure we would stick with the 4-3-3 and rotate between Morelos or Defoe. I'm really concerned we'll play Defoe all the time now, he'll become a luxury, and he'll do more harm than good. I don't disagree with anything but the bit I've highlighted in bold. Chase what down? Taylor or Jones were barely ever on the ball down our right side, we had most of the ball all match. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,595 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 We battered the beasts by playing 4-3-3 and dominating the midfield, so why fucking change it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueshoff 11,750 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, hammer93 said: We could make you the manager.....after all you did tell us all earlier tonight that we need not worry about Jordan Jones as he is absolute pish? Like defoe he did fuck all apart from score one goal. Fortunately for jj his side scoed more than Rangers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, bluenoz said: We don't have time to wait for two over the hill players to get up to speed. Aye we do, the team before the winter break was right in a league battle there was no need to play Defoe and Davis so quick especially away to Killie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewaj3 1,444 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, KeyserSoze said: Doubt we’d have lost tbh. I wasn’t expecting Defoe to start I didn't expect him to start, I would have stuck with the same formation too. Think candeias and mccrorie will be massively disappointed to be dropped. As for would we have lost... I don't know.. I'd like to think not but we'll never know Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sket 13,610 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Grounding day. Why are people still surprised? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie0202 12,219 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I agree to a certain extent. It's not just accomodating 2 new players. It's the fact the 2 players haven't had a lot of game time recently and should have been broke in gradually. Either way if Worrall doesn't fuck up in the first half I believe we win the game and Gerrard gets away with his team selection. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Just now, Blueshoff said: Like defoe he did fuck all apart from score one goal. Fortunately for jj his side scoed more than Rangers. Amazed at the amount on here thinking a 36 year old striker is going to run amok up here......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,056 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 This place is unreal, for 20mins tonight we totally controlled the game, i doubt at that point anyone was questioning the starting line up or formation....the facts are that fucking Worrall made an absolute pigs arse of it to let Killie back into the game, from that moment on Killie started playing a higher press on us which totally changed the way the game was being played, Gerrards Naivety is for not changing it a half time, that is what cost us, not the team he started with. Vision 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
butthole 149 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Think the OP is bang on. Players shoe horned in. It nullified our two most threatening players in Morelos and Kent which was plain to see from early on. I don't blame Gerrard for trying it but he should have changed things in the first half. The two at the back were just as shite. Katic before Worral all day long. Lessons have to be learned. KeyserSoze 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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